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Post by howedy on Apr 20, 2014 9:43:09 GMT
Sorry if already posted but....
Am I the only person who thinks that altidore completely cheated to get that penalty for Sunderland. I think he stood on Azpilicueta's leg if anything! I take no sides with either team, I dislike them an equal amount for different reasons.
Opinions?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 9:44:17 GMT
He didn't cheat but it wasn't a penalty in my eyes.Like you say he kicked/stood on the defender and then went over
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 9:46:40 GMT
I thought it was nailed on. It looked to me as if the defender took him out not with the leg he tried to tackle with, but the other one on the follow through.
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 20, 2014 9:51:52 GMT
Agree with the OP.
Altidore altered his stride in ana unatural manner to tread on the defender's leg.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 9:55:24 GMT
Just seen it on goals on Sunday and it's a pen. People are quick to shout out he's cheated etc but azpilacueta clearly took his standing leg when he went for the block. Ok it wasn't intended but it wasn't a dive and he caught him
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Post by metalhead on Apr 20, 2014 10:03:13 GMT
Looked a penalty to me, no question. Far more clear cut than ours.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 20, 2014 10:03:43 GMT
Just seen it on GOS and it's clearly a dive. I'm also confused as to why Larson wasn't given a straight red and a penalty awarded to Chelsea for his barge on the attacker to prevent the goal.
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Post by RAF on Apr 20, 2014 10:05:01 GMT
Never a penna as proved on GOS, and as I said last night.
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Post by howedy on Apr 20, 2014 10:05:35 GMT
Just seen it on goals on Sunday and it's a pen. People are quick to shout out he's cheated etc but azpilacueta clearly took his standing leg when he went for the block. Ok it wasn't intended but it wasn't a dive and he caught him But how can he take his leg when his leg is already in front of him?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 10:06:58 GMT
Just seen it on goals on Sunday and it's a pen. People are quick to shout out he's cheated etc but azpilacueta clearly took his standing leg when he went for the block. Ok it wasn't intended but it wasn't a dive and he caught him But how can he take his leg when his leg is already in front of him? Watch the replay. As he slid in to block the shot he caught altidores ankle and took it from under him. Not intended but certainly no dive
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 20, 2014 10:07:36 GMT
Yep I couldn't believe it when Hansen and Shearer were claiming it was stone wall on MOTD - Goals On Sunday have called it bang on imo, never a penalty.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 10:08:29 GMT
Just seen it on goals on Sunday and it's a pen. People are quick to shout out he's cheated etc but azpilacueta clearly took his standing leg when he went for the block. Ok it wasn't intended but it wasn't a dive and he caught him But how can he take his leg when his leg is already in front of him? It was his other leg as he was sliding in. Not the one he made the challenge with. Even Kammy gets it wrong sometimes
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Post by howedy on Apr 20, 2014 10:13:34 GMT
The only contact I can see, after watching it a million times, is altidore standing on CA's leg.....
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 20, 2014 10:15:57 GMT
I think Poyet got it right personally.
Sometimes they are given, sometimes they are not. It was a very debatable decision, but from the angle of the linesman and Mike Dean, you can certainly see why it was given.
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Post by howedy on Apr 20, 2014 10:18:22 GMT
I think Poyet got it right personally. Sometimes they are given, sometimes they are not. It was a very debatable decision, but from the angle of the linesman and Mike Dean, you can certainly see why it was given. I can definitely see why Dean gave the decision from his position. The linesman should have said something really
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Post by howedy on Apr 20, 2014 10:19:55 GMT
Just seen it on GOS and it's clearly a dive. I'm also confused as to why Larson wasn't given a straight red and a penalty awarded to Chelsea for his barge on the attacker to prevent the goal. Definitely right with regards to larrson. I was really confused about that
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 20, 2014 10:23:12 GMT
More to the point - why did the defender make such a desperate challenge? It was only Altidore - it's not like he was going to anything other than shank it out of play.
Check, for example that breakaway attack Sunderland had in injury time; 3 on 1 and the guy running through the centre chose to go left to Altidore rather than right to the other guy. Outcome; Altidore fucked it up. He is truly hopeless. Not someone you risk penalties for.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 20, 2014 10:27:41 GMT
Just seen it on GOS and it's clearly a dive. I'm also confused as to why Larson wasn't given a straight red and a penalty awarded to Chelsea for his barge on the attacker to prevent the goal. Definitely right with regards to larrson. I was really confused about that Glad someone else agrees, totally mystified me when I saw it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 10:29:00 GMT
Pen no doubt, even if Altidore did stand on Azpilicueta's leg (which I don't believe he did) it was a poor challenge that would never have gotten the ball and was frankly inviting a penalty
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Post by howedy on Apr 20, 2014 10:33:57 GMT
More to the point - why did the defender make such a desperate challenge? It was only Altidore - it's not like he was going to anything other than shank it out of play. Check, for example that breakaway attack Sunderland had in injury time; 3 on 1 and the guy running through the centre chose to go left to Altidore rather than right to the other guy. Outcome; Altidore fucked it up. He is truly hopeless. Not someone you risk penalties for. I think he was trying to block a cross, but got way too close and failed miserably
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Apr 20, 2014 15:55:28 GMT
Just seen it on GOS and it's clearly a dive. I'm also confused as to why Larson wasn't given a straight red and a penalty awarded to Chelsea for his barge on the attacker to prevent the goal. Definitely right with regards to larrson. I was really confused about that I'm with you boys on these two. Altidore - stood on the defender after the defender hit the floor Larson - if that's a shoulder charge, it's got more aggressive over the years. For me it was a pen
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 16:02:23 GMT
Never a penalty. Yes the defender caught the trailing leg but look at the angle Altidore is already at when contact is made.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 20, 2014 16:06:01 GMT
At the time I thought it was a pen, debatable, but I've seen them given for less and I can see an argument for the decision being driven by a Merseyside bias. It doesn't detract from the fact that Altidore is pretty woeful, and weak as piss for a great lump of a man.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 20, 2014 16:08:40 GMT
Poor defending to go to ground , no danger so runs the risk agree about Larsson challenge though , nowhere near the ball
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Post by bignickhowes on Apr 20, 2014 16:16:00 GMT
never a penalty, he fell over standing on the defenders leg
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 16:29:24 GMT
I thought it was nailed on. It looked to me as if the defender took him out not with the leg he tried to tackle with, but the other one on the follow through. That's how I see it Rob. Wasn't convinced it was a penalty on first viewing but having seen the replays the ref got it spot on.
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Post by malteser68 on Apr 21, 2014 6:18:23 GMT
Just seen it on GOS and it's clearly a dive. I'm also confused as to why Larson wasn't given a straight red and a penalty awarded to Chelsea for his barge on the attacker to prevent the goal. Definitely right with regards to larrson. I was really confused about that nothing to get confused about - the FA have decided that lpool should win the title this year
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 21, 2014 6:24:14 GMT
Altidore cant even dive right... What an embarrassment he's been in a Blunderland shirt. Sums their season up for me...
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Post by Peters Pipe on Apr 21, 2014 7:21:11 GMT
Looks to me like a penalty. Altidore widens his stance to protect the ball (Ric used to do it all the time) at the byline and his left leg is caught by the Azpilicueta's trailing left just as he goes to put his foot down. Stupid challenge considering where he was heading and yes, a debatable one, but it'd be given most times outside of the box. I would imagine we'd all be pretty hacked off were it us and it not given.... especially at that point in a game, away at Chelsea! A good one to debate though
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Post by Silkystoke on Apr 21, 2014 9:06:00 GMT
never a pen...
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