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Post by numpty40 on Mar 17, 2014 18:02:26 GMT
I know it's highly unlikely that Crouch will feature but he is in the best run of form since he came to Stoke. People are banging their gums about a call up for Carroll who hasn't played for the majority of the season and is always prone to collect an injury tying his boot laces. Defoe has hardly played all season and is now plying his trade in the equivalent of the PDSL. I think Crouch is more deserving of a call up than either of these two personally.
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 17, 2014 18:02:42 GMT
I know it's highly unlikely that Crouch will feature but he is in the best run of form since he came to Stoke. People are banging their gums about a call up for Carroll who hasn't played for the majority of the season and is always prone to collect an injury tying his boot laces. Defoe has hardly played all season and is now plying his trade in the equivalent of the PDSL. I think Crouch is more deserving of a call up than either of these two personally.
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Post by jmst4 on Mar 17, 2014 18:06:37 GMT
No chance, the squad is already decided and with so few friendly left until the competition things are not going to change. I certainly wouldn't want him playing for England anyway, he isn''t international quality (not that stops some getting a call-up).
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Post by Mezza on Mar 17, 2014 18:08:41 GMT
Crouch is too old, we need to be looking to the future so I wouldn't take him. That saying I wouldn't take Carroll either. Other than his goal I forgot he was on the pitch for the majority of the game.
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Post by cmc89 on Mar 17, 2014 18:11:35 GMT
Crouch is too old, we need to be looking to the future so I wouldn't take him. That saying I wouldn't take Carroll either. Other than his goal I forgot he was on the pitch for the majority of the game. He was stood next to the referee for most of it.
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Post by werrington on Mar 17, 2014 18:22:16 GMT
Best run of form. !!!!
Not for me......give me Andy Carroll every time
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Post by Roy Cropper on Mar 17, 2014 18:28:48 GMT
I thought Carroll looked good on Saturday, personally.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 17, 2014 18:42:57 GMT
Crouch is rightly nowhere near the England squad. Based soley on Saturday surely anyone can see why Carroll would be preferred to Crouch.
I'd have Lambert, Rodriguez, Carroll, Sturridge, Rooney and Defoe ahead of Crouch at least. Its about the only thing I agree with Hodgson on.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Mar 17, 2014 18:48:33 GMT
Crouch isn't strong enough, quick enough, mobile enough.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 18:59:42 GMT
While Hodgson is manager, no stoke player will play for England.
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Post by wrighter on Mar 17, 2014 19:02:18 GMT
only 2 problems 1. Woy 2 Stoke City sadly, no chance of going, different if he played for Arsenal/L"pool.Man City/ Manure
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Post by werrington on Mar 17, 2014 19:02:43 GMT
Crouch isn't strong enough, quick enough, mobile enough. In a nutshell
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Post by mickmacc on Mar 17, 2014 19:05:10 GMT
Peter Crouch. 86 premiership goals.22 in 40 appearances for England.Andy Carroll? 28 premiership goals IN TOTAL!.Crouch is the same player he's always been.He's like Sheringham.Never had any pace to
lose .His goalscoring frankly has diminished due to the quality of service.If he was still playing for Liverpool and England I suspect his return would be the same.However that shouldn't put off those with
an agenda criticising him everytime a poster praises him! God forbid.
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Post by werrington on Mar 17, 2014 19:06:36 GMT
Peter Crouch. 86 premiership goals.22 in 40 appearances for England.Andy Carroll? 28 premiership goals IN TOTAL!.Crouch is the same player he's always been.He's like Sheringham.Never had any pace to lose .His goalscoring frankly has diminished due to the quality of service.If he was still playing for Liverpool and England I suspect his return would be the same.However that shouldn't put off those with an agenda criticising him everytime a poster praises him! God forbid. RIP.....opinions
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 19:08:38 GMT
Peter Crouch. 86 premiership goals.22 in 40 appearances for England.Andy Carroll? 28 premiership goals IN TOTAL!.Crouch is the same player he's always been.He's like Sheringham.Never had any pace to lose .His goalscoring frankly has diminished due to the quality of service.If he was still playing for Liverpool and England I suspect his return would be the same.However that shouldn't put off those with an agenda criticising him everytime a poster praises him! God forbid. Crouch has played loads more games than Carroll hasn't he though? He's right years older for starters. Not a massively fair comparison.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 17, 2014 19:13:14 GMT
I agree with the Op and Mic. Perhaps not as first choice striker but coming off the bench and given the right service I believe that he is still capable at holding his own at International level. He is playing well at the moment and i couldn't have seen many players getting his /Odemwinge's first goal on Saturday.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Mar 17, 2014 19:32:00 GMT
I thought Carroll looked good on Saturday, personally. Yes me too, but what an arsehole, P.S. Not you Andy Carroll
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 17, 2014 19:47:15 GMT
I think we need one target man there in Brazil. However, Carroll and Lambert are both well ahead of Crouchy in the pecking order, and rightly so. If both of them got injured though, I think there's more merit in taking Crouch than, say, Jay Rodriguez.
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Post by onionman on Mar 17, 2014 19:56:27 GMT
Play him up front with Rooney in a Jon Walters mask.
It'll be like waking up from a bad nightmare only to realise the situation going on in your bedroom is even worse than the nightmare you've just escaped from.
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 17, 2014 20:08:51 GMT
I don't actually agree about Woy and Stoke, I'm bored with the angry inferiority complex tbh - while we were playing Pulisball, when it was impossible to see what most players were capable of, Woy still gave Ryan a shot. There'd need to be an injury crisis to give either Crocuhy or Ryan a recall but I wouldn't 100% rule either out. Just 95%...
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Post by werrington on Mar 17, 2014 20:11:26 GMT
Crouch burnt his bridges when he refused to go on a standby list for euro12
I think people on here forget that
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 17, 2014 20:12:51 GMT
Crouch burnt his bridges when he refused to go on a standby list for euro12 I think people on here forget that Must admit I had, good point!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 17, 2014 20:16:14 GMT
Peter Crouch. 86 premiership goals.22 in 40 appearances for England.Andy Carroll? 28 premiership goals IN TOTAL!.Crouch is the same player he's always been.He's like Sheringham.Never had any pace to lose .His goalscoring frankly has diminished due to the quality of service.If he was still playing for Liverpool and England I suspect his return would be the same.However that shouldn't put off those with an agenda criticising him everytime a poster praises him! God forbid. There's a reason he isn't playing for Liverpool anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 20:33:50 GMT
It wanna that long ago when "Crouchy for England" was reverberating around the Brit you fickle set of two faced friggers
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Post by mickmacc on Mar 17, 2014 20:44:47 GMT
Peter Crouch. 86 premiership goals.22 in 40 appearances for England.Andy Carroll? 28 premiership goals IN TOTAL!.Crouch is the same player he's always been.He's like Sheringham.Never had any pace to lose .His goalscoring frankly has diminished due to the quality of service.If he was still playing for Liverpool and England I suspect his return would be the same.However that shouldn't put off those with an agenda criticising him everytime a poster praises him! God forbid. Crouch has played loads more games than Carroll hasn't he though? He's right years older for starters. Not a massively fair comparison. Can you honestly see Carroll ever getting a I in 2 ratio for England and scoring in a world cup finals?Or scoring in the San Siro or playing in a champions league final?
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 17, 2014 21:09:05 GMT
Crouch has played loads more games than Carroll hasn't he though? He's right years older for starters. Not a massively fair comparison. Can you honestly see Carroll ever getting a I in 2 ratio for England and scoring in a world cup finals?Or scoring in the San Siro or playing in a champions league final? It's a stupid comparison though. In any case, Carroll scored for England in the Euro 2012 finals. The main problem here is that Crouch is 34...I couldn't see him playing in a Champions League final now either. No argument that, at his best, Crouch was better than Carroll is now, but how good he was in 2004 isn't going to help us in 2014 is it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 21:27:58 GMT
Crouch has played loads more games than Carroll hasn't he though? He's right years older for starters. Not a massively fair comparison. Can you honestly see Carroll ever getting a I in 2 ratio for England and scoring in a world cup finals?Or scoring in the San Siro or playing in a champions league final? Djimi Traore played in a Champions League final. By your logic that makes him a better left back than, say, Stuart Pearce. Crouch has a great record for England but a lot of his goals came against the minnows of the world. It's a fine record but I don't see what relevance it has in 2014 when there are younger, more mobile options out there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 21:32:40 GMT
If Andy Carroll is the answer then i'd love to know what the question is. He's just not an international footballer at any level. If he's there for "nuisance value" then christ on a bike.
Crouch is the better player but he also is not an international footballer either.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 17, 2014 21:38:57 GMT
The England bird has long since flown but deployed correctly, he remains a very, very good player as evidenced on Saturday. The fact he has no pace to lose means he could easily have another 2 1/2 years in him.
The amount of utter turd spouted about him on here at times beggars belief, particularly about this deal bankrupting the poor old Billionaire family.
At an initial £10M this club has touched fists on far worse deals.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 21:47:07 GMT
If Andy Carroll is the answer then i'd love to know what the question is. He's just not an international footballer at any level. If he's there for "nuisance value" then christ on a bike. Crouch is the better player but he also is not an international footballer either. I still think there's a place for a big awkward lump to chuck on with 15 minutes to go, and he's the best awkward lump we've got.
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