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Post by Clem Fandango on Mar 12, 2014 21:32:23 GMT
well the bbc are reporting that the chinese have spotted some suspected wreckage from satellite imagery.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 12, 2014 21:52:41 GMT
My conspiracy is that it was accidently shot down and there is an ensuing cover up.
It's based on nothing more than when I first heard the news, I thought it might have been shot down accidentally with all of the military shit going down there. The fannying around after the event just makes me think that it could have happened. It probably didn't but that's my theory anyway!
Bloody weird episode though.
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Post by cartman123 on Mar 12, 2014 23:38:17 GMT
Looks like the chinese may have found it. Makes sense it being in the South China Sea. What's likely happened, is slow decompression has occured rendering all aboard unconscious and the plane has continued on its designated flight plan before finally coming down in the middle of the ocean.
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Post by britsabroad on Mar 13, 2014 0:59:55 GMT
Looks like the chinese may have found it. Makes sense it being in the South China Sea. What's likely happened, is slow decompression has occured rendering all aboard unconscious and the plane has continued on its designated flight plan before finally coming down in the middle of the ocean. If that had happened, it had enough fuel to have made land. Seems odd Malaysian has released all passenger names but refuses to release the cargo list.
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Post by cartman123 on Mar 13, 2014 12:58:58 GMT
Looks like the chinese may have found it. Makes sense it being in the South China Sea. What's likely happened, is slow decompression has occured rendering all aboard unconscious and the plane has continued on its designated flight plan before finally coming down in the middle of the ocean. If that had happened, it had enough fuel to have made land. Seems odd Malaysian has released all passenger names but refuses to release the cargo list. How could it make land if the crew were unconscious?
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Post by greenhoff74 on Mar 13, 2014 13:15:46 GMT
Now the Chinese are saying that there was no debris in the satellite images and their release was a mistake.!!
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Post by Clem Fandango on Mar 13, 2014 14:14:28 GMT
If that had happened, it had enough fuel to have made land. Seems odd Malaysian has released all passenger names but refuses to release the cargo list. How could it make land if the crew were unconscious? I think Britsaboard means that the plane would have ran out of fuel over land rather than the ocean. If it was on its designated flight path that would have taken it over land. If the pilots had turned off the flight path and then pointed it at open ocean then it would have come down over the sea.
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Post by britsabroad on Mar 13, 2014 14:21:03 GMT
If that had happened, it had enough fuel to have made land. Seems odd Malaysian has released all passenger names but refuses to release the cargo list. How could it make land if the crew were unconscious? It would just keep flying on its own. If it was on its original course it would run out of fuel over mainland China.
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Post by redsaturday on Mar 13, 2014 16:20:01 GMT
If that had happened, it had enough fuel to have made land. Seems odd Malaysian has released all passenger names but refuses to release the cargo list. How could it make land if the crew were unconscious?
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Post by zigazaga on Mar 13, 2014 16:23:14 GMT
Anyone seen the Langoliers?
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Post by prudhoe on Mar 13, 2014 22:17:53 GMT
Looks like the chinese may have found it. Makes sense it being in the South China Sea. What's likely happened, is slow decompression has occured rendering all aboard unconscious and the plane has continued on its designated flight plan before finally coming down in the middle of the ocean. And how would that explain the trasponder being turned off/stopped working? If the crew simply passed out and the plane kept on flying the transponder would of carried on transmitting their position. This has happened before. Google Helios flight 522. Air traffic control still had sight of the jet and fighter jets were scrambled to go to it. Even tho contact with crew was lost as they were all unconcious. Another thing thats for certain is whereever this plane has gone down, it definately wasnt on its designated course. That area has been searched over and over. It definately has veered off course which a decompression wouldnt of caused. The only explaination that adds up is this was a deliberate act. Pilot or someone who got into the cockpit hijacked the plane. Flew it off course for possibly hours. Switched off transponder. flew at low altituted to avoid radar. Then deliberately crashed it into the sea somewhere where the search parties havent even thought about looking. That would explain transponder switched off, no mayday call and no sign of the wreckage.
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Post by cartman123 on Mar 14, 2014 12:07:29 GMT
Looks like the chinese may have found it. Makes sense it being in the South China Sea. What's likely happened, is slow decompression has occured rendering all aboard unconscious and the plane has continued on its designated flight plan before finally coming down in the middle of the ocean. And how would that explain the trasponder being turned off/stopped working? If the crew simply passed out and the plane kept on flying the transponder would of carried on transmitting their position. This has happened before. Google Helios flight 522. Air traffic control still had sight of the jet and fighter jets were scrambled to go to it. Even tho contact with crew was lost as they were all unconcious. Another thing thats for certain is whereever this plane has gone down, it definately wasnt on its designated course. That area has been searched over and over. It definately has veered off course which a decompression wouldnt of caused. The only explaination that adds up is this was a deliberate act. Pilot or someone who got into the cockpit hijacked the plane. Flew it off course for possibly hours. Switched off transponder. flew at low altituted to avoid radar. Then deliberately crashed it into the sea somewhere where the search parties havent even thought about looking. That would explain transponder switched off, no mayday call and no sign of the wreckage. And what would be the point of hijacking a plane to crash it into the sea? And if it had been hijacked surely the pilots would've let atc know? Pilot suicide sounds plausible. Either way, it's a joke the malayasian millitart didn't scramble jets to investigate the unidentified aircraft they spotted.
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Post by britsabroad on Mar 14, 2014 14:53:31 GMT
And how would that explain the trasponder being turned off/stopped working? If the crew simply passed out and the plane kept on flying the transponder would of carried on transmitting their position. This has happened before. Google Helios flight 522. Air traffic control still had sight of the jet and fighter jets were scrambled to go to it. Even tho contact with crew was lost as they were all unconcious. Another thing thats for certain is whereever this plane has gone down, it definately wasnt on its designated course. That area has been searched over and over. It definately has veered off course which a decompression wouldnt of caused. The only explaination that adds up is this was a deliberate act. Pilot or someone who got into the cockpit hijacked the plane. Flew it off course for possibly hours. Switched off transponder. flew at low altituted to avoid radar. Then deliberately crashed it into the sea somewhere where the search parties havent even thought about looking. That would explain transponder switched off, no mayday call and no sign of the wreckage. And what would be the point of hijacking a plane to crash it into the sea? And if it had been hijacked surely the pilots would've let atc know? Pilot suicide sounds plausible. Either way, it's a joke the malayasian millitart didn't scramble jets to investigate the unidentified aircraft they spotted. Looks increasingly like one of the pilots was in on it... if it did crash into the sea maybe there was a fight and subsequent loss of control. Maybe it hasn't crashed at all. God knows. Military radar works differently to civilian radar. Everything is unidentified, and anything flying on a commercial jet path at high altitude is generally ignored as a civilian aircraft.
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Post by prudhoe on Mar 15, 2014 2:09:11 GMT
And what would be the point of hijacking a plane to crash it into the sea? And if it had been hijacked surely the pilots would've let atc know? Pilot suicide sounds plausible. Either way, it's a joke the malayasian millitart didn't scramble jets to investigate the unidentified aircraft they spotted. Looks increasingly like one of the pilots was in on it... if it did crash into the sea maybe there was a fight and subsequent loss of control. Maybe it hasn't crashed at all. God knows. Military radar works differently to civilian radar. Everything is unidentified, and anything flying on a commercial jet path at high altitude is generally ignored as a civilian aircraft. At the moment the reasons why someone would do that god knows. But it has happened before. Silk Air and Egypt Air crashes were both deliberate by a pilot commiting suicide. The only thing that doesn't add up is there are reports that the plane maybe was still flying 4 or 5 hours after contact was lost. You would think once whoever it was who took over control would crash it straight away. Altho there is also the possibilty they didnt intend to crash. Maybe they hijacked the plane and tried to fly it to somewhere but it ran out of fuel before they got there.
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Post by greenhoff74 on Mar 15, 2014 9:23:08 GMT
New York Times is saying that the Latest Data is pointing to a struggle for control of the aircraft, the plane climbs and loses altitude for a while but the heading remains steady.
Another staggering development is apparently on these aircraft the avionics, transponder etc can be turned off without ever getting access to the cockpit, all it needs is a special screwdriver to gain access.
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Post by krazy on Mar 15, 2014 9:32:45 GMT
Reading the latest rumours on the pilot website (see page 2 of this thread) and they are now discussing in more detail the hijack / stolen plane theory. Possibility of it landing and unloaded and have been flown for 7 hours after signal lost
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Post by ukcstokie on Mar 15, 2014 10:39:41 GMT
So it looks like now that the transponders and other tracking devices were deliberately turned off and the plane may have continued for 7 hours or so.
Therefore it looks like: - it's a deliberate calculated act - if you wanted to destroy the plane why would you fly for so long after the take over - could it possibly be landed somewhere and the passengers be OK?
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 15, 2014 11:24:34 GMT
It's also come out that there was 20 warfare experts on board as well!
The plot thickens.
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Post by gazscfc on Mar 15, 2014 11:33:27 GMT
Apparently the families of some of the 'missing' passengers have said that they have tried calling their loved ones and their phones are ringing!? My personal theory is that the plane has been nicked, along with all passengers on board. I think terrorists hijacked it, cut off all communications and turned back and landed it somewhere. Then in a few weeks they will take off again and do something awful. You heard it here first
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 12:39:43 GMT
Apparently the families of some of the 'missing' passengers have said that they have tried calling their loved ones and their phones are ringing!? My personal theory is that the plane has been nicked, along with all passengers on board. I think terrorists hijacked it, cut off all communications and turned back and landed it somewhere. Then in a few weeks they will take off again and do something awful. You heard it here first "Another passenger on the way to a new job was mechanical engineer Paul Weeks from New Zealand.
The former soldier moved his family to Perth, Australia, after the devastating earthquakes in Christchurch, reports say.
Before he left home, he took off his wedding ring and watch and gave them to his wife for his two young sons."From here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26503469I've started quite a few new jobs, in my time, I have never been quite that concerned about what it was I was going to do, though ... Almost whatever happens now (and your imagination can truly run wild), the movie will be big box office ...
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Mar 15, 2014 12:47:44 GMT
"Another passenger on the way to a new job was mechanical engineer Paul Weeks from New Zealand.
The former soldier moved his family to Perth, Australia, after the devastating earthquakes in Christchurch, reports say.
Before he left home, he took off his wedding ring and watch and gave them to his wife for his two young sons."From here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26503469I've started quite a few new jobs, in my time, I have never been quite that concerned about what it was I was going to do, though ... Almost whatever happens now (and your imagination can truly run wild), the movie will be big box office ... The film will be full of Americans too...
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Post by cartman123 on Mar 15, 2014 17:09:29 GMT
Looks to be a hijacking, one which the pilots are in on. Very scary stuff. Wonder if the passengers are still alive?
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Post by redsaturday on Mar 15, 2014 18:36:35 GMT
Looks to be a hijacking, one which the pilots are in on. Very scary stuff. Wonder if the passengers are still alive? Only if they can breathe under water
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2014 19:18:23 GMT
If it flew on which it looks like it did and it was hijacked, which again looks quite likely and it hasn't crashed (nobody knows), we must assume it's somewhere in the Indian Ocean or Eastern Africa, if had enough fuel. Because if it had flown over India, Afghan ie any country who would protect their airspace wouldn't they know about it?
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Post by krazy on Mar 15, 2014 20:02:18 GMT
If it flew on which it looks like it did and it was hijacked, which again looks quite likely and it hasn't crashed (nobody knows), we must assume it's somewhere in the Indian Ocean or Eastern Africa, if had enough fuel. Because if it had flown over India, Afghan ie any country who would protect their airspace wouldn't they know about it? Read somewhere that if it was heading to Somalia or somewhere similar, all ocean to get there plus limited to no ability to protect their own airspace.... Like its been said, regardless of the outcome, the Americans can make a film or two from this and no doubt an all action hero could A) be a saviour on the plane B) could jump from one plane to land on the hyjacked plañe, beat up the baddies and eñd up with the pretty air hostess C) confirm they are actually in purgatory but lead them into the light (a la Lost)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2014 20:38:48 GMT
Yeah and with those Al Kebab fuckers out there, it'd make sense, if it could get there. What a strange episode this all is.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Mar 16, 2014 12:11:24 GMT
Some government knows something, there are other tracking devices that could not be disabled
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 17:56:03 GMT
Have Rolls Royce released any details yet?
They'll know the last time the plane was flying due to the live feedback on the Jet Engine's.
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Post by redsaturday on Mar 16, 2014 19:47:00 GMT
Shouldn't the title be missing plane somewhere
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Post by prudhoe on Mar 17, 2014 0:11:43 GMT
Have Rolls Royce released any details yet? They'll know the last time the plane was flying due to the live feedback on the Jet Engine's. The engines only transmit limited data information. On a normal flight would be once after takeoff, maybe once in flight and once after landing. No way a plane could be tracked from it. So far as we have heard so far there was not after landing transmition so i think chances it landed safe are slim.
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