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Assaidi
Feb 14, 2014 19:15:13 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 14, 2014 19:15:13 GMT
Yes.....but only on the basis that he can score goals.....He does look capable of snatching one when he comes on!!!!
Could prove important come the end of the season if he bags and few more!!!
After that.......nah!!!! Although we could do with someone like him, but a bit stronger in a challenge, someone like.........Taarabt?????
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Post by j3st3r on Feb 14, 2014 19:47:52 GMT
For all his apparent pace... He never seems to want to use it... I'm begging for him to knock it past a player and back himself in a foot race.. But he never seems to have the confidence to really have a go..
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Post by albundy on Feb 14, 2014 21:08:34 GMT
Im not really sure why he plays on the left wing. He cannot cross with his left peg and always stops and tries to shoot with his right. Bang him on the right side and see if he can run, beat his man and cross it in from that side
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 14, 2014 21:16:33 GMT
He's ok. Nothing more than that.
I wouldn't be looking at spending a huge sum on him. Anything more that 1m and we've been done.
I much prefer Arnie who has much more to his game than Assaidi.
Not for me really and would like better. I am sure it wouldn't be too hard to find better.
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Assaidi
Feb 14, 2014 21:20:08 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 14, 2014 21:20:08 GMT
Think we can do better
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 23:12:41 GMT
I'm not surprised that many wouldn't want him here permanently, but I thought there'd have been a few more in his corner. I'd love to see us sign him - I'd go up to £3m. He gives us something different, maybe not to use as first choice in every game, but we've all seen what he can do. He'll do for me.
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Assaidi
Feb 14, 2014 23:26:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 23:26:51 GMT
He's ok. Nothing more than that. I wouldn't be looking at spending a huge sum on him. Anything more that 1m and we've been done. I much prefer Arnie who has much more to his game than Assaidi. Not for me really and would like better. I am sure it wouldn't be too hard to find better. Arnie might have more in his locker but assaidi has won us some points with his goals whereas arnie has given us nothing this season. I think assaidi will improve. He just needs to give more end product and start taking his man on the outside and getting crosses in. I don't know where arnie will ever fit in
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Post by f1rew0rks on Feb 14, 2014 23:32:29 GMT
I'm not surprised that many wouldn't want him here permanently, but I thought there'd have been a few more in his corner. I'd love to see us sign him - I'd go up to £3m. He gives us something different, maybe not to use as first choice in every game, but we've all seen what he can do. He'll do for me. Just a few weeks ago he was being hailed as our saviour. I think he's very good but very predictable. As someone mentioned, try him on the right, he has the pace and wouldnt need to keep stopping to get it on his right foot.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 14, 2014 23:36:54 GMT
I think he's a decent squad player for a club at our level.
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 14, 2014 23:53:34 GMT
Subject to a sensible deal I'd sign him as a squad player to be used as an impact player when defences are tiring, but I think Stoke need to get better players for first choice players.
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Assaidi
Feb 15, 2014 0:45:03 GMT
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Post by fortressbritannia on Feb 15, 2014 0:45:03 GMT
He's a bit of a one trick pony in my book. 9 times out of 10 he looks to cut inside on his right foot, even when its not there. He needs to find another aspect to improve his game though as mentioned above he does look like he's got a goal in him. Though if he was to face Wilko for example I'd heap my life savings in Wilkinson pissing all over him, any decent right back will quickly work out Assaidi.
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Post by jeycov on Feb 15, 2014 10:16:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 10:29:54 GMT
He's our best attacking outlet. He has pace, he's direct and he isn't afraid to pull the trigger. I'd take him in a heartbeat.
We need 4 wide players next season. Walters isn't good enough, Ethers is past it and the jury is still out on Arnie. Shea doesn't seem up to much either.
We need to start ridding the deadwood out and adding a bit more quality. We could do a lot worse than starting that process with Assaidi.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 15, 2014 10:38:08 GMT
He looks like an upcoming teenager - some great stuff, some poor that needs working on. But he ain't, he's 25 years old. Weakness in his game should have been sorted by now if he was to be the player he could be.
But I reckon he ain't going to get much better so I'm unsure about keeping him. I'll be happy if he stays, but won't be worried if he goes.
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Assaidi
Feb 15, 2014 10:46:56 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 15, 2014 10:46:56 GMT
Classic Sentinel article
Starts off saying Assaidi not Crouch and only 5ft 10in so needs the ball on the floor
Then goes on to say player is hoping to reach new heights
Used to be a good local Evening paper before it became a comic.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Feb 15, 2014 10:52:50 GMT
"I also like to play in a football team, a team that plays football."
At least he knows what sport he's playing.
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Post by ukcstokie on Feb 15, 2014 10:56:28 GMT
He's ok. Nothing more than that. I wouldn't be looking at spending a huge sum on him. Anything more that 1m and we've been done. I much prefer Arnie who has much more to his game than Assaidi. Not for me really and would like better. I am sure it wouldn't be too hard to find better. Arnie might have more in his locker but assaidi has won us some points with his goals whereas arnie has given us nothing this season. I think assaidi will improve. He just needs to give more end product and start taking his man on the outside and getting crosses in. I don't know where arnie will ever fit in Arnie given us nothing? That's why he leads the team on assists (6). Agendas. One thing is for sure, Assidi is a million miles off the Liverpool team.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 11:41:22 GMT
Arnie might have more in his locker but assaidi has won us some points with his goals whereas arnie has given us nothing this season. I think assaidi will improve. He just needs to give more end product and start taking his man on the outside and getting crosses in. I don't know where arnie will ever fit in Arnie given us nothing? That's why he leads the team on assists (6). Agendas. One thing is for sure, Assidi is a million miles off the Liverpool team. is nowhere near enough for the game time he has had. He should have 6 goals too. He takes a half hour rest in games then doesn't seem to start playing again, at the end of his rest he just gets subbed. He was superb against Man Utd so he has it in him, but he'll ruin his career by not putting in the effort week in week out. He just doesn't fit in because we can't trust him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 15, 2014 11:44:01 GMT
I trust him.
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Post by lordb on Feb 15, 2014 11:48:46 GMT
£1m, £1.5m fees been touted on here
£1m doesn't buy a decent conference player these days
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 15, 2014 11:49:43 GMT
£1m, £1.5m fees been touted on here £1m doesn't buy a decent conference player these days Yup and I wouldn't pay more for Assaidi than that tbh. He's not worth it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 11:53:49 GMT
I trust him. do you trust him to track back and help his full back? do you trust him to be available for a pass 70 minutes into a hard-fought relegation six-pointer? Of course not, he'd be fucking nowhere in those situations. Like Nzonzi he just cannot be arsed. Assaidi at least constantly tracks back and keeps working. His performance at home to Everton was one of the best of any stoke player this season. He deserves more credit than he gets and people forget he has hardly had game time in the premier league, much less than Arnie
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Assaidi
Feb 15, 2014 11:56:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 11:56:18 GMT
He's ok. Nothing more than that. I wouldn't be looking at spending a huge sum on him. Anything more that 1m and we've been done. I much prefer Arnie who has much more to his game than Assaidi. Not for me really and would like better. I am sure it wouldn't be too hard to find better. How do you know that Arnie has much more to his game when he hasn't shown us any of it yet? One free kick aside he has been underwhelming to say the least. On the subject of Assaidi though,he has his uses as an impact sub but I wouldn't be bothered if we didn't sign him permanently as I believe he is destined for a career at a level lower than where we currently are.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 15, 2014 11:57:27 GMT
I trust him. do you trust him to track back and help his full back? do you trust him to be available for a pass 70 minutes into a hard-fought relegation six-pointer? Of course not, he'd be fucking nowhere in those situations. Like Nzonzi he just cannot be arsed. Assaidi at least constantly tracks back and keeps working. His performance at home to Everton was one of the best of any stoke player this season. He deserves more credit than he gets and people forget he has hardly had game time in the premier league, much less than Arnie Yes. You're talking to someone who thinks N'Zonzi is the best "footballer" we have and would play him in every game!
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Post by ukcstokie on Feb 15, 2014 12:03:41 GMT
Arnie given us nothing? That's why he leads the team on assists (6). Agendas. One thing is for sure, Assidi is a million miles off the Liverpool team. is nowhere near enough for the game time he has had. He should have 6 goals too. He takes a half hour rest in games then doesn't seem to start playing again, at the end of his rest he just gets subbed. He was superb against Man Utd so he has it in him, but he'll ruin his career by not putting in the effort week in week out. He just doesn't fit in because we can't trust him. He's been patchy but to claim he contributes nothing is plainly bull shit. He's had a few good games and as the stats (that Ash posted on here several times) proves, his contribution both attacking and defensively is better than Assidi and SJW. You see what you want to see.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Feb 15, 2014 13:10:42 GMT
I trust him. do you trust him to track back and help his full back? do you trust him to be available for a pass 70 minutes into a hard-fought relegation six-pointer? Of course not, he'd be fucking nowhere in those situations. Like Nzonzi he just cannot be arsed. Assaidi at least constantly tracks back and keeps working. His performance at home to Everton was one of the best of any stoke player this season. He deserves more credit than he gets and people forget he has hardly had game time in the premier league, much less than Arnie The problem here though is mate is you're making a statement about what you as an individual are seeing, which is fair enough its an opinion but stats will always say different.
I'm a massive Arnie fan & ill agree that some games he has been frustrating, however please don't give me the bollox about tracking back, when played a full 90 minutes only Walters has covered more distance than him. His job at the end of the day is to track the oppositions fullback not the winger ( that is Pieter's job) You cant be blaming Arnie for Pieter's getting made a mug by certain wingers.
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Assaidi
Feb 15, 2014 13:34:03 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 15, 2014 13:34:03 GMT
He's ok. Nothing more than that. I wouldn't be looking at spending a huge sum on him. Anything more that 1m and we've been done. I much prefer Arnie who has much more to his game than Assaidi. Not for me really and would like better. I am sure it wouldn't be too hard to find better. How do you know that Arnie has much more to his game when he hasn't shown us any of it yet? One free kick aside he has been underwhelming to say the least. On the subject of Assaidi though,he has his uses as an impact sub but I wouldn't be bothered if we didn't sign him permanently as I believe he is destined for a career at a level lower than where we currently are. Because we've seen it in flashes and he has more assists than Assaidi despite showing us nothing according to you and others. Arnie has had a difficult time with injury and illness and hopefully he will come good for us. Arnies problem is that he was hyped up on here and elsewhere so he isn't performing in line with the expectations of him when he arrived
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Assaidi
Feb 15, 2014 13:40:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 13:40:06 GMT
How do you know that Arnie has much more to his game when he hasn't shown us any of it yet? One free kick aside he has been underwhelming to say the least. On the subject of Assaidi though,he has his uses as an impact sub but I wouldn't be bothered if we didn't sign him permanently as I believe he is destined for a career at a level lower than where we currently are. Because we've seen it in flashes and he has more assists than Assaidi despite showing us nothing according to you and others. Arnie has had a difficult time with injury and illness and hopefully he will come good for us. Arnies problem is that he was hyped up on here and elsewhere so he isn't performing in line with the expectations of him when he arrived Let's hope you're right and once he settles fully we will see him turn up for 90 minutes more often and contribute a lot more than he has. If I had to choose who has had the most influence on the games I've seen then I have to say Assaidi so far.
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Post by stokesupporter on Feb 15, 2014 13:56:02 GMT
Considering our success in transfer market lately, I would sign Assaidi as soon as possible.
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 15, 2014 14:21:34 GMT
Considering our success in transfer market lately, I would sign Assaidi as soon as possible. That, to be fair, is a very good point.
But in an ideal world, we need better & should get better.
Doesn't mean we will though.
If I was Hughes, I'd use that very fact as leverage: "...get me (wingerX) all wrapped up before deadline day otherwise, we're having Assaidi".
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