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Post by mermaidsal on Apr 20, 2014 19:11:29 GMT
Who do I get in touch with at the club about racist/homophobic abuse? There was a man behind me who had some very choice words about Zaha. Tony Scholes and the Fans' Forum should be the two places to start and a letter to the Sentinel (or email Martin Spinks) if you get no joy there - great you're drawing attention to this.
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Post by mermaidsal on Apr 20, 2014 19:12:42 GMT
As for a lot of the comment on this thread, even if tongue in cheek, honestly I despair.
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Post by nsd on Apr 20, 2014 19:12:50 GMT
i for one couldnt care less people need to stop being so precious and adding fuel to people like Sol Campbells belief that everyone was racist towards him and the only reason he wasnt england captain as because he was black. nothing to do with the fact that alan shearer and david beckham were 10 times the player There is now also toure - who reckons he is being treated like an animal - whilst on £220,000 per week because people are racist towards him. what a load of bollocks. anyone ever considered all of this ultra liberal crap might offend people, or is that ok because the media ram it down peoples throat 24/7......... There is a clear and pronounced difference between calling someone a coon/nigger and Sol Campbell being an attention-hungry egoist. If you can't see that then you're fucking dense. If you're offended by someone simply wanting people not being discriminated against for their race/gender/religion/sexuality then I pity the prejudiced and bigoted world that you live in. Not precious mate, just a decent human being.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2014 19:12:54 GMT
And you are ? to tell others that they are wrong, are you qualified to give out this advice ?, I have been called honky snowflake etc. if I had reported the individuals would they have been arrested, I think I know the answer to that one which is why I did not bother that and not wanting to look like a right precious soft twat. Yes, I am qualified to give out the advice I did. You will notice from my previous post that I quoted the law, that says it is an offence to use racist language in public regardless of the fact that the intended victim heard or not; If someone used racist language to you as you are suggesting, you have every right to report that since you didn't how could you claim to know what the outcome would or indeed would not be?
If you choose not to report an incident through fear of looking like a "right precious soft twat" That is your choice.
I could quote the law as well it is easy to find such information on the net and elsewhere, do you believe that if I had reported the incidents the perpetrators would have been arrested ?
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2014 19:16:13 GMT
i for one couldnt care less people need to stop being so precious and adding fuel to people like Sol Campbells belief that everyone was racist towards him and the only reason he wasnt england captain as because he was black. nothing to do with the fact that alan shearer and david beckham were 10 times the player There is now also toure - who reckons he is being treated like an animal - whilst on £220,000 per week because people are racist towards him. what a load of bollocks. anyone ever considered all of this ultra liberal crap might offend people, or is that ok because the media ram it down peoples throat 24/7......... You are a real dimwit aren't you. That's not very nice is it, you have offended my sense of justice should I report this.
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Post by stokiejeff on Apr 20, 2014 19:17:51 GMT
I'd get in touch with the club, tell them you are not renewing your season ticket, use the money to get Sky and watch the games in peace without anyone upsetting you and causing you so much stress.... Or, alternatively, Man up a little and just ignore it... How can a woman "man up"?
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2014 19:19:03 GMT
I'd get in touch with the club, tell them you are not renewing your season ticket, use the money to get Sky and watch the games in peace without anyone upsetting you and causing you so much stress.... Or, alternatively, Man up a little and just ignore it... How can a woman "man up"? There are operations that could assist the process I am lead to believe.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2014 19:23:49 GMT
i for one couldnt care less people need to stop being so precious and adding fuel to people like Sol Campbells belief that everyone was racist towards him and the only reason he wasnt england captain as because he was black. nothing to do with the fact that alan shearer and david beckham were 10 times the player There is now also toure - who reckons he is being treated like an animal - whilst on £220,000 per week because people are racist towards him. what a load of bollocks. anyone ever considered all of this ultra liberal crap might offend people, or is that ok because the media ram it down peoples throat 24/7......... There is a clear and pronounced difference between calling someone a coon/nigger and Sol Campbell being an attention-hungry egoist. If you can't see that then you're fucking dense. If you're offended by someone simply wanting people not being discriminated against for their race/gender/religion/sexuality then I pity the prejudiced and bigoted world that you live in. Not precious mate, just a decent human being. Would it be ok to discriminate against people who are overweight, tall, small, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, German, disabled etc. Sol Campbell seems to be using his race to gain an advantage which ever way you look at it if that is the case it is bang out of order.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 20, 2014 19:30:48 GMT
There is a clear and pronounced difference between calling someone a coon/nigger and Sol Campbell being an attention-hungry egoist. If you can't see that then you're fucking dense. If you're offended by someone simply wanting people not being discriminated against for their race/gender/religion/sexuality then I pity the prejudiced and bigoted world that you live in. Not precious mate, just a decent human being. Would it be ok to discriminate against people who are overweight, tall, small, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, German, disabled etc. Sol Campbell seems to be using his race to gain an advantage which ever way you look at it if that is the case it is bang out of order. Exactly what have Sol Campbell's bizarre, ill thought out and self centred views got to do with a Stokie on Saturday calling Zaha a nigger and a coon? Did the racist Stokie mistake him for Sol Campbell - or is he one of those sad individuals to whom all people with black skin look the same?
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2014 19:33:44 GMT
Would it be ok to discriminate against people who are overweight, tall, small, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, German, disabled etc. Sol Campbell seems to be using his race to gain an advantage which ever way you look at it if that is the case it is bang out of order. Exactly what have Sol Campbell's bizarre, ill thought out and self centred views got to do with a Stokie on Saturday calling Zaha a nigger and a coon? Did the racist Stokie mistake him for Sol Campbell - or is he one of those sad individuals to whom all people with black skin look the same? He would have to be partially sighted if he confused Zaha with Campbell, apart from the size thing they are totally different colours.
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Post by boozo on Apr 20, 2014 19:33:55 GMT
i for one couldnt care less people need to stop being so precious and adding fuel to people like Sol Campbells belief that everyone was racist towards him and the only reason he wasnt england captain as because he was black. nothing to do with the fact that alan shearer and david beckham were 10 times the player There is now also toure - who reckons he is being treated like an animal - whilst on £220,000 per week because people are racist towards him. what a load of bollocks. anyone ever considered all of this ultra liberal crap might offend people, or is that ok because the media ram it down peoples throat 24/7......... There is a clear and pronounced difference between calling someone a coon/nigger and Sol Campbell being an attention-hungry egoist. If you can't see that then you're fucking dense. If you're offended by someone simply wanting people not being discriminated against for their race/gender/religion/sexuality then I pity the prejudiced and bigoted world that you live in. Not precious mate, just a decent human being. go on - tell people how offended you are when you hear the term ginger cunt. Are you as mortally wounded when you hear this, as you are when you hear the term black cunt? Both are insults on a genetic level, but you find one a thousand times more abusive than the other, because thats how you have been conditioned to. What a complete joker run along and hug a tree whilst emmersing yourself in fairy dust and singing what a wonderful world.
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Post by LDE76 on Apr 20, 2014 19:35:26 GMT
There really are some gargantuan dundercunts on here.
I'm almost resigned to the impending post from the paramecial prick who thinks being opposed to racism makes you "left-wing."
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2014 19:36:44 GMT
There is a clear and pronounced difference between calling someone a coon/nigger and Sol Campbell being an attention-hungry egoist. If you can't see that then you're fucking dense. If you're offended by someone simply wanting people not being discriminated against for their race/gender/religion/sexuality then I pity the prejudiced and bigoted world that you live in. Not precious mate, just a decent human being. go on - tell people how offended you are when you hear the term ginger cunt. Are you as mortally wounded when you hear this, as you are when you hear the term black cunt? Both are insults on a genetic level, but you find one a thousand times more abusive than the other, because thats how you have been conditioned to. What a complete joker run along and hug a tree whilst emmersing yourself in fairy dust and singing what a wonderful world. Now we are in Wes Brown territory, this could get messy.
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Post by slogger on Apr 20, 2014 19:38:49 GMT
go on - tell people how offended you are when you hear the term ginger cunt. Are you as mortally wounded when you hear this, as you are when you hear the term black cunt? Both are insults on a genetic level, but you find one a thousand times more abusive than the other, because thats how you have been conditioned to. What a complete joker run along and hug a tree whilst emmersing yourself in fairy dust and singing what a wonderful world. Now we are Wes Brown territory, this could get messy. I no a lad with ginger hair who wishs he was black because of the shit he gets
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 20, 2014 19:39:28 GMT
Yes, I am qualified to give out the advice I did. You will notice from my previous post that I quoted the law, that says it is an offence to use racist language in public regardless of the fact that the intended victim heard or not; If someone used racist language to you as you are suggesting, you have every right to report that since you didn't how could you claim to know what the outcome would or indeed would not be?
If you choose not to report an incident through fear of looking like a "right precious soft twat" That is your choice.
I could quote the law as well it is easy to find such information on the net and elsewhere, do you believe that if I had reported the incidents the perpetrators would have been arrested ? I don't know the circumstances of the incident that involved you, but if you make a complaint to the police, they have to investigate it. If as you say, it is so easy to find information on the law by looking on the net, why didn't you do that before agreeing with a factually incorrect post?
You replied to the post "I would of thought so too" or words to that effect - I simply pointed out to you that, what you "thought" was actually wrong. Nothing else.
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Post by nsd on Apr 20, 2014 19:41:15 GMT
There is a clear and pronounced difference between calling someone a coon/nigger and Sol Campbell being an attention-hungry egoist. If you can't see that then you're fucking dense. If you're offended by someone simply wanting people not being discriminated against for their race/gender/religion/sexuality then I pity the prejudiced and bigoted world that you live in. Not precious mate, just a decent human being. go on - tell people how offended you are when you hear the term ginger cunt. Are you as mortally wounded when you hear this, as you are when you hear the term black cunt? Both are insults on a genetic level, but you find one a thousand times more abusive than the other, because thats how you have been conditioned to. What a complete joker run along and hug a tree whilst emmersing yourself in fairy dust and singing what a wonderful world. I just thought we might all be a bit happier if people weren't dickheads to each other. Clearly I was mistaken.
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Post by daibando on Apr 20, 2014 19:45:16 GMT
i for one couldnt care less people need to stop being so precious and adding fuel to people like Sol Campbells belief that everyone was racist towards him and the only reason he wasnt england captain as because he was black. nothing to do with the fact that alan shearer and david beckham were 10 times the player There is now also toure - who reckons he is being treated like an animal - whilst on £220,000 per week because people are racist towards him. what a load of bollocks. anyone ever considered all of this ultra liberal crap might offend people, or is that ok because the media ram it down peoples throat 24/7......... There is a clear and pronounced difference between calling someone a coon/nigger and Sol Campbell being an attention-hungry egoist. If you can't see that then you're fucking dense. If you're offended by someone simply wanting people not being discriminated against for their race/gender/religion/sexuality then I pity the prejudiced and bigoted world that you live in. Not precious mate, just a decent human being. Spot on newschool... How people can put the two together is unbelievable....I hope it's more to do with a lack of intellect rather than malice but I'm not sure. Well done with reporting it
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2014 19:48:33 GMT
I could quote the law as well it is easy to find such information on the net and elsewhere, do you believe that if I had reported the incidents the perpetrators would have been arrested ? I don't know the circumstances of the incident that involved you, but if you make a complaint to the police, they have to investigate it. If as you say, it is so easy to find information on the law by looking on the net, why didn't you do that before agreeing with a factually incorrect post?
You replied to the post "I would of thought so too" or words to that effect - I simply pointed out to you that, what you "thought" was actually wrong. Nothing else.
I did not look up the laws you are advising me on because I thought the post made common sense, obviously the law has a different perspective on such matters, as you are alluding to the fact that you are actually qualified on this subject matter you must be correct, so the law is a bit of an ass I thought so.
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Post by slogger on Apr 20, 2014 19:50:46 GMT
nothing will happen . Like he is going admit it he could say it was you saying it !! Abuse of all sorts of things go on at football imagine if the ref complained about the shit he got You are such a thick twat! I will probably be banned for saying that but I am so proud of the original poster for saying something because she is my daughter and if some other "big men" stood up to the racism and homophobia the world would be a better place. no one said the post was wrong or what she did was wrong or is doing is wrong she should do as she feels is right . In the re world i am saying it happens it will always happen in football there abuse on all levels you can except that and set your own standards or not the choice is yours and let's not forget it's one persons word against a person who has not yet defended his actions and in our country your innocent until proved other wise
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 20, 2014 19:52:32 GMT
I don't know the circumstances of the incident that involved you, but if you make a complaint to the police, they have to investigate it. If as you say, it is so easy to find information on the law by looking on the net, why didn't you do that before agreeing with a factually incorrect post?
You replied to the post "I would of thought so too" or words to that effect - I simply pointed out to you that, what you "thought" was actually wrong. Nothing else.
I did not look up the laws you are advising me on because I thought the post made common sense, obviously the law has a different perspective on such matters, as you are alluding to the fact that you are actually qualified on this subject matter you must be correct, so the law is a bit of an ass I thought so. I would suggest that it is you, rather than the law, that is a bit of an ass on this occasion.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2014 19:58:18 GMT
I did not look up the laws you are advising me on because I thought the post made common sense, obviously the law has a different perspective on such matters, as you are alluding to the fact that you are actually qualified on this subject matter you must be correct, so the law is a bit of an ass I thought so. I would suggest that it is you, rather than the law, that is a bit of an ass on this occasion. Is that an educated suggestion or an assumption, as you are as you as you say qualified in law matters you must be correct again ee orr ee or.
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Post by stokiejeff on Apr 20, 2014 20:05:47 GMT
You are such a thick twat! I will probably be banned for saying that but I am so proud of the original poster for saying something because she is my daughter and if some other "big men" stood up to the racism and homophobia the world would be a better place. no one said the post was wrong or what she did was wrong or is doing is wrong she should do as she feels is right . In the re world i am saying it happens it will always happen in football there abuse on all levels you can except that and set your own standards or not the choice is yours and let's not forget it's one persons word against a person who has not yet defended his actions and in our country your innocent until proved other wise What I am trying to say is it shouldn't happen, not that it doesn't. We don't live in a utopian society where everything is perfect but if there were less bigotted people it would be a whole lot better.
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Post by march4 on Apr 20, 2014 20:12:25 GMT
no one said the post was wrong or what she did was wrong or is doing is wrong she should do as she feels is right . In the re world i am saying it happens it will always happen in football there abuse on all levels you can except that and set your own standards or not the choice is yours and let's not forget it's one persons word against a person who has not yet defended his actions and in our country your innocent until proved other wise What I am trying to say is it shouldn't happen, not that it doesn't. We don't live in a utopian society where everything is perfect but if there were less bigotted people it would be a whole lot better. Well said!!
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Post by openg on Apr 20, 2014 20:12:26 GMT
Now we are Wes Brown territory, this could get messy. I no a lad with ginger hair who wishs he was black because of the shit he gets Not having that. Is he too thick to just wish he was exactly the same but with different coloured hair?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 20, 2014 20:15:38 GMT
I no a lad with ginger hair who wishs he was black because of the shit he gets Not having that. Is he too thick to just wish he was exactly the same but with different coloured hair? I suspect that a lot of the people slogger knows could be a few sandwiches short of a picnic!
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Post by march4 on Apr 20, 2014 20:16:48 GMT
Not having that. Is he too thick to just wish he was exactly the same but with different coloured hair? I suspect that a lot of the people slogger knows could be a few sandwiches short of a picnic! No need to discriminate against those with deficient picnics
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Post by slogger on Apr 20, 2014 20:20:10 GMT
I suspect that a lot of the people slogger knows could be a few sandwiches short of a picnic! No need to discriminate against those with deficient picnics trust me he can't even get a girl because of his ginger hair . He try's chat a girl up they all just take the piss asking if he's got ginger bollocks ect
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Post by march4 on Apr 20, 2014 20:23:06 GMT
No need to discriminate against those with deficient picnics trust me he can't even get a girl because of his ginger hair . He try's chat a girl up they all just take the piss asking if he's got ginger bollocks ect There is a pretty obvious answer to that, but I'm too much of a gentleman to say it!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 20:25:11 GMT
I suspect that a lot of the people slogger knows could be a few sandwiches short of a picnic! No need to discriminate against those with deficient picnics I had 6 Shiphams 'pieces' on the banks of the Misery todee... No strugs , or queers for piggin miles...! The picnic wonner up to much tho'....
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 20, 2014 20:26:39 GMT
No need to discriminate against those with deficient picnics trust me he can't even get a girl because of his ginger hair . He try's chat a girl up they all just take the piss asking if he's got ginger bollocks ect Yes, but you are missing out the happy ending. I know for a fact that he accepted the part of Ron Weasley in the Harry Potter films!
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