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Post by salopstick on Jul 21, 2014 14:09:09 GMT
give the captaincy to gary cahill
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 21, 2014 14:11:18 GMT
Rooney will get it.
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Post by Ayupshag on Jul 21, 2014 14:11:54 GMT
Thank fuck for that. 15 years of doing fuck all for England finally over
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 14:12:30 GMT
Sol Campbell has already renounced his retirement and volunteered for the position!
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Post by salopstick on Jul 21, 2014 14:12:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 14:13:14 GMT
give the captaincy to gary cahill Hope you've got yer tin hat on Salop It's a good job he has retired because that bumbling idiot Hodgson would have just kept picking him,even though he should have been put out to stud 18 months ago. Gerrard has been a superb player but his time had gone a while back now.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 21, 2014 14:13:54 GMT
Yes about 2 years ago!
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Post by southcarolinastokie on Jul 21, 2014 14:13:59 GMT
Fair play to him. Gave his best, sadly couldn't replicate club form on the big stage
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 14:18:23 GMT
give the captaincy to gary cahill Hope you've got yer tin hat on Salop It's a good job he has retired because that bumbling idiot Hodgson would have just kept picking him,even though he should have been put out to stud 18 months ago. Gerrard has been a superb player but his time had gone a while back now. Agree. Except, Gerrard has been studding for a while now. Only problem is he keeps squirting out daughters.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 14:19:49 GMT
Hope you've got yer tin hat on Salop It's a good job he has retired because that bumbling idiot Hodgson would have just kept picking him,even though he should have been put out to stud 18 months ago. Gerrard has been a superb player but his time had gone a while back now. Agree. Except, Gerrard has been studding for a while now. Only problem is he keeps squirting out daughters. "The baby's not yours...the baby's not yours, Steven Gerrard the baby's not yours!"
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Post by kenwyne on Jul 21, 2014 14:22:09 GMT
hope he doesn't slip on his way to the press conference
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 21, 2014 14:29:30 GMT
Sol Campbell has already renounced his retirement and volunteered for the position! If he doesn't get the job he can then rant about the racists in the fa.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 21, 2014 14:30:24 GMT
Thank fuck for that. 15 years of doing fuck all for England finally over Ridiculous post
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Post by salopstick on Jul 21, 2014 14:31:51 GMT
give the captaincy to gary cahill Hope you've got yer tin hat on Salop It's a good job he has retired because that bumbling idiot Hodgson would have just kept picking him,even though he should have been put out to stud 18 months ago. Gerrard has been a superb player but his time had gone a while back now. i dont think strikers should be captains and cahill is a decent defender pretty much guaranteed his place. however my opinion is we should not have a full time captain, give it to the best guy each squad, therefore not guaranteeing anyone a place, too cosy a set up. cahill is the best option. as for gerrard his england career has been wasted for the most. 15 brilliant games, 15 shit games and 85 games where he did nothing as he was shoehorned in to accommodate a frank lampard partnership. gerrard unfortunately should have been frank lampards back up, we were a more balanced midfield with gareth barry in it.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 21, 2014 14:35:46 GMT
Bye Stevie. Don't let the door hit you on the way out lad.
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Post by superscfc on Jul 21, 2014 14:44:18 GMT
I have always rated Lampard over Gerrard and have found that Steven Gerrard is probably the most overrated english footballer along with Wayne Rooney in the past 5 -10 years, outstanding for Liverpool for a good time but he's not been that player for a number of years
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Jul 21, 2014 14:50:03 GMT
Fair play to Steven Gerrard, he has taken being a Jack of all Trades to the next level.
All that talent, "so good, he can play anywhere" and he did, because he never became the sort of player you could build a team around.
Too wrapped up in impacting the game himself to see the bigger picture. He finally sacrificed himself last season in a Liverpool shirt, cut out the hollywood passes and the storming forwards, no coincidence it was their best season in years.
If he'd dedicated himself to that position who knows what he might have done for England. As it is, he was just.......pffffft.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 21, 2014 15:07:35 GMT
Fair play to Steven Gerrard, he has taken being a Jack of all Trades to the next level. All that talent, "so good, he can play anywhere" and he did, because he never became the sort of player you could build a team around. Too wrapped up in impacting the game himself to see the bigger picture. He finally sacrificed himself last season in a Liverpool shirt, cut out the hollywood passes and the storming forwards, no coincidence it was their best season in years. If he'd dedicated himself to that position who knows what he might have done for England. As it is, he was just.......pffffft. I'll never forget his disgustingly selfish performance against Germany in World Cup 2010. The one where he was asked to play on the left hand side, spent the entire game coming into the middle spraying ridiculous hollywood passes all over the place, none of which actually came off and was arguably the worst player in the team closely followed by Barry. He can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by luke45 on Jul 21, 2014 15:13:22 GMT
It's easy for people to criticize Steven Gerrard because England failed to reach any major finals over the 14 years he was involved, but can anybody actually name a more consistent performer for England throughout that time? For me the only person who comes close is Ashley Cole. He may not have been able to replicate his form for Liverpool in an England shirt all of the time, but I don't think his commitment was ever in doubt. He was the last player in that England squad who I regarded as genuine captain material, I don't see any leaders in our national team now.
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Post by thestatusquo on Jul 21, 2014 15:17:47 GMT
He was often guilty of trying to do it all himself. I don't know whether that was because he thought he was better than everyone else or whether he though the others weren't very good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 15:19:58 GMT
It's easy for people to criticize Steven Gerrard because England failed to reach any major finals over the 14 years he was involved, but can anybody actually name a more consistent performer for England throughout that time? For me the only person who comes close is Ashley Cole. He may not have been able to replicate his form for Liverpool in an England shirt all of the time, but I don't think his commitment was ever in doubt. He was the last player in that England squad who I regarded as genuine captain material, I don't see any leaders in our national team now. He's never really done anything for England, he's been a one trick pony for many years who has absolutely no positional sense and lacks any real reading of the game. I also don't get why you think he was a leader or captain material, he's completely silent on the pitch and has no awareness of what's needed at all. Bad player? Of course not but on the national stage you have to offer more than just 40 yard balls into the corner and the odd decent free kick and shot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 15:20:19 GMT
You only have to look at this thread to realise just how shit this messageboard can be. Steven Gerrard from 2002-2008 would've strolled into ANY team in the world. Yes he hasn't been the same player for a few years now, but a declining Gerrard is still better than most players will ever be. He will go down in history (admittedly Liverpool's history) as one of the greatest English players ever. You've gota be a special kind of inbred-fucktard to try to denigrate his career...but then again this is the oatcake and we seem to have more than our fair share of inbred-fucktards.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 15:21:51 GMT
He was often guilty of trying to do it all himself. I don't know whether that was because he thought he was better than everyone else or whether he though the others weren't very good. It's because there was a time when he was not only capable of doing it all himself, but had no option but to do it all himself.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 21, 2014 15:23:43 GMT
It's easy for people to criticize Steven Gerrard because England failed to reach any major finals over the 14 years he was involved, but can anybody actually name a more consistent performer for England throughout that time? For me the only person who comes close is Ashley Cole. He may not have been able to replicate his form for Liverpool in an England shirt all of the time, but I don't think his commitment was ever in doubt. He was the last player in that England squad who I regarded as genuine captain material, I don't see any leaders in our national team now. Luke, don't confuse arrogance with commitment please.
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Post by thestatusquo on Jul 21, 2014 15:24:52 GMT
He was often guilty of trying to do it all himself. I don't know whether that was because he thought he was better than everyone else or whether he though the others weren't very good. It's because there was a time when he was not only capable of doing it all himself, but had no option but to do it all himself. # Could be. A Liverpool supporting mate says he often did it there too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 15:26:37 GMT
He was often guilty of trying to do it all himself. I don't know whether that was because he thought he was better than everyone else or whether he though the others weren't very good. It's because there was a time when he was not only capable of doing it all himself, but had no option but to do it all himself. So far from the truth that this and your previous post is painful to read. Also insults to people instantly shows lack quality argument. Surely you can contribute without doing it?
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Post by mattface on Jul 21, 2014 15:26:58 GMT
For such a focus at club level I am struggling to remember one stand out performance for England.
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Post by Ayupshag on Jul 21, 2014 15:27:49 GMT
Thank fuck for that. 15 years of doing fuck all for England finally over Ridiculous post True tho fella. Name anything he's done that's got us anywhere near winning anything?
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Post by stokeramblers on Jul 21, 2014 15:30:42 GMT
Steven Gerrard is ACE as an England fan who has enjoyed his many stellar performances down the years I shall miss him. Thank you for your service Steven you were grrreat!
I jest, the only England player that hasn't let himself down over the past few tournaments is Ashley Cole in my opinion. Wise Woy the Owl faced pretentious prick left him out though because there were big calls for 'youth' and 'a new broom' etc.. Obviously this didn't extend to the midfield department but I enjoyed watching (the slightly younger than Ashley Cole and not as good) Leighton Baines struggle at LB. Sorry I'm digressing now.
Steven Gerrard. Leader. Captain. Inspiration. Hits like a girl. YNWA. etc etc..
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 21, 2014 15:58:12 GMT
I do have to concede I think Gerrard was very much over hyped in an England shirt.
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