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Post by jonah77 on Nov 17, 2013 13:06:37 GMT
Potters is not really too relevant in the modern City of Stoke on Trent, only our history. I've never really like the term Potters either. Have we always had that nickname, or has it only come to prominence since the last version of the club crest? I love all the old versions of the crest as well, they're more like family coats of arms, especially the one with the camel on it. If anyone on here can explain the meaning of those old crests, I'd love to hear. If the name reflects what we do as a City, in a strict context we should be Stoke Telesales... What about the Stoke Warehouse operatives. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 13:20:25 GMT
Potters is not really too relevant in the modern City of Stoke on Trent, only our history. I've never really like the term Potters either. Have we always had that nickname, or has it only come to prominence since the last version of the club crest? I love all the old versions of the crest as well, they're more like family coats of arms, especially the one with the camel on it. If anyone on here can explain the meaning of those old crests, I'd love to hear. If the name reflects what we do as a City, in a strict context we should be Stoke Telesales... What about the Stoke Warehouse operatives. Either way Jonah, neither are exactly dynamic. But equally both are as good as "Potters" which I think is wank. Sheffield Utd are called "The Blades" which is derived from their steel business which is cool. But I can't think of any item of pottery that we could be named after that's any good. The Plates? The Mugs? The Vases? The Bogs? I suppose that anything to do with clay just isn't cool. |
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 17, 2013 13:27:20 GMT
I hate all this Americanisation of our country. A name change would be some advertisers bullshit marketing pitch that cost the club loads of money in re-branding costs and would alienate anyone with any culture in my opinion.
As such, I would be strongly opposed to a name change
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 17, 2013 13:50:22 GMT
I hate all this Americanisation of our country it's. A name change would be some advertisers bullshit marketing pitch that cost the club loads of money in re-branding costs and would alienate anyone with any culture in my opinion. As such, I would be strongly opposed to a name change Been going on a long time; as Strummer says in this classic performance "this song made possible by Freddie Laker"... |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Nov 17, 2013 16:01:36 GMT
Copeland owned Spode hence the link with Stoke. I once suggested to one of the chappies in the club shop up 'Anley duck that the camel is on the badge because the club wants something that can run faster than Kenwyne Jones!
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Nov 17, 2013 16:45:10 GMT
I believe the camel represents Hanley. The vase is taken from the Burslem arms, the eagle from the arms of Longton, the sythe was the emblem of the Sneyd family and is from both the Tunstall and Burslem arms. Finally, the boar's head at the top of the crest is taken from the arms of stoke town- also the arms of the Copeland family. Excellent mate. Thanks. I can get the vase but why does the camel symbolise Hanley? And the eagle from Longton? Any chance you can dig a bit deeper? Who were the Copeland family? I've heard of the Sneyd family. It's such a beautiful crest, i've often looked at it and wondered what it all meant, ever since I was a boy. I don't think the same can be said of our latest crest, although I like the simplicity, it doesn't carry the symbolism or the weight of meaning (even though I didn't know what the meaning was) of the old crest.
I think most old Stokies will tell you they like that one too. agreed. that crest has meaning and history. It's the type of crest that opposing fans will look at and go: "Yeah, they're a club full of history." Apparently, the camel was used on the arms of Hanley in honour of John Ridgeway- The first mayor of Hanley. The camel was the main feature of the Ridgeway arms. The story goes that Ridgeway adopted a camel in honour of the land of origin of the pottery industry, Egypt. The eagle apparently originates from the arms of the Mosely family. can't find anything on who they are though. The Copeland family I haven't found much more on either (except the above post) other than the arms were of R.P Copeland. I've put a picture of their original arms below.  I'll keep looking though. |
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 17, 2013 19:39:30 GMT
I hate all this Americanisation of our country it's. A name change would be some advertisers bullshit marketing pitch that cost the club loads of money in re-branding costs and would alienate anyone with any culture in my opinion. As such, I would be strongly opposed to a name change Been going on a long time; as Strummer says in this classic performance "this song made possible by Freddie Laker"... Good link.....yeah this has been going on for a long time.Since the IMF loan that bailed out the UK in the 70's submitted the UK economy to IMF supervision maybe?.....who knows for sure but I do know I don't want SCFC to be part of this unpleasant trend   |
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 17, 2013 19:47:32 GMT
Been going on a long time; as Strummer says in this classic performance "this song made possible by Freddie Laker"... Good link.....yeah this has been going on for a long time.Since the IMF loan that bailed out the UK in the 70's submitted the UK economy to IMF supervision maybe?.....who knows for sure but I do know I don't want SCFC to be part of this unpleasant trend As the song lyric says (nearly); Yankee, dollar talk To the English Premier League In fact it's giving orders And they can't afford to miss a word |
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