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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 24, 2014 9:39:29 GMT
Massive credit to the manager for getting such a tune out of the players then. absolutely Jamo ...but always a sense of realism that... The squad wasn't shit Hughes was backed We already had a good forward The nucleus of the squad wasn't shit, just devoid of pace and ideas. He wasn't backed properly unless £5m is now "backing". Crouch has always been a good player if you play players with pace and invention around him (I've always liked Crouch save for the spell where he lost his mojo after being twatted in the mouth and I questioned whether he was still up for it).
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Post by jonnybravo on Mar 24, 2014 9:52:23 GMT
Well I'm loving having steak and chips with mark hughes rather than we've got remember where we've come from and we've never had it so good tripe and chips from pulis
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 24, 2014 9:54:39 GMT
Dear Mark I have to say that I was simply stunned yet again. Back to back wins with barely a long ball in sight in either game. Wonderful passing football from a group that was certainly struggling with it a few games back. I'm simply astounded at the transformation in such a short space of time and I bow to your prediction of finishing the season strongly. We really look the business and it is thoroughly enjoyable and exciting to watch. ...now for the stains. Yep, I've had a little look at the board and I'm sure I will wander on to a few of those threads later. Maybe your posts would have a touch more credibility if you were posting such 'things' a month or 2 back. I seem to remember many of as worried as the Rimmers - predicting no more than 40 points and there was no fucking gloating of cocks off after the Sunderland game. If there is a man to credited with knowing what the future held it was Hughes - not you fucking wankers. Enjoy your days in the sun though...I hope they continue for a long, long time yet. You talk as if that performance yesterday came completely out of the blue.A 4-1 scoreline will always make the headlines,but we've played as well as that at Newcastle,Sunderland and Fulham this season and got no rewards.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 24, 2014 9:58:20 GMT
Great post, calling Stokies f***ing w*nkers the day after a 4-1 away win. You know how you can hide a posters posts? Can you do the same with threads started by certain posters?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 10:06:23 GMT
Can I become a rimstain?.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 10:07:16 GMT
Great post, calling Stokies f***ing w*nkers the day after a 4-1 away win. You know how you can hide a posters posts? Can you do the same with threads started by certain posters? You come across as though he doesn't anyway.
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 24, 2014 10:16:59 GMT
Merk, only a thread entitled "We Apologise for Doubting Denise's Axe- We Can't Help Knowing Fuck All" with signatures from yourself, Stafford, Tazi, March and other 'high ranking' Rimmers shall do.
Oh, and a photoshopped picture of yourselves bowing down to Denise and licking shit off her dominatrix boots as well.
Then we can put all this nonsense to bed and finally move on.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Mar 24, 2014 10:22:02 GMT
One thing I do genuinely wonder today is what would Pulis have made of the game watching MOTD 2 with his old players:
1) Palacios playing 90 minutes in a windy game 2) Nzonzi breaking up the field to score 3) Geoff Cameron appearing on the left side penalty area to score 4) Shawcross raking cross-field passes to players other than Crouch 5) No Jon Walters 6) Not parking the bus when winning 3-1 away from home
Im genuinely curious if it would make him wonder about his own techniques, especially away from home.
Probably not is the answer which is a shame, cuz if he just had some more balls at times he would be a top manager
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Post by mcf on Mar 24, 2014 10:25:27 GMT
Dear Mark I have to say that I was simply stunned yet again. Back to back wins with barely a long ball in sight in either game. Wonderful passing football from a group that was certainly struggling with it a few games back. I'm simply astounded at the transformation in such a short space of time and I bow to your prediction of finishing the season strongly. We really look the business and it is thoroughly enjoyable and exciting to watch. ...now for the stains. Yep, I've had a little look at the board and I'm sure I will wander on to a few of those threads later. Maybe your posts would have a touch more credibility if you were posting such 'things' a month or 2 back. I seem to remember many of as worried as the Rimmers - predicting no more than 40 points and there was no fucking gloating of cocks off after the Sunderland game. If there is a man to credited with knowing what the future held it was Hughes - not you fucking wankers. Enjoy your days in the sun though...I hope they continue for a long, long time yet. You talk as if that performance yesterday came completely out of the blue.A 4-1 scoreline will always make the headlines,but we've played as well as that at Newcastle,Sunderland and Fulham this season and got no rewards. Well, the last 2 performances come pretty much out of the blue for myself. Not the results but definitely the performances. Prior to the home game v The Shit I think much of our passing football didn't really come off and that is why we went much more direct from that point on.
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Post by mcf on Mar 24, 2014 10:27:44 GMT
Merk, only a thread entitled "We Apologise for Doubting Denise's Axe- We Can't Help Knowing Fuck All" with signatures from yourself, Stafford, Tazi, March and other 'high ranking' Rimmers shall do. Oh, and a photoshopped picture of yourselves bowing down to Denise and licking shit off her dominatrix boots as well. Then we can put all this nonsense to bed and finally move on. .... then you might be waiting sometime. Besides, I said a good manager bringing in the right players with the core group would break the top 10
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Post by salopstick on Mar 24, 2014 11:02:58 GMT
Well, the last 2 performances come pretty much out of the blue for myself. Not the results but definitely the performances. Prior to the home game v The Shit I think much of our passing football didn't really come off and that is why we went much more direct from that point on. because you dont realise the season is a marathon not a sprint and any club that changes manager will need time to get everything right how he wants it. it will take another season before it is a complete hughes team not just in personnel but style of play change in football especially at a club likes us does not happen overnight. a great quote from the capped one which is relevant always along the line of " dont get too excited when we win but dont get too depressed when we lose" in a 38 game season where we will we average 45 ish points we will always lose lots of games, play shit for lots of games but we will always win games and always play well in some games. the key is to have some sort of balance through out the season and not come on here saying "i told you so" after one or two games because you end up looking stupid.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 24, 2014 11:17:37 GMT
Dear Mark ...now for the stains. Yep, I've had a little look at the board and I'm sure I will wander on to a few of those threads later. Maybe your posts would have a touch more credibility if you were posting such 'things' a month or 2 back. I seem to remember many of as worried as the Rimmers - predicting no more than 40 points and there was no fucking gloating of cocks off after the Sunderland game. If there is a man to credited with knowing what the future held it was Hughes - not you fucking wankers. Enjoy your days in the sun though...I hope they continue for a long, long time yet. Was this whilst you were claiming that Hughes was adopting a similar approach to the shite we have watched in recent seasons?
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Post by mcf on Mar 24, 2014 11:17:47 GMT
Well, the last 2 performances come pretty much out of the blue for myself. Not the results but definitely the performances. Prior to the home game v The Shit I think much of our passing football didn't really come off and that is why we went much more direct from that point on. because you dont realise the season is a marathon not a sprint and any club that changes manager will need time to get everything right how he wants it. it will take another season before it is a complete hughes team not just in personnel but style of play change in football especially at a club likes us does not happen overnight. a great quote from the capped one which is relevant always along the line of " dont get too excited when we win but dont get too depressed when we lose" in a 38 game season where we will we average 45 ish points we will always lose lots of games, play shit for lots of games but we will always win games and always play well in some games. the key is to have some sort of balance through out the season and not come on here saying "i told you so" after one or two games because you end up looking stupid. I thought it would be a marathon and not a sprint and that is why I was surprised how much he change the style so early on. Up until the change of more direct tactics against ManU were around 1 point per game - even the hardcore PHWs were predicting less than 40 points. It wasn't a case of 'I told you so' but something had to change...and it did. Fair play to him, he's producing some absolutely quality football at the moment with superb results.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 11:18:40 GMT
Dear Mark ...now for the stains. Yep, I've had a little look at the board and I'm sure I will wander on to a few of those threads later. Maybe your posts would have a touch more credibility if you were posting such 'things' a month or 2 back. I seem to remember many of as worried as the Rimmers - predicting no more than 40 points and there was no fucking gloating of cocks off after the Sunderland game. If there is a man to credited with knowing what the future held it was Hughes - not you fucking wankers. Enjoy your days in the sun though...I hope they continue for a long, long time yet. Was this whilst you were claiming that Hughes was adopting a similar approach to the shite we have watched in recent seasons? Shitbin this thread. You have the power!!
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Post by mcf on Mar 24, 2014 11:20:47 GMT
Was this whilst you were claiming that Hughes was adopting a similar approach to the shite we have watched in recent seasons? Shitbin this thread. You have the power!! Now that he's posted on it...there is every chance of an anchor
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 24, 2014 11:24:04 GMT
Shitbin this thread. You have the power!! Now that he's posted on it...there is every chance of an anchor Not a prayer. This one remains as your tribute and benchmark.
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Post by mcf on Mar 24, 2014 11:25:39 GMT
Now that he's posted on it...there is every chance of an anchor Not a prayer. This one remains as your tribute and benchmark. How odd...'when they are all the same'.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 12:25:47 GMT
One thing I do genuinely wonder today is what would Pulis have made of the game watching MOTD 2 with his old players: 1) Palacios playing 90 minutes in a windy game 2) Nzonzi breaking up the field to score 3) Geoff Cameron appearing on the left side penalty area to score 4) Shawcross raking cross-field passes to players other than Crouch 5) No Jon Walters 6) Not parking the bus when winning 3-1 away from home Im genuinely curious if it would make him wonder about his own techniques, especially away from home. Probably not is the answer which is a shame, cuz if he just had some more balls at times he would be a top manager It's an interesting point that Matt, I always felt as though we "nicked" our way into the Prem and maybe Pulis thought the same. But after 5 years he was still in the same mindset; just too cautious. It's been a really painful season in so many respects and nobody was sure how it was going to end up, but it looks like once again Peter Coates has played a blinder. However, much Stoke respect must go to Tony, but MH has given us all a thrill this season - he's earned the right to takeover for me, we bear little resemblance to the side that was clinging on for dear life this time last year. Still, we need at least 42pts to be 100%, so it's not done just yet. I only hope that TP he can keep Palace up so we can pay our full and proper Stoke respect to one of the greatest SCFC managers in living memory. He will get one hell of a reception and there will be a few tears, even from the glass eyes of his most ardent critics.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 24, 2014 12:35:50 GMT
One thing I do genuinely wonder today is what would Pulis have made of the game watching MOTD 2 with his old players: 1) Palacios playing 90 minutes in a windy game 2) Nzonzi breaking up the field to score 3) Geoff Cameron appearing on the left side penalty area to score 4) Shawcross raking cross-field passes to players other than Crouch 5) No Jon Walters 6) Not parking the bus when winning 3-1 away from home Im genuinely curious if it would make him wonder about his own techniques, especially away from home. Probably not is the answer which is a shame, cuz if he just had some more balls at times he would be a top manager It's an interesting point that Matt, I always felt as though we "nicked" our way into the Prem and maybe Pulis thought the same. But after 5 years he was still in the same mindset; just too cautious. It's been a really painful season in so many respects and nobody was sure how it was going to end up, but it looks like once again Peter Coates has played a blinder. However, much Stoke respect must go to Tony, but MH has given us all a thrill this season - he's earned the right to takeover for me, we bear little resemblance to the side that was clinging on for dear life this time last year. Still, we need at least 42pts to be 100%, so it's not done just yet. I only hope that TP he can keep Palace up so we can pay our full and proper Stoke respect to one of the greatest SCFC managers in living memory. He will get one hell of a reception and there will be a few tears, even from the glass eyes of his most ardent critics.Wanna bet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 12:37:28 GMT
It's an interesting point that Matt, I always felt as though we "nicked" our way into the Prem and maybe Pulis thought the same. But after 5 years he was still in the same mindset; just too cautious. It's been a really painful season in so many respects and nobody was sure how it was going to end up, but it looks like once again Peter Coates has played a blinder. However, much Stoke respect must go to Tony, but MH has given us all a thrill this season - he's earned the right to takeover for me, we bear little resemblance to the side that was clinging on for dear life this time last year. Still, we need at least 42pts to be 100%, so it's not done just yet. I only hope that TP he can keep Palace up so we can pay our full and proper Stoke respect to one of the greatest SCFC managers in living memory. He will get one hell of a reception and there will be a few tears, even from the glass eyes of his most ardent critics.Wanna bet. Yes, i'll take a fiver on you applauding. Reluctantly...of course.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 24, 2014 12:39:04 GMT
Yes, i'll take a fiver on you applauding. Reluctantly...of course. Save your money mate!!!!!
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Post by mcf on Mar 24, 2014 12:41:35 GMT
Yes, i'll take a fiver on you applauding. Reluctantly...of course. Save your money mate!!!!! What a way to bring up my half century Pugs ...always good for the averages
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 13:02:40 GMT
Merk, only a thread entitled "We Apologise for Doubting Denise's Axe- We Can't Help Knowing Fuck All" with signatures from yourself, Stafford, Tazi, March and other 'high ranking' Rimmers shall do. Oh, and a photoshopped picture of yourselves bowing down to Denise and licking shit off her dominatrix boots as well. Then we can put all this nonsense to bed and finally move on. Wat? I've been saving up 8 years worth of this nonsenseWhat will I do with it all, if we all move on? I'll be left drowning in a sea of ungrateful, classless drivel. It's just not ****ing fair
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 13:06:26 GMT
Certainly much concern in January though wasn't there? The squad's shit... Hughes wasn't backed... We need a forward... I think a lot of that's still true.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Mar 24, 2014 13:07:50 GMT
Its funny because at Crystal Palace the first few games he played, he was quite attacking (even away at Chelsea they were threatening to score most of the game).
He seemed to be having some early success at CP.
Now though he's gone back to his binary football and they havent won for 7 games or so.
The guy is scared of attacking despite all of the evidence to the contrary.
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Post by mcf on Mar 24, 2014 13:12:58 GMT
Certainly much concern in January though wasn't there? The squad's shit... Hughes wasn't backed... We need a forward... I think a lot of that's still true. Possibly...the main point being that he had a lot more to play with than the plethora of wankstains made out. He was left with plenty of good players...and Hughes has done very, very well with them in the last few games. He was backed enough considering the players we already had here could provide the core - in no way am I underestimating the contribution of Ireland, Odem, Arnie (of late) and Assaidi. Crouch has been perfectly fine as an all round top quality forward.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 13:17:41 GMT
I think a lot of that's still true. Possibly...the main point being that he had a lot more to play with than the plethora of wankstains made out. He was left with plenty of good players...and Hughes has done very, very well with them in the last few games. He was backed enough considering the players we already had here could provide the core - in no way am I underestimating the contribution of Ireland, Odem, Arnie (of late) and Assaidi. Crouch has been perfectly fine as an all round top quality forward. I was certainly guilty of thinking the squad was worse than it was. I still think we're short in a few key areas but hopefully that'll be put right in the summer.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Mar 24, 2014 13:23:26 GMT
Its funny because at Crystal Palace the first few games he played, he was quite attacking (even away at Chelsea they were threatening to score most of the game). He seemed to be having some early success at CP. Now though he's gone back to his binary football and they havent won for 7 games or so. The guy is scared of attacking despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Absolutely this. Its surprising as he has some decent flair players in that squad. Bolasie looks a real decent player.
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Post by mcf on Mar 24, 2014 13:25:19 GMT
Possibly...the main point being that he had a lot more to play with than the plethora of wankstains made out. He was left with plenty of good players...and Hughes has done very, very well with them in the last few games. He was backed enough considering the players we already had here could provide the core - in no way am I underestimating the contribution of Ireland, Odem, Arnie (of late) and Assaidi. Crouch has been perfectly fine as an all round top quality forward. I was certainly guilty of thinking the squad was worse than it was. I still think we're short in a few key areas but hopefully that'll be put right in the summer. Exciting times.....
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 24, 2014 13:35:30 GMT
Possibly...the main point being that he had a lot more to play with than the plethora of wankstains made out. He was left with plenty of good players...and Hughes has done very, very well with them in the last few games. He was backed enough considering the players we already had here could provide the core - in no way am I underestimating the contribution of Ireland, Odem, Arnie (of late) and Assaidi. Crouch has been perfectly fine as an all round top quality forward. I was certainly guilty of thinking the squad was worse than it was. I still think we're short in a few key areas but hopefully that'll be put right in the summer. I think after watching players' effectiveness diminished by the idiotic tactics that were often deployed, it's natural that many people eventually began to doubt the quality of the squad. The most obvious example of a player who has thrived under Hughes is Crouch. However, there are more of the Pulis old guard who've also been revitalised- Cameron, Whelan, Adam, N'Zonzi etc. The Rimmers will try to use that as evidence that TP made excellent signings- which is true- but what it highlights for me is that TP was such a tactical ignoramus (at times) that he managed to turn a few silk purses into sow's ears through his ridiculous tactics.
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