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Post by chamberlain on Jul 19, 2014 9:57:29 GMT
Good luck Wilson, never seemed to have got over his brothers killing and never quite looked fit enough for the premier league, there was definitely talent in there but unfortunately we never got the opportunity to witness it. Gouranga. Quite right Albert
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 19, 2014 10:17:35 GMT
Good luck Wilson, never seemed to have got over his brothers killing and never quite looked fit enough for the premier league, there was definitely talent in there but unfortunately we never got the opportunity to witness it. Gouranga. I think he is a few years older than 29 tbh.Probably why he was always off the pace.As in Brazil I don't think birth certificates are mandatory in Honduras.
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 19, 2014 11:09:20 GMT
Now let's get rid of Shea and edu permanently. Ness and shotton as well. Wilko is completely useless and as per my various previous posts I don't rate him at all - top lad but extremely limited and talentless player. Plus with bardsley and Cameron he really is surplus to requirements. Jerome should be leaving as well. So with WP included if all the players I mentioned here are off-loaded there would be 7 useless wages less to pay and more money available for players who will really make a difference in our team While I see the logic, our squad would be quite light if we get rid of 7 this window. Need to be careful that we don't lose too many. we can replace with more valid players who are on a free being in end of contract
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 19, 2014 11:10:07 GMT
Now let's get rid of Shea and edu permanently. Ness and shotton as well. Wilko is completely useless and as per my various previous posts I don't rate him at all - top lad but extremely limited and talentless player. Plus with bardsley and Cameron he really is surplus to requirements. Jerome should be leaving as well. So with WP included if all the players I mentioned here are off-loaded there would be 7 useless wages less to pay and more money available for players who will really make a difference in our team I dont think Hughes will let Shea go anywhere if he starts to impress. i would be extreeeeeeeemely surprised if that were to happen ..,
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 19, 2014 11:18:05 GMT
Good luck to him, better watch out doesn't Qatar have some funny employment laws where the employer needs to agree to them leaving the country. He could be there until he's 90.
Never really cut the mustard at Stoke and I'm glad to see we're addressing our deadwood situation.
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Jul 19, 2014 11:19:51 GMT
Now let's get rid of Shea and edu permanently. Ness and shotton as well. Wilko is completely useless and as per my various previous posts I don't rate him at all - top lad but extremely limited and talentless player. Plus with bardsley and Cameron he really is surplus to requirements. Jerome should be leaving as well. So with WP included if all the players I mentioned here are off-loaded there would be 7 useless wages less to pay and more money available for players who will really make a difference in our team I dont think Hughes will let Shea go anywhere if he starts to impress. Do you have the slightest expectation that he will start to impress? He has been one big disapointment from day one!
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jul 19, 2014 11:28:22 GMT
I dont think Hughes will let Shea go anywhere if he starts to impress. Do you have the slightest expectation that he will start to impress? He has been one big disapointment from day one! Well he hasnt helped himself bit was injured for ages lets just wait & see.
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Post by onionman on Jul 19, 2014 11:46:45 GMT
This is a hammer blow for Mama Sidibe's hopes of making a profit from his cake shop.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 14:17:48 GMT
So we're getting a million quid for WP.That's a million more than most of us expected.
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Post by harrysburrow on Jul 19, 2014 16:01:12 GMT
Remember how chuffed I was when we signed him. What a waste of money.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 19, 2014 16:04:56 GMT
So we're getting a million quid for WP.That's a million more than most of us expected. And approx. £6 million less than we paid for him plus approx. £4 million in wages etc, rough calculations on the wages by the way, what a shit deal.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 19, 2014 16:13:24 GMT
So we're getting a million quid for WP.That's a million more than most of us expected. And approx. £6 million less than we paid for him plus approx. £4 million in wages etc, rough calculations on the wages by the way, what a shit deal. You're right but isn't hindsight a wonderful thing. At the time we were getting a player that seemed to fit us perfectly and he'd been an excellent player at both Wigan and Spurs. We signed both him and Crouch and, to be perfectly honest, I (and many others) thought that Palacios was the better part of that deal. Some transfers just don't work out and (in the Premier League) it can be very, very costly but all clubs have experienced it. Onward and upward.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 19, 2014 16:33:37 GMT
Hindsight - the bedrock of rimming.
It just goes to show the state of English football when a club like Stoke City and its fans can shrug off a £6million flop as if it's loose change. Fortunately Coates is not so blase and got rid of the bloke who pushed this deal through.
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Post by lordb on Jul 19, 2014 17:15:48 GMT
Hindsight - the bedrock of rimming. It just goes to show the state of English football when a club like Stoke City and its fans can shrug off a £6million flop as if it's loose change. Fortunately Coates is not so blase and got rid of the bloke who pushed this deal through. Every single manager,including Hughes (how much did he pay for Santa Cruz at Man City?),makes huge changers in the transfer market. I think you have to look at total transfer dealings to judge properly. TP was a success overall I would say(he signed some of the best players ever to play for the club...and some of the worst),none the less a change in transfer policy was needed. Edit: happy with Hughes Stoke record by the way.
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Post by mailman44 on Jul 19, 2014 17:19:43 GMT
Surprised out of all the clubs in Qatar he went to the perennial brides maids at "The kings club." Would have thought he would have gone to Lekwiyah, al Gharaffa, or Al Arabi. Just goes to show how little he is rated now.
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Post by Davef on Jul 19, 2014 17:42:09 GMT
It's true that there's a risk with any signing and no matter how talented a player is, sometimes he just won't be able to settle at a club.
The Palacios deal was a disaster really waiting to happen, and though as a mere fan it's easy to say that in hindsight, we employ people on large salaries to make sure we aren't duped in the way we were with this player.
A sorry episode that's cost the club a small fortune.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jul 19, 2014 18:20:08 GMT
Testing question....what was Palacios best game for Stoke?
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Post by mccfred on Jul 19, 2014 18:21:51 GMT
best of luck to him. hope he can take the climate!
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Post by march4 on Jul 19, 2014 18:22:45 GMT
I don't remember a single person on here thinking the signing of WP was a bad thing when it was happening.
Quite a few moaned about the Crouchy deal, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 20:13:06 GMT
I don't remember a single person on here thinking the signing of WP was a bad thing when it was happening. Quite a few moaned about the Crouchy deal, though. I might not have said so at the time,I can't recall,but Palacios was one of those players I could never understand what others saw him. As for Crouch I just thought we didn't need him ( we had KJ firing on all cylnders ) and that he was over-priced.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 20, 2014 10:28:12 GMT
Hindsight - the bedrock of rimming. It just goes to show the state of English football when a club like Stoke City and its fans can shrug off a £6million flop as if it's loose change. Fortunately Coates is not so blase and got rid of the bloke who pushed this deal through. Nobody is "writing it off as if it's loose change" Pugs but, the fact is, it does require hindsight to be so judgmental about this signing. It didn't look a terrible signing at the time and Stoke needed a player with his 'proven' qualities at that time. Most agreed that it looked a good signing back then. IN HINDSIGHT it was a terrible signing but, to repeat myself, it happens at every club (ask Liverpool fans about Salif). There cannot be a single club that haven't invested in, what looked like an excellent signing at the time, that turned out to be a dreadful one. Incidentally, although I clearly fit your profile of a Pulis 'rimmer', I'd like to think I'm an open minded individual who tries to comment with fairness and balance most of the time. Pulis can certainly be criticised for several of his transfer dealings but, strangely enough, probably his worst signing (all things considered) looked a pretty good one to most fans at the time. That's just the way it goes sometimes (at every club).
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Post by Plave on Jul 20, 2014 10:37:43 GMT
Testing question....what was Palacios best game for Stoke? I'm struggling, it's easier to think of a good Diego Arismendi midfield performance for Stoke than Wilson Palacios. Sad as I thought he'd be a great player for us.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 11:34:06 GMT
VERY VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR CLUB THIS GOES THROUGH ! - then probably the worse transfer mistake we've made at this level is finally corrected
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Post by harrysburrow on Jul 20, 2014 20:14:56 GMT
Hope he doesn't get his balls in a tangle!
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Post by lordb on Jul 20, 2014 20:59:25 GMT
I don't remember a single person on here thinking the signing of WP was a bad thing when it was happening. Quite a few moaned about the Crouchy deal, though. I might not have said so at the time,I can't recall,but Palacios was one of those players I could never understand what others saw him. As for Crouch I just thought we didn't need him ( we had KJ firing on all cylnders ) and that he was over-priced. Ah the Kenwynne firing on all cylinders myth.
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Post by Jimm on Jul 20, 2014 21:09:12 GMT
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Post by harrysburrow on Jul 20, 2014 21:15:17 GMT
People on here aren't moaning about the signing of Palacios - more the fact that he turned it to be a gross waste of time and money?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 20, 2014 22:16:18 GMT
Great. He's unshiftable. TwitterQatar Sports Club overlooked to sing with #Honduras notional team player "Wilson Palacios" because he didn't pass the medical examination
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 20, 2014 22:16:49 GMT
Fat fucker!
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Post by jarhead on Jul 20, 2014 22:17:18 GMT
Thank fuck for that and I'm still so glad Pulis did not waste The Coates family's money.....!
Not fuckin much...
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