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Post by interestedobserver on Jul 9, 2014 16:46:00 GMT
and that he can play fullback in a pinch? Neither did I. Brek Shea (Stoke City) - Assuming he actually gets to play somewhere, Klinsmann would really like to have Brek Shea at his disposal. He's the team's only true left-footed left winger, an incredible athlete, a great defensive winger and a fullback in a pinch. Basically, he's left-sided DeAndre Yedlin. Problem is, he's not playing a lot of competitive soccer. He needs a great loan or a transfer from Stoke, ASAP.www.sbnation.com/soccer/2014/7/3/5864221/potential-usmnt-players-to-watch-during-the-2018-world-cup-cycle |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 16:51:21 GMT
When he signed, we weren't sure if he was a full-back or a winger. Now we're not sure if he's a footballer.
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jul 9, 2014 17:06:11 GMT
When he signed, we weren't sure if he was a full-back or a winger. Now we're not sure if he's a footballer. I'm not even sure if he's a man, if I'm honest. |
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Post by interestedobserver on Jul 9, 2014 17:20:26 GMT
Well, I guess it didn't take long for me to regret starting this thread. I posted it because I thought the analysis in the article was humorously off target. I would never see him as a defensive asset.
He is a signing for us who hasn't worked out. He will probably find himself back in MLS (and that is probably about his level, ATM). But I don't agree with the personal insults.
I'm in favor of shit-binning this thread.
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Post by mailman44 on Jul 9, 2014 21:03:34 GMT
Shea is ideally suited to play as a wingback in a 3-5-2 or 5-3-2. Havie him playing as such in my Stoke FM save and he is doing very well. Just sayin' ....
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 9, 2014 21:06:41 GMT
Shea sucks, PR signing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 21:08:26 GMT
PR for what? How to throw bread around in a video with Edu or how to look a twat whilst holding a pair of massive guns? |
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Post by gothicstokelover on Jul 9, 2014 21:09:46 GMT
never realised he was great or even good at anything...thought he was a decent prospect but has never really delivered at any level.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 9, 2014 21:10:17 GMT
PR for what? How to throw bread around in a video with Edu or how to look a twat whilst holding a pair of massive guns? The fact hes American and has a massive fanboy twitter following back in Texas. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 21:13:05 GMT
PR for what? How to throw bread around in a video with Edu or how to look a twat whilst holding a pair of massive guns? The fact hes American and has a massive fanboy twitter following back in Texas. Ahh yes. The chartered flights from Texas to East Midlands bringing an army of fans for our new filled in corner. I get it now. Good old Brek. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jul 9, 2014 21:15:50 GMT
He was a center back too. But this is all back when he was faster than all of his competition like Yedlin. Now he's not faster, and still can't control the ball.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 9, 2014 21:17:27 GMT
The fact hes American and has a massive fanboy twitter following back in Texas. Ahh yes. The chartered flights from Texas to East Midlands bringing an army of fans for our new filled in corner. I get it now. Good old Brek. There are more US based clubmembers than ever for SCFC. Also more US kit sales and followers than ever before. Shea, Cameron and Edu certainty helped that no doubt. I was part of a 8 person trip to the brit from the US this last season. 7 out of 8 not only was it there first time to England, they choose Stoke because of the US players and team attitude. Theres more stokies over here than you could imagine. I basically was a tour guide. They loved oatcakes btw. Its taking off over here. |
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 9, 2014 21:19:27 GMT
Hughes has turned around a few players in the short time he's been here,I'll wait and see if he's given a run and then pass judgement.
I know he's been out on loan and i would imagine as a foreigner going to clubs like Barnsley (no offense) it's like the old proverbial lets see how they do on a cold rainy November night at Stoke.
After all for the best part of the season Arnie was a is he or isn't he.
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 9, 2014 23:19:56 GMT
The only position I'd play him is left outside
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Post by interestedobserver on Jul 10, 2014 0:42:35 GMT
Ahh yes. The chartered flights from Texas to East Midlands bringing an army of fans for our new filled in corner. I get it now. Good old Brek. There are more US based clubmembers than ever for SCFC. Also more US kit sales and followers than ever before. Shea, Cameron and Edu certainty helped that no doubt. I was part of a 8 person trip to the brit from the US this last season. 7 out of 8 not only was it there first time to England, they choose Stoke because of the US players and team attitude. Theres more stokies over here than you could imagine. I basically was a tour guide. They loved oatcakes btw. Its taking off over here. So you're saying it was a contingent of fan boys.  |
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Post by MuddyWoody on Jul 10, 2014 7:07:49 GMT
We haven't seen enough of him to pass judgement imo.
He looked like he might have something about him in the bits of the last pre season games I saw him in. Maybe he'll get a run of games under his belt so we can finally find out.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 10, 2014 7:25:31 GMT
I don't think it would be fair to criticize Shea too much really. Apart from acting a dick, he hasn't actually had enough time on the pitch to do anything remotely useful. If I was Sparky, I would be tempted to give him an early run out, say the first half against Hull. Maybe not Villa because at home he might get some stick if he plays poorly.
If he's given a full half and looks absolutely fucking useless then I think it's fair to say he won't be staying long at Stoke, but a few 15 minute cameos aren't enough to prove to me he's shit or not.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 10, 2014 7:54:26 GMT
Until we sign another winger he's got half a chance hasn't he?
Who are the starting wide men? Arnie and PO, Arnie and SJW?
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 10, 2014 7:58:37 GMT
The reason Shea has had very little time on the pitch is because all of the evidence about his playing ability shows that he is a very, very poor football player.
We can not afford to pick very, very poor football players.
He had a great opportunity to prove that he can actually play at Barnsley, where he failed miserably.
If we get any offer at all for Shea, even if it's to just take over his contract so we can save his wages, we should take it without hesitation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 7:59:29 GMT
I don't know what you're all worrying about. The American Gareth Bale will come good one day*.
* in Orlando
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Post by ukcstokie on Jul 10, 2014 9:41:42 GMT
The Oatcake punch bag that is Brek Shea.
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jul 11, 2014 6:27:54 GMT
He had a great opportunity to prove that he can actually play at Barnsley, where he failed miserably. This sums it up for me with him. He had a great chance to show Stoke what he could do but instead he decided to blow his (possibly last) chance by swearing at the supporters after a 5-0 loss. To me that just shows he's up his own arse and doesn't give a crap. It would be bad enough if someone like Arnautovic did this but, as people have said, it's not even as if he's any good. |
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 11, 2014 6:41:47 GMT
Stoke supporters can be so damn fickle. I remember some of the exact same things being said about Arnie not so long ago, nice to see you still haven't learned from that. Regardless of anything else Shea is a Stoke player, aren't we meant to support our players? Or is it just too much fun ripping them apart??
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 11, 2014 7:21:37 GMT
Stoke supporters can be so damn fickle. I remember some of the exact same things being said about Arnie not so long ago, nice to see you still haven't learned from that. Regardless of anything else Shea is a Stoke player, aren't we meant to support our players? Or is it just too much fun ripping them apart?? He is obviously well out of his depth at this level, he struggled at Barnsley FFS, Pulis wasted millions on him we need to get rid as soon as. |
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 11, 2014 7:53:26 GMT
Stoke supporters can be so damn fickle. I remember some of the exact same things being said about Arnie not so long ago, nice to see you still haven't learned from that. Regardless of anything else Shea is a Stoke player, aren't we meant to support our players? Or is it just too much fun ripping them apart?? He is obviously well out of his depth at this level, he struggled at Barnsley FFS, Pulis wasted millions on him we need to get rid as soon as. Having that opinion is fine, no problem. What I don't like is the way he gets slated on here, it happens with all the out of favour players and it's BS. Why people can't just have their opinion and leave it at that I do not know, seems like some just enjoy tearing people apart. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 11, 2014 8:22:06 GMT
Stoke supporters can be so damn fickle. I remember some of the exact same things being said about Arnie not so long ago, nice to see you still haven't learned from that. Regardless of anything else Shea is a Stoke player, aren't we meant to support our players? Or is it just too much fun ripping them apart?? You are quite right some Stoke supporters are very fickle. Despite Arnie's obvious talent some did indeed give him a hard time at the start. Personally I was thrilled to see an exciting flair player in our team and felt all along that he would come good. I posted several times in support of Arnie. It was clear to see from Arnie's first game he had talent. It was clear to see from Shea's first game that he did not. That said no-one really got into Shea until his "couldn't give a shit" performance against Walsall in the league Cup and his subsequent "stuff you approach" to his loan at Barnsley. Stoke fans do have a responsibilty to support Stoke players. Stoke players in turn have an obligation to perform in a professional manner and to give their very best at all times. Brek Shea has so far failed to meet his part of the deal. If he had been a poor signing who really tried things for me would be different. So far Mr Shea seems to have taken the piss out of my club and his own job. I hope he proves me wrong and goes on to at least look like he is trying to be a football player. Is it fun ripping Stoke players apart? No. It is fun watching talented footballers play for Stoke. It's even fun watching limited players give their all in a job I personally would give pretty much anything to do. Watching Brek Shea has been far from fun. |
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 11, 2014 9:00:27 GMT
I think we have seen enough of how MH works last season to know he will give players a chance to prove what they can do, e.g. Pennant.
I think he will give Shea a chance during pre-season and keep him if he shows promise and try and loan him again, or decide to let him go before the end of the transfer window.
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 11, 2014 9:20:14 GMT
Stoke supporters can be so damn fickle. I remember some of the exact same things being said about Arnie not so long ago, nice to see you still haven't learned from that. Regardless of anything else Shea is a Stoke player, aren't we meant to support our players? Or is it just too much fun ripping them apart?? You are quite right some Stoke supporters are very fickle. Despite Arnie's obvious talent some did indeed give him a hard time at the start. Personally I was thrilled to see an exciting flair player in our team and felt all along that he would come good. I posted several times in support of Arnie. It was clear to see from Arnie's first game he had talent. It was clear to see from Shea's first game that he did not. That said no-one really got into Shea until his "couldn't give a shit" performance against Walsall in the league Cup and his subsequent "stuff you approach" to his loan at Barnsley. Stoke fans do have a responsibilty to support Stoke players. Stoke players in turn have an obligation to perform in a professional manner and to give their very best at all times. Brek Shea has so far failed to meet his part of the deal. If he had been a poor signing who really tried things for me would be different. So far Mr Shea seems to have taken the piss out of my club and his own job. I hope he proves me wrong and goes on to at least look like he is trying to be a football player. Is it fun ripping Stoke players apart? No. It is fun watching talented footballers play for Stoke. It's even fun watching limited players give their all in a job I personally would give pretty much anything to do. Watching Brek Shea has been far from fun. You see, that's perfectly put for me. You gave your opinion, which may or may not be too far off the mark regarding Shea - But you didn't make it personal and that is what I am talking about. It's 100% fine to share our thoughts on players and their performance, I just don't like to see some of our supports try to rip one of our players so badly. At the end of the day he still a Stoke City player, on that basis alone he deserves some level of respect. |
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Post by ukcstokie on Jul 11, 2014 9:54:28 GMT
Stoke supporters can be so damn fickle. I remember some of the exact same things being said about Arnie not so long ago, nice to see you still haven't learned from that. Regardless of anything else Shea is a Stoke player, aren't we meant to support our players? Or is it just too much fun ripping them apart?? He is obviously well out of his depth at this level, he struggled at Barnsley FFS, Pulis wasted millions on him we need to get rid as soon as. He's had couple of outings for the first team. Both after long injuries. He was decent 2nd half against Fulham (getting a pen and going close from long range - more than the rest of the team did in fact). He hasn't cut it since really. But the outright glee some Stoke fans take in his struggles and apparent failures is sickening. Gloating springs to mind. As I said above - he appears to be the Oatcake punch bag for some of our supporters. He may not make it with us - it's looking increasingly unlikely that he will, but to enjoy that? FFS. |
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Post by Billybigbollox on Jul 11, 2014 11:08:31 GMT
When he signed, we weren't sure if he was a full-back or a winger. Now we're not sure if he's a footballer.  True
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