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Post by DentySCFC on Jul 21, 2014 18:52:41 GMT
Right then. Who's on for Hull away? Leave ya cans of coke by the bins before you get on. We wouldn't want you enjoying yourselves. Shhhhh, no talking.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 18:52:45 GMT
I agree. The grant is for £200k over 19 games that's around a £1 saving a ticket for 1000 people. Not exactly going to get extra people thinking Jesus that's a bargain. But if 200 + fans don't need to pay travel costs that will bring in more travelling fans surely Is there any evidence to suggest that more people attended last season due to free transport? Absolutely not. The numbers obviously went down. Fans voted with their feet to show their disgust at free travel.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 21, 2014 18:54:05 GMT
Is there any evidence to suggest that more people attended last season due to free transport? Absolutely not. The numbers obviously went down. Fans voted with their feet to show their disgust at free travel. You are a card. Well something like that anyway.
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Post by foster on Jul 21, 2014 18:54:34 GMT
What's to stop the club subsidising tickets as well during the season?
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Post by robinreliant on Jul 21, 2014 18:56:46 GMT
Great gesture by the club again BUT i would have preferred money off tickets mesen. It's got b@gger all to do with the club, except to administer the funds; it's ringfenced money allocated by the Premier League. The club has (again) unilaterally decided to pay it directly to Leon's coaches to provide "free" away travel for the sheep that use this service. Make no mistake: it's NOT a generous gesture by the club, it's a requirement of the Premier League to allocate these funds (if claimed). Perhaps a discounted away ticket would have been a more fair and equitable way of benefitting all Stoke fans , who travel away , but while the club pays lip service to the Supporters' Council NOTHING will change.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 21, 2014 18:59:09 GMT
Great gesture by the club again BUT i would have preferred money off tickets mesen. It's got b@gger all to do with the club, except to administer the funds; it's ringfenced money allocated by the Premier League. The club has (again) unilaterally decided to pay it directly to Leon's coaches to provide "free" away travel for the sheep that use this service. Make no mistake: it's NOT a generous gesture by the club, it's a requirement of the Premier League to allocate these funds (if claimed). Perhaps a discounted away ticket would have been a more fair and equitable way of benefitting all Stoke fans , who travel away , but while the club pays lip service to the Supporters' Council NOTHING will change. It goes above and beyond what any other club in the league do.
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 21, 2014 19:00:08 GMT
I agree. The grant is for £200k over 19 games that's around a £1 saving a ticket for 1000 people. Not exactly going to get extra people thinking Jesus that's a bargain. But if 200 + fans don't need to pay travel costs that will bring in more travelling fans surely Is there any evidence to suggest that more people attended last season due to free transport? There was a 26% increase in sales of away tickets, whether that was due to us actually playing to win away from home for a change or down to away travel we will never know, but it is a positive move
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Post by Trouserdog on Jul 21, 2014 19:02:13 GMT
Only in Stoke-on-Trent could you offer people something for free and instantly they start pissing and moaning about it.
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Post by stokecity4eva on Jul 21, 2014 19:02:41 GMT
I agree. The grant is for £200k over 19 games that's around a £1 saving a ticket for 1000 people. Not exactly going to get extra people thinking Jesus that's a bargain. But if 200 + fans don't need to pay travel costs that will bring in more travelling fans surely Is there any evidence to suggest that more people attended last season due to free transport? Attendances for away games saw an average increase of over 26% for like for like matches, with a record amount of supporters using the official coaches as their means of travelling to Stoke City away games last term. Read more at www.stokecityfc.com/news/article/club-to-continue-free-away-travel-offer-for-201415new-component-1772960.aspx#HBILxcwj1w0WUrjd.99Official site says attendance went up by just over a quarter
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 21, 2014 19:04:18 GMT
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Post by robinreliant on Jul 21, 2014 19:04:56 GMT
Definitely the right thing to do, much better than a couple of quid of the odd ticket now and then. I agree. The grant is for £200k over 19 games that's around a £1 saving a ticket for 1000 people. Not exactly going to get extra people thinking Jesus that's a bargain. But if 200 + fans don't need to pay travel costs that will bring in more travelling fans surely If your numbers are correct, £200K divided by 19 away games equals £10.5K per game; that's £10.50 per 1000 people NOT £1 per 1000 ! For £10.50 you can get a pie, a pint and a bj in Hull !
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Post by werrington on Jul 21, 2014 19:09:26 GMT
That photo was of the travelling fans watching a season review DVD from.the 2012/2013 season mate ( smiley )
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 19:09:42 GMT
The club will never do enough for some fans. The price of football is undoubtedly too high, especially the clubs that charge £50 or £60 for a matchday ticket. It's fair to say our club does more than most though.
We already have one of the cheapest Season Tickets around, at a cost that has been frozen for half a dozen years or so. My ticket in the Boothen End works out at around £18 a match as an average over the season. It'd probably cost me more than that if I rockeed up at Vale Park for a one-off match on a Saturday afternoon (and contrary to what some might believe on here, even I'm not that much of a daft cunt to do that.)
This free travel initiative is another great step and it can only help boost numbers for our away games, which can only be a good thing.
Can the club do more? Of course they could, there will always be ways they can help us out further but they already do more than most, and we're pretty lucky in that aspect.
One day when Coates and his family don't own the club things could dramatically change and some might then realise just how good we've got things right now.
Cheap home tickets, options to spread the cost out (which applies to ST and shirts), free away travel (which can a big saving for the trips to London) - that's a pretty good showing from the club if you ask me.
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 21, 2014 19:14:48 GMT
I agree. The grant is for £200k over 19 games that's around a £1 saving a ticket for 1000 people. Not exactly going to get extra people thinking Jesus that's a bargain. But if 200 + fans don't need to pay travel costs that will bring in more travelling fans surely If your numbers are correct, £200K divided by 19 away games equals £10.5K per game; that's £10.50 per 1000 people NOT £1 per 1000 ! For £10.50 you can get a pie, a pint and a bj in Hull ! Your figures are right having a bad day lol But point still stands would we get an extra 200+ people going to the match by saving £10 when they still have the travel expenses.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Jul 21, 2014 19:29:32 GMT
It's a great initiative by the club. If people want to waste £30-40 on the train just because they can't go to the match without sinking 5 pints, let them. Some of us actually can hold a civilised conversation whilst traveling to the football without being tanked up on ale and shouting at the top of our voices.
Hopefully this will encourage more families/younger supporters to attend away games.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 21, 2014 19:33:08 GMT
It's a great initiative by the club. If people want to waste £30-40 on the train just because they can't go to the match without sinking 5 pints, let them. Some of us actually can hold a civilised conversation whilst traveling to the football without being tanked up on ale and shouting at the top of our voices. Hopefully this will encourage more boring fuckers to attend away games. Edited for ya. what a great atmosphere these new fans create. Zzzzzz
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 19:35:48 GMT
I think we should get the supporters council involved: - * Away ticket prices capped at £5 * £5 price to include free pie and 5 drinks * Free travel to all away games, including collection from house and return to doorstep * Free alcohol and food on executive coach * Jennifer Anniston on bus for blowies (Brad Pitt for the ladies) * Guaranteed 3 points from the match, or a full ticket refund * Personal masseuse for each fan behind seat in stadium * Jennifer Anniston back for half time activities * Immediate refreshments at half time without any queueing whatsoever (or a full ticket refund) * The club takes responsibility to contact all fans' place of work to arrange time off to allow access to ALL games * The club guarantees the sun will always be out on matchday Some fucker draw up the petition, lets get some bastarding signatures on board and lets sort this fucking disgrace of a situation out, once and for all. You forgot being dropped off in Stoke, Anniston providing activities off the coach, heated seat in the pub of your choice, drinks all night and a nice curry to top it all off. I'll stop at Scholesy or Carto tucking me up in bed though.
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Post by werrington on Jul 21, 2014 19:37:04 GMT
It's a great initiative by the club. If people want to waste £30-40 on the train just because they can't go to the match without sinking 5 pints, let them. Some of us actually can hold a civilised conversation whilst traveling to the football without being tanked up on ale and shouting at the top of our voices. Hopefully this will encourage more families/younger supporters to attend away games. That's a shocking nay appalling post fortress Words actually fail me tbh
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jul 21, 2014 19:39:24 GMT
Moan moan moan fucking moan.
Baaa
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Post by robinreliant on Jul 21, 2014 19:44:52 GMT
As an interesting aside, if you google (other search engines are also available) £200,000 Premier League Fans Fund, you get some other angles on this subject.
Apparently Aston Villa applied the funds to mixed incentives, as varied as £300 subsidies to the Lions charity in order to encourage the less fortunate to attend away games. They also only provided free travel to 10 away games, choosing to distribute the funds in a broader spectrum of incentives to benefit more supporters.
One Premier League club blew the lot on refurbishing its away end: an act with universal benefit to every visiting supporter !
We all have an opinion on this, even if it's "I don't give a sh!t how the cash is spent" but mine is that we need to consider different incentives that bring benefits to more than the elderly coach-dwelling sheep on coach one !
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Post by ratters on Jul 21, 2014 19:53:59 GMT
Well im more than likely to now attend most games now, rather than have to pick and choose. Saves £20 a pop for each game, when I would have gone on the coaches anyway, as driving to most games on my own is not beneficial. Call it selfish on my part but it defo benefits me, as they're not gonna knock £15/£20 off every ticket for every away game.
Ironically im driving to hull as im taking a hull mate of mine
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jul 21, 2014 20:02:55 GMT
I agree. The grant is for £200k over 19 games that's around a £1 saving a ticket for 1000 people. Not exactly going to get extra people thinking Jesus that's a bargain. But if 200 + fans don't need to pay travel costs that will bring in more travelling fans surely If your numbers are correct, £200K divided by 19 away games equals £10.5K per game; that's £10.50 per 1000 people NOT £1 per 1000 ! For £10.50 you can get a pie, a pint and a bj in Hull ! Marc's numbers are correct, but as you say, his maths was wrong It is not a grant as such, but an agreement by all PL clubs to spend £200k per season on initiatives which help away supporters. I would prefer the money to be used to reduce ticket prices, simply because that helps all supporters, including exiles and those who, for whatever reason, don't want to travel by coach. That said, it's much better than, say, tarting up the away concourse, which was the kind of thing some clubs did. In fact, there is good reason to doubt whether some clubs spent the full amount anyway. So I would give the club a B rather than an A, but some others might a C,D or E . All this of course is set in the context of all PL clubs having eye-wateringly huge amounts of money as a result of the current media rights deal, which of course partly results from the attraction of the atmosphere, which is greatly helped by the away fans, so it makes business sense to tackle the falling levels of away support which the PL has experienced. The next steps should be the abolition of price categorisation (a move which Stoke City don't support) and a rule requiring away fans to be pitchside to end being put up in the gods, as at Newcastle and Sunderland and also being considered by other clubs.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 21, 2014 20:05:24 GMT
As an interesting aside, if you google (other search engines are also available) £200,000 Premier League Fans Fund, you get some other angles on this subject. Apparently Aston Villa applied the funds to mixed incentives, as varied as £300 subsidies to the Loins charity in order to encourage the less fortunate to attend away games. They also only provided free travel to 10 away games, choosing to distribute the funds in a broader spectrum of incentives to benefit more supporters. One Premier League club blew the lot on refurbishing its away end: an act with universal benefit to every visiting supporter ! We all have an opinion on this, even if it's "I don't give a sh!t how the cash is spent" but mine is that we need to con sider different incentives that bring benefits to mire than the elderly coach-dwelling sheep on coach one ! A bit disrespectful to call a fellow fan a sheep, because of the mode of transport he/she chooses.Not that I have a problem with our ovine friends.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 20:07:38 GMT
If your numbers are correct, £200K divided by 19 away games equals £10.5K per game; that's £10.50 per 1000 people NOT £1 per 1000 ! For £10.50 you can get a pie, a pint and a bj in Hull ! Marc's numbers are correct, but as you say, his maths was wrong It is not a grant as such, but an agreement by all PL clubs to spend £200k per season on initiatives which help away supporters. I would prefer the money to be used to reduce ticket prices, simply because that helps all supporters, including exiles and those who, for whatever reason, don't want to travel by coach. That said, it's much better than, say, tarting up the away concourse, which was the kind of thing some clubs did. In fact, there is good reason to doubt whether some clubs spent the full amount anyway. So I would give the club a B rather than an A, but some others might a C,D or E . All this of course is set in the context of all PL clubs having eye-wateringly huge amounts of money as a result of the current media rights deal, which of course partly results from the attraction of the atmosphere, which is greatly helped by the away fans, so it makes business sense to tackle the falling levels of away support which the PL has experienced. The next steps should be the abolition of price categorisation (a move which Stoke City don't support) and a rule requiring away fans to be pitchside to end being put up in the gods, as at Newcastle and Sunderland and also being considered by other clubs. Why don't Stoke support the removal of categorisation?
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Post by joedog on Jul 21, 2014 20:24:34 GMT
Just 2 quick ones. If the club are given this money for the fans, surely the fans should choose ? Also if fans on the supporters commity who go to the meetings use the free travel, what chance had the cheaper ticket argument ever have ! I'll try and get official figures to whether our away support increased last season?
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Post by sportsman on Jul 21, 2014 20:26:31 GMT
Whydelilah.
That won't get passed. You've got Jennifer Aniston before and at half time but nothing to pick us up after defeat on the way back.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 21, 2014 20:47:32 GMT
Is that what happens when you start talking
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Post by joedog on Jul 21, 2014 20:52:29 GMT
Just 2 quick ones. If the club are given this money for the fans, surely the fans should choose ? Also if fans on the supporters commity who go to the meetings use the free travel, what chance had the cheaper ticket argument ever have ! I'll try and get official figures to whether our away support increased last season?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 21, 2014 21:03:58 GMT
Marc's numbers are correct, but as you say, his maths was wrong It is not a grant as such, but an agreement by all PL clubs to spend £200k per season on initiatives which help away supporters. I would prefer the money to be used to reduce ticket prices, simply because that helps all supporters, including exiles and those who, for whatever reason, don't want to travel by coach. That said, it's much better than, say, tarting up the away concourse, which was the kind of thing some clubs did. In fact, there is good reason to doubt whether some clubs spent the full amount anyway. So I would give the club a B rather than an A, but some others might a C,D or E . All this of course is set in the context of all PL clubs having eye-wateringly huge amounts of money as a result of the current media rights deal, which of course partly results from the attraction of the atmosphere, which is greatly helped by the away fans, so it makes business sense to tackle the falling levels of away support which the PL has experienced. The next steps should be the abolition of price categorisation (a move which Stoke City don't support) and a rule requiring away fans to be pitchside to end being put up in the gods, as at Newcastle and Sunderland and also being considered by other clubs. Why don't Stoke support the removal of categorisation?
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 21, 2014 21:34:44 GMT
Cracking. £20 saved per game. People moan at the dead atmos and that you can't drink, but I couldn't give two shits. Same here. Well done Stoke.
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