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Post by nsd on Apr 19, 2014 20:54:33 GMT
Who do I get in touch with at the club about racist/homophobic abuse? There was a man behind me who had some very choice words about Zaha.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 20:56:57 GMT
Nick griffin?
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Post by slother on Apr 19, 2014 20:58:45 GMT
I'd ring Cardiff. They have the footage if there is any.
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Post by Linx on Apr 19, 2014 21:02:30 GMT
If the person who bought the ticket wasn't the same bloke who sat behind you, identifying him won't be that easy, plus it would be your word against his if no one else has complained. I can't imagine the club will do much based on a single complaint.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 19, 2014 21:05:51 GMT
Best to ring the club and see what they say.
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Post by slother on Apr 19, 2014 21:09:35 GMT
If the person who bought the ticket wasn't the same bloke who sat behind you, identifying him won't be that easy, plus it would be your word against his if no one else has complained. I can't imagine the club will do much based on a single complaint. I'm inclined to agree but I didn't want to be negative. I'm pleased you want to complain and all luck to you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 21:11:13 GMT
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Post by nsd on Apr 19, 2014 22:17:25 GMT
I'll give Cardiff a ring and see if they can look into anything. Worth trying. Thanks.
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Post by chinesedave on Apr 19, 2014 22:54:17 GMT
Who do I get in touch with at the club about racist/homophobic abuse? There was a man behind me who had some very choice words about Zaha. Nobody likes a grass
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Post by nsd on Apr 19, 2014 23:01:07 GMT
If not wanting this fanbase to be associated with that kind of appalling bigotry makes me a grass then yes, I'm a grass. And I don't care if these people don't like me.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 19, 2014 23:03:30 GMT
Who do I get in touch with at the club about racist/homophobic abuse? There was a man behind me who had some very choice words about Zaha. Nobody likes a grass Even less like a real racist.
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Post by cmc89 on Apr 19, 2014 23:07:21 GMT
Who do I get in touch with at the club about racist/homophobic abuse? There was a man behind me who had some very choice words about Zaha. Nobody likes a grass I'm with the OP. If it was something mundane then I wouldn't have much of an issue, but racism is fucking stupid in this day and age. Some fans forget that not everyone lives under a rock like them. Swearing is part and parcel of the terraces but racism can fuck off, if you had a kid at the match, do you want them hearing that?
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Post by block27row27 on Apr 19, 2014 23:47:44 GMT
I think, although racism is disgusting and has no place in today's game, everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt. To be honest, I reckon singing "Kenwyne Jones sells watches on the pitch" is pretty racist, yet the whole stoke end were belting that one out.
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 19, 2014 23:56:13 GMT
Who do I get in touch with at the club about racist/homophobic abuse? There was a man behind me who had some very choice words about Zaha. Nobody likes a grass Nobody likes a racist homophobic either
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Post by nsd on Apr 19, 2014 23:56:13 GMT
I think, although racism is disgusting and has no place in today's game, everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt. To be honest, I reckon singing "Kenwyne Jones sells watches on the pitch" is pretty racist, yet the whole stoke end were belting that one out. However, what I was hearing was Zaha being called coon and nigger (and spear chucker from someone a little further back), which is really pretty cut and dry.
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Post by block27row27 on Apr 19, 2014 23:57:33 GMT
Fair enough then, complete racial hatred is a little different than tongue and cheek casual banter
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Post by craig67 on Apr 20, 2014 0:12:18 GMT
Unfortunately you will still find some posters on here trying to defend it.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 20, 2014 0:47:09 GMT
Unfortunately you will still find some posters on here trying to defend it. "I'm not racist......but...."
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Post by southstanddan on Apr 20, 2014 8:46:13 GMT
How can this be defended? I hope there were no kids in ear shot - especially of the same descent
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 8:51:48 GMT
I think, although racism is disgusting and has no place in today's game, everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt. To be honest, I reckon singing "Kenwyne Jones sells watches on the pitch" is pretty racist, yet the whole stoke end were belting that one out. Thomsons do have some good offers on at the moment to the Canaries by the way .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 8:53:08 GMT
Who do I get in touch with at the club about racist/homophobic abuse? There was a man behind me who had some very choice words about Zaha. Nobody likes a grass Dead right mate. What would happen if someone grassed on Zammo when he was putting that spider on Sir's desk? Someone should throw a sausage on a fork at them all. It'd be chaos.
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Post by slogger on Apr 20, 2014 9:52:06 GMT
If it offended you that much why didn't you walk the the nearest steward and say something or better still turn around and confront him let him no what your thoughts about his conduct and behaviour
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Post by bassmaster on Apr 20, 2014 9:58:24 GMT
If it offended you that much why didn't you walk the the nearest steward and say something or better still turn around and confront him let him no what your thoughts about his conduct and behaviour Some people are non-confrontational. That's cool.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2014 10:00:04 GMT
Was it also racist to call the lovely Welsh people sheep shaggers etc.
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Post by RAF on Apr 20, 2014 10:03:08 GMT
If it offended you that much why didn't you walk the the nearest steward and say something or better still turn around and confront him let him no what your thoughts about his conduct and behaviour We don't all collect for MENCAP outside Boots up Hanley like you Slogger, some of us aren't very good at brawling. H :)
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Post by Gods on Apr 20, 2014 10:11:42 GMT
Was it also racist to call the lovely Welsh people sheep shaggers etc. I'm not sure the Welsh are a race mate. Races are Caucasian (white), Mongoloid ( Japanese, Chinese Korean etc), Asian ( Indian, Pakistani etc), Arab, Negroid (black). Welsh, Irish, English, Swedes, Germans etc are, for the most part all members of the Caucasian race.... but you can also have a Welshman who's a Negroid, a German who's a Mongoloid etc
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 20, 2014 10:15:51 GMT
Was it also racist to call the lovely Welsh people sheep shaggers etc. I'm not sure the Welsh are a race mate. Races are Caucasian (white), Mongoloid ( Japanese, Chinese Korean etc), Asian ( Indian, Pakistani etc), Arab, Negroid (black). Welsh, Irish, English, Swedes, Germans etc are, for the most part all members of the Caucasian race.... but you can also have a Welshman who's a Negroid, a German who's a Mongoloid etc Agreed. Calling the Welsh sheep shaggers is xenophobic not racist.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 10:17:15 GMT
I think, although racism is disgusting and has no place in today's game, everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt. To be honest, I reckon singing "Kenwyne Jones sells watches on the pitch" is pretty racist, yet the whole stoke end were belting that one out. However, what I was hearing was Zaha being called coon and nigger (and spear chucker from someone a little further back), which is really pretty cut and dry. Was this the guy in the blue shirt you're on about? And I'm surprised nothing has been made of the KJ song we sang!
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Post by str8outtahampton on Apr 20, 2014 10:22:54 GMT
I'm not sure the Welsh are a race mate. Races are Caucasian (white), Mongoloid ( Japanese, Chinese Korean etc), Asian ( Indian, Pakistani etc), Arab, Negroid (black). Welsh, Irish, English, Swedes, Germans etc are, for the most part all members of the Caucasian race.... but you can also have a Welshman who's a Negroid, a German who's a Mongoloid etc Agreed. Calling the Welsh sheep shaggers is xenophobic not racist. Nor is it accurate. And worse still, nor is it remotely original or witty. So it's lazy as well. Poor show all round.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 20, 2014 11:13:50 GMT
Was it also racist to call the lovely Welsh people sheep shaggers etc. I'm not sure the Welsh are a race mate. Races are Caucasian (white), Mongoloid ( Japanese, Chinese Korean etc), Asian ( Indian, Pakistani etc), Arab, Negroid (black). Welsh, Irish, English, Swedes, Germans etc are, for the most part all members of the Caucasian race.... but you can also have a Welshman who's a Negroid, a German who's a Mongoloid etc
Yep the Welsh are not a race but in the eyes of the law, 'race' has a much broader definition.
"The RRA defines ‘racial grounds’ as being on the grounds of colour, race, nationality or ethnic or national origins."
For example it would be breaking the race discrimination laws if a publican in Wrexham advertised a job for a Welsh bar person.
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