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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 24, 2013 7:57:12 GMT
I thought the aim of football was to score goals? Why have goals when this one touch and move football is this enthralling?. Yes because we scored hatfuls of goals before
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 7:59:19 GMT
Why have goals when this one touch and move football is this enthralling?. Yes because we scored hatfuls of goals before Makes it more acceptable , don't ya think?.
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Post by shiftyfifty on Oct 24, 2013 8:00:03 GMT
Why have goals when this one touch and move football is this enthralling?. Yes because we scored hatfuls of goals before Read my last post.
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 24, 2013 8:01:41 GMT
How Stoke would it be if Palarse go for Pulis and then finish a point above us in 17th place?????
We could be an episode of Corrie.
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 24, 2013 8:04:24 GMT
Fcuk e'm off Tone as you'll soon be wanted get us back out of the shitter. I bet you can't wait to start supporting Crystal Pulis FC. Good news really, the quicker we can get rid of anti-football anti Stoke City fans the better. Crystal Pulis! I see what you did.....I like!
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Post by dadofsam on Oct 24, 2013 8:06:05 GMT
If their ex boss came calling who do you think out of our squad would answer the call?
Wilko? Shotton?
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 24, 2013 8:18:37 GMT
Fcuk e'm off Tone as you'll soon be wanted get us back out of the shitter. I bet you can't wait to start supporting Crystal Pulis FC. Good news really, the quicker we can get rid of anti-football anti Stoke City fans the better. Anti Stoke city fans? Like the fools that said they wouldn't go to Stoke while Pulis was in charge? Sensible fans support the club not one man.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 8:21:28 GMT
Not sure if anyone mentioned it but a quote in the Mirror that stuck out for me...
"Holloway, who sat alongside Parish at a Soho hotel to announce his departure, said he would happily tell former Bristol Rovers team-mate and close friend Pulis that Palace is the right club if he wants to return to management.
“Tony is one of my best mates,” he said. “But does he even want to bother any more, after what he did at Stoke and the disgusting things that were said there?
“That’s football for you.”"
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Post by jeycov on Oct 24, 2013 8:25:27 GMT
If their ex boss came calling who do you think out of our squad would answer the call? Wilko? Shotton? Just thinking who he may attract should he decide to take the job Interestingly both Shotton and Wilko local boys? Palace are a Premiership Club which may tempt TP, although I'm not sure that a job in London is a good match for him. He's never been relegated so will he risk that? However, surviving in the Prem would be an amazing achievement in anyones books We had our "Hughes out" brigade, would there be a similar response at Selhurst Park? (Not sure that TP would be too upset by that)
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 24, 2013 8:27:29 GMT
Indeed, we're struggling LIKE LAST SEASON AND THE ONE BEFORE AND THE ONE BEFORE.... WE'D SCORED 7 THIS TIME LAST SEASON AGAINST BETTER OPPOSITION, 75% MORE THAN THIS SEASON. We've won twice as many games. What's your point? We're struggling to score goals FACT. But it's always been the same. What does that tell you?
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 24, 2013 8:32:19 GMT
Not sure if anyone mentioned it but a quote in the Mirror that stuck out for me... "Holloway, who sat alongside Parish at a Soho hotel to announce his departure, said he would happily tell former Bristol Rovers team-mate and close friend Pulis that Palace is the right club if he wants to return to management. “Tony is one of my best mates,” he said. “But does he even want to bother any more, after what he did at Stoke and the disgusting things that were said there? “That’s football for you.”" Disgusting things???
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 8:36:05 GMT
Not sure if anyone mentioned it but a quote in the Mirror that stuck out for me... "Holloway, who sat alongside Parish at a Soho hotel to announce his departure, said he would happily tell former Bristol Rovers team-mate and close friend Pulis that Palace is the right club if he wants to return to management. “Tony is one of my best mates,” he said. “But does he even want to bother any more, after what he did at Stoke and the disgusting things that were said there? “That’s football for you.”" Disgusting things??? That's the striking part. I think it could either be a) the way Stoke dismissed him, in Holloway's opinion or b) the way the media portrayed him and abused him for the style of play at Stoke. Regardless Holloway never shy's away from giving an opinion it seems.
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Post by shiftyfifty on Oct 24, 2013 8:38:11 GMT
WE'D SCORED 7 THIS TIME LAST SEASON AGAINST BETTER OPPOSITION, 75% MORE THAN THIS SEASON. We've won twice as many games. What's your point? We're struggling to score goals FACT. But it's always been the same. What does that tell you? It tells me that this brand of football is no improvement on what we've seen in the past.
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 24, 2013 8:39:03 GMT
That's the striking part. I think it could either be a) the way Stoke dismissed him, in Holloway's opinion or b) the way the media portrayed him and abused him for the style of play at Stoke. Regardless Holloway never shy's away from giving an opinion it seems. Maybe it's the stuff from Jones/Scholes etc. I'm sure Tony has probably had a grumble about it with his pal
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Post by shiftyfifty on Oct 24, 2013 8:39:59 GMT
That's the striking part. I think it could either be a) the way Stoke dismissed him, in Holloway's opinion or b) the way the media portrayed him and abused him for the style of play at Stoke. More likely: c) the abuse he's received on here.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 24, 2013 8:46:30 GMT
We've won twice as many games. What's your point? We're struggling to score goals FACT. But it's always been the same. What does that tell you? It tells me that this brand of football is no improvement on what we've seen in the past. So we should go back to something that didn't work or should we try and change things, which takes time of course?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 8:48:25 GMT
Yes because we scored hatfuls of goals before Read my last post. Like eet, welcome aboard matey.
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 24, 2013 8:51:46 GMT
Like eet, welcome aboard the good ship HMS Bellend matey.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 24, 2013 8:53:34 GMT
2 PL managers sacked, only 8 games into the season, that shows the fear clubs have of relegation. Seems after all there aren't many brave Chairmen around.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 24, 2013 8:53:37 GMT
Like eet, welcome aboard the good ship HMS Bellend matey. Mornin Captain stokeramblers. What time does your ship bellend sail?
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Post by realstokebloke on Oct 24, 2013 8:56:05 GMT
That's the striking part. I think it could either be a) the way Stoke dismissed him, in Holloway's opinion or b) the way the media portrayed him and abused him for the style of play at Stoke. Regardless Holloway never shy's away from giving an opinion it seems. Wasn't it:
C) All the crap he got off the PHWs - as widely evidenced on here.
And we can (have) all made our mind up what was justified and what wasn't.
But yes, IH is his very big mucka and will defend him to the last. He'd be right to say TP could do it I think - for me he could.
He's arguably got: a squad that is at least as good as our promo one, a honeymoon period all round, sounds to me like a very supportive & loyal board, more than enough games & time to turn the ship and a window (& cash you'd think) to come.
All this bollox about not risking his reputation of never being relegated is just that to me. He wants to get back in and won't get a better opportunity this season (any sackings and 'rescue missions post Jan are going to be a lot harder to pull round with no window and less time) and the longer he's out, the more he becomes yesterday's man. Yes he'd like to frame that 'never relegated' tag on his CV but it's a straight gamble on his ability to maintain that with CP this season and, for the reasons above, I think he'll be very, very tempted if he gets offered it.
Plus he loves Jedinak.
I wish him well if he does**but only if we've sorted our own back yard out first of course and aren't flirting with the bottom three next May.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Oct 24, 2013 9:04:33 GMT
You can read this thread and detect that a very small number of individuals interest in Pulis getting the Palace or any job goes beyond a passing interest in the fate of a ex-manager.
The thinly disguised sub-plot reads suspiciously like they want things beyond that; namely Pulis gets Premier League job, Pulis gets better results with Premier League club than Stoke achieve.
Some are that polarised you suspect that they would be happy to see a Pulis run team like Palace stay up at our expense. Like that would prove some sort of point in their favour.
We have seen it all before of course when Pulis was at Plymouth and so called Stoke supporters actually wished for and celebrated them beating Stoke! We all saw it.
Fact is that even if the fondest wishes of the smallest of minorities came true it wouldn't change a thing. St Peter sacked Pulis because this football club could not sustain him any longer and needed to find a new way involving economically viable transfer policies and development of its own talent. The things Tony Pulis could never deliver on in a million dossiers of intent.
In broad terms the time where TP being manager was mutually beneficial to him and the club had come to an end. Wishing disaster on our own club and that coming to pass in parallel to Pulis doing well elsewhere wont change that one jot.
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 24, 2013 9:06:51 GMT
Mornin Captain. What time does your ship sail? 3 O'clock on Satdy aft noon aboard the HMS Stoke City, young matelow. I should say I was wrong to say that Tazi was at the helm of HMS Bellend though. More likely U-P45, skulking about in the depths waiting for a chance to sink HMS Stoke City, it's new captain and all the other souls aboard.
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Post by realstokebloke on Oct 24, 2013 9:09:53 GMT
You can read this thread and detect that a very small number of individuals interest in Pulis getting the Palace or any job goes beyond a passing interest in the fate of a ex-manager. The thinly disguised sub-plot reads suspiciously like they want things beyond that; namely Pulis gets Premier League job, Pulis gets better results with Premier League club than Stoke achieve. Some are that polarised you suspect that they would be happy to see a Pulis run team like Palace stay up at our expense. Like that would prove some sort of point in their favour. We have seen it all before of course when Pulis was at Plymouth and so called Stoke supporters actually wished for and celebrated them beating Stoke! We all saw it. Fact is that even if the fondest wishes of the smallest of minorities came true it wouldn't change a thing. St Peter sacked Pulis because this football club could not sustain him any longer and needed to find a new way involving economically viable transfer policies and development of its own talent. The things Tony Pulis could never deliver on in a million dossiers of intent. In broad terms the time where TP being manager was mutually beneficial to him and the club had come to an end. Wishing disaster on our own club and that coming to pass in parallel to Pulis doing well elsewhere wont change that one jot. 100% Mark.
Succinct summary of where / why we and TP parted.
Doesn't stop me wishing him well though should (repeat should) he get it.
And I'm even in (was in) the other camp.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 24, 2013 9:12:17 GMT
I think your post Mark is a load of rubbish. Pulis supporters on here are simply trying to defend his record against a torrent of abuse from a small minority of fans who seem to have lost a sense of proportion on the issue.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 24, 2013 9:13:04 GMT
You can read this thread and detect that a very small number of individuals interest in Pulis getting the Palace or any job goes beyond a passing interest in the fate of a ex-manager. The thinly disguised sub-plot reads suspiciously like they want things beyond that; namely Pulis gets Premier League job, Pulis gets better results with Premier League club than Stoke achieve. Some are that polarised you suspect that they would be happy to see a Pulis run team like Palace stay up at our expense. Like that would prove some sort of point in their favour. We have seen it all before of course when Pulis was at Plymouth and so called Stoke supporters actually wished for and celebrated them beating Stoke! We all saw it. Fact is that even if the fondest wishes of the smallest of minorities came true it wouldn't change a thing. St Peter sacked Pulis because this football club could not sustain him any longer and needed to find a new way involving economically viable transfer policies and development of its own talent. The things Tony Pulis could never deliver on in a million dossiers of intent. In broad terms the time where TP being manager was mutually beneficial to him and the club had come to an end. Wishing disaster on our own club and that coming to pass in parallel to Pulis doing well elsewhere wont change that one jot. 100% Mark.
Succinct summary of where / why we and TP parted.
Doesn't stop me wishing him well though should (repeat should) he get it.
And I'm even in (was in) the other camp. I have had this conversation with Werrington. I can't get my head around the fact that people would want us to do badly just to prove a point. I have my views which I have aired on here many times but I would always want Stoke City to do well and never hope we lose.
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Post by rorymscfc on Oct 24, 2013 9:14:13 GMT
Given that Pulis for all his impressive achievements at Stoke is still a pretty unfashionable name in football management, this is probably as good an opportunity as he's going to get. A premier league club with some decent players, a supportive and plenty of time to turn things around. It's also very easily commutable from Sandbasnks!
If Palace's main objective is survival then they would be insane not to offer the job to TP. If TP aspires to get back into management this season then I think he'd be mad not to accept.
I have to admit though I'd be terrified at the prospect of Palace finishing above us...
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 24, 2013 9:15:16 GMT
You can read this thread and detect that a very small number of individuals interest in Pulis getting the Palace or any job goes beyond a passing interest in the fate of a ex-manager. The thinly disguised sub-plot reads suspiciously like they want things beyond that; namely Pulis gets Premier League job, Pulis gets better results with Premier League club than Stoke achieve. Some are that polarised you suspect that they would be happy to see a Pulis run team like Palace stay up at our expense. Like that would prove some sort of point in their favour. We have seen it all before of course when Pulis was at Plymouth and so called Stoke supporters actually wished for and celebrated them beating Stoke! We all saw it. Fact is that even if the fondest wishes of the smallest of minorities came true it wouldn't change a thing. St Peter sacked Pulis because this football club could not sustain him any longer and needed to find a new way involving economically viable transfer policies and development of its own talent. The things Tony Pulis could never deliver on in a million dossiers of intent. In broad terms the time where TP being manager was mutually beneficial to him and the club had come to an end. Wishing disaster on our own club and that coming to pass in parallel to Pulis doing well elsewhere wont change that one jot. And why the fuck shouldn't we have more than a passing interest in a man who only left his post as our manager a few months ago. Like it or not Tony Pulis is very much a part of our rich history. I cared about Lou after he went, I cared about Steino after he went, I cared about Paul Ware after he went and I'll fucking well care about Tony Pulis if that's ok with you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 9:17:14 GMT
You can read this thread and detect that a very small number of individuals interest in Pulis getting the Palace or any job goes beyond a passing interest in the fate of a ex-manager. The thinly disguised sub-plot reads suspiciously like they want things beyond that; namely Pulis gets Premier League job, Pulis gets better results with Premier League club than Stoke achieve. Some are that polarised you suspect that they would be happy to see a Pulis run team like Palace stay up at our expense. Like that would prove some sort of point in their favour. We have seen it all before of course when Pulis was at Plymouth and so called Stoke supporters actually wished for and celebrated them beating Stoke! We all saw it. Fact is that even if the fondest wishes of the smallest of minorities came true it wouldn't change a thing. St Peter sacked Pulis because this football club could not sustain him any longer and needed to find a new way involving economically viable transfer policies and development of its own talent. The things Tony Pulis could never deliver on in a million dossiers of intent. In broad terms the time where TP being manager was mutually beneficial to him and the club had come to an end. Wishing disaster on our own club and that coming to pass in parallel to Pulis doing well elsewhere wont change that one jot. maybe there are some so called Stoke supporters who would rather see Pulis do well at another club, but how are they any different from the so called Stoke supporters who wanted to see Pulis fail when he was here so they could justify their obsessive hatred? Im sure ive read threads from you where you said he didnt deserve any credit for reaching the cup final or winning promotion. You are no different from anyone who would celebrate another Pulis side beating us.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 24, 2013 9:18:10 GMT
Just out of interest, was there ever a statement that said that Mr Pulis had been sacked? Genuine question as I have never seen one.
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