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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 22:20:43 GMT
I'm willing to give him time, but he's just lost a life with me with that sub. A fucking joke and one that needs explaining - over to Nige - oh, hold on..... I'll explain it for you, Crouch was useless up front and we needed someone with a little pace, so put PO through the middle, with Walters on the right, a player that Hughes knows will get in their faces and track all over the place, and with a man down you need that, Adam isn't gonna do it is he, but saying that, Guidetti should have been on much sooner, if it was because of that interview that he didn't, Hughes needs to realise, that atm, we don't have time to get pissed off with players over a small comment in a paper. Thanks, but whichever way you dress it up, a complete bollocks substitution, the sum total of which was destined to offer us absolutely fuck-all in our quest to get something from the game. If at that point Walters was the best option, in Leslie's eyes, then he's a fucking clown.
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Post by stokeramblers on Jan 29, 2014 22:22:32 GMT
Don't worry lads, Captain Fishpaste will be on shortly to give us his usual patronising platitudes of "You lot gave it a good go against a resurgent side", "Thought the ref got it right but you were unlucky" and "Poyet is the next Lord Saviour of Sunderland, the North East, the Universe, he was always going to beat Hughes". Oh Christ I hope not. The last thing we need is that arsehole damning us with his patronising as fuck faint praise.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 29, 2014 22:23:20 GMT
I'll explain it for you, Crouch was useless up front and we needed someone with a little pace, so put PO through the middle, with Walters on the right, a player that Hughes knows will get in their faces and track all over the place, and with a man down you need that, Adam isn't gonna do it is he, but saying that, Guidetti should have been on much sooner, if it was because of that interview that he didn't, Hughes needs to realise, that atm, we don't have time to get pissed off with players over a small comment in a paper. Thanks, but whichever way you dress it up, a complete bollocks substitution, the sum total of which was destined to offer us absolutely fuck-all in our quest to get something from the game. If at that point Walters was the best option, in Leslie's eyes, then he's a fucking clown. It got us pace up front which was non existent with Crouch, it was a positive sub and helped fill the gap, and it made a good difference, I don't see the problem with it, I wasn't calling for it but it turned out fine. If that makes me a fucking clown then so be it.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 29, 2014 22:24:28 GMT
We should. see if we can agree with liverpool to send Assaidi back and free up a loan space Disagree, he's scored some important goals for us and I think he'll chip in with a few more before the season is out. I think he's more effective coming on off the bench when teams are tiring but probably shouldn't be starting. Can't. cross, predictably turns onto his right, hides and pulls out of tackles. Not worth the couple of goals he is capable of scoring. Of course they happened to be important ones but that was fortunate, he doesn't do it often enough to be allowed to be a passenger
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Post by MadMarko10 on Jan 29, 2014 22:24:50 GMT
Don't worry lads, Captain Fishpaste will be on shortly to give us his usual patronising platitudes of "You lot gave it a good go against a resurgent side", "Thought the ref got it right but you were unlucky" and "Poyet is the next Lord Saviour of Sunderland, the North East, the Universe, he was always going to beat Hughes". Oh Christ I hope not. The last thing we need is that arsehole damning us with his patronising as fuck faint praise. Indeed, glad it wasn't just me that noticed that detestable trait. Strange how he was silent when we beat them?
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Post by peterperrett on Jan 29, 2014 22:47:37 GMT
I think you deserved something out of the game. You created very little but certainly put Sunderland under pressure. However, the hypocrisy of Hughes about the sending off is breath taking. Who got booked for diving tonight?? Adams. Who rolled about and feigned injury to get Brown sent of at your place?? Adams. Who screamed at the ref to send off Brown sent off?? Saint Mark of Hughes. Altidore may have gone down easily but it was a foul and a stupid one by N'Zonzi. Yes, bemoan the fact that you didn'y get something tonight, that's fair enough but Hughes hypocrisy wins no sympathy with anyone.
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Post by Willoch on Jan 29, 2014 22:51:57 GMT
Has anyone got a link for the post-match interview with Hughes?
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Post by eggy on Jan 29, 2014 23:15:29 GMT
It's Adam mate, othewise I agree with you. It was a second booking all day long. If the roles were reserved, we'd be going crazy if there was not a sending off.
Stoke definitely deserved something out of the game but for the third game in succession (at least) we've given away an easy goal and you don't pick up points huffing and puffing. You get points by putting the ball in the back of the net.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 23:30:37 GMT
That sending off was a complete and utter joke, Altidore the fat so and so should be ashamed of himself. How heavy is he to go down under the slightest of touches. Another scumbag cheat of the highest order! The higher echelons should be looking at this again, and doing something about it. It is becoming more and more of a joke, by the minute!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 23:32:54 GMT
The Wes brown incident, Peter , was dangerous play and deserved sending off! Don,t try and kid me! If that had been a Stoke player it would not have been rescinded. FACT!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 29, 2014 23:44:05 GMT
I think you deserved something out of the game. You created very little but certainly put Sunderland under pressure. However, the hypocrisy of Hughes about the sending off is breath taking. Who got booked for diving tonight?? Adams. Who rolled about and feigned injury to get Brown sent of at your place?? Adams. Who screamed at the ref to send off Brown sent off?? Saint Mark of Hughes. Altidore may have gone down easily but it was a foul and a stupid one by N'Zonzi. Yes, bemoan the fact that you didn'y get something tonight, that's fair enough but Hughes hypocrisy wins no sympathy with anyone. It's Adam pal. Also, if you "go down easily" it isn't a foul. A foul is a foul. "Going down easily" is when the ref should tell the player to get the fuck up. "Going down easily" is what those Tyneside lasses are known for, which is commendable, but not worthy of taking a name, or even a phone number
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Post by peterperrett on Jan 29, 2014 23:45:05 GMT
The Wes brown incident, Peter , was dangerous play and deserved sending off! Don,t try and kid me! If that had been a Stoke player it would not have been rescinded. FACT! Dear me am I talking to a Liverpool fan here? The Wes Brown sending off was rescinded because it was clearly not a sending off. That is the only fact we are talking about. Your manager reaction and Adams feigning of injury got Brown sent off and the FA rightly overturned that.
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Post by peterperrett on Jan 29, 2014 23:48:08 GMT
I think you deserved something out of the game. You created very little but certainly put Sunderland under pressure. However, the hypocrisy of Hughes about the sending off is breath taking. Who got booked for diving tonight?? Adams. Who rolled about and feigned injury to get Brown sent of at your place?? Adams. Who screamed at the ref to send off Brown sent off?? Saint Mark of Hughes. Altidore may have gone down easily but it was a foul and a stupid one by N'Zonzi. Yes, bemoan the fact that you didn'y get something tonight, that's fair enough but Hughes hypocrisy wins no sympathy with anyone. It's Adam pal. Also, if you "go down easily" it isn't a foul. A foul is a foul. "Going down easily" is when the ref should tell the player to get the fuck up. "Going down easily" is what those Tyneside lasses are known for, which is commendable, but not worthy of taking a name, or even a phone number My point was that Hughes has been exceptionally hypocritical. I'm sure you get that. I think Stoke deserved something tonight but your manager's past antics, in influencing refs to get players sent off lead to a general lack of sympathy towards him. I'm sure you know what I'm getting at.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 29, 2014 23:58:11 GMT
Is it strange that I'm glad its Man U we are playing next?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 30, 2014 0:03:05 GMT
It's Adam pal. Also, if you "go down easily" it isn't a foul. A foul is a foul. "Going down easily" is when the ref should tell the player to get the fuck up. "Going down easily" is what those Tyneside lasses are known for, which is commendable, but not worthy of taking a name, or even a phone number My point was that Hughes has been exceptionally hypocritical. I'm sure you get that. I think Stoke deserved something tonight but your manager's past antics, in influencing refs to get players sent off lead to a general lack of sympathy towards him. I'm sure you know what I'm getting at. I'm not sure about "exceptionally hypocritical" but Hughes is a Marmite kind of guy. He was a feisty player and has been an opinionated Manager but to be fair since he arrived at Stoke I think his press conferences, both pre and post match, have been played with a straight bat. "We weren't good enough in the final third" "I thought we deserved something" "Disappointed with the referee" etc, etc. All very honest. Maybe a reputation precedes him but so far he hasn't pulled any punches.
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Post by david1955 on Jan 30, 2014 13:42:37 GMT
Other than the first 15 minutes thought we were by far and away the better team. Ref was conned so many times - sending off NO NO NO - HAND ON SHOULDER would not have knocked a feather over but the cheating sunderland players won again. Do want Hughes to succeed but the substitutions were very very baffling. As for Walters - crap - needed a goal so what do we do. I have been worried for the last 4 weeks as we cannot keep saying about luck and refs. Sadly last night one of our heroes this season Beg made an error which cost us even 1 point. And remember who got man of the match - Sunderland keeper Mannone Lets keep the faith and give Odemwingie support and we will come good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 14:17:59 GMT
The Wes brown incident, Peter , was dangerous play and deserved sending off! Don,t try and kid me! If that had been a Stoke player it would not have been rescinded. FACT! Dear me am I talking to a Liverpool fan here? The Wes Brown sending off was rescinded because it was clearly not a sending off. That is the only fact we are talking about. Your manager reaction and Adams feigning of injury got Brown sent off and the FA rightly overturned that. ignore him...it was right to rescind the red for Brown mate, never a sending off in the world
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