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Post by salopstick on May 28, 2015 15:26:44 GMT
The cunt has no shame
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 15:43:11 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 28, 2015 16:16:28 GMT
It's one thing EUFA and sponsors making threats to review their positions. What they should be saying is they will withdraw from FIFA and FIFA sponsorship if Blatter is re-elected.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 28, 2015 16:24:16 GMT
Very strange because the election isn't until tomorrow is it? Does this infer that the "election" has already been held and tomorrow's proceedings were just a front??
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 16:27:45 GMT
Could it mean that the votes have been cast, but not opened and counted until tomorrow?
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 28, 2015 16:27:52 GMT
Very strange because the election isn't until tomorrow is it? Does this infer that the "election" has already been held and tomorrow's proceedings were just a front?? It's a joke. I thought it was pretty funny actually.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 16:28:58 GMT
Very strange because the election isn't until tomorrow is it? Does this infer that the "election" has already been held and tomorrow's proceedings were just a front?? It's a joke. I thought it was pretty funny actually. Ahhhh .... yep quite funny.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 28, 2015 16:34:14 GMT
Very strange because the election isn't until tomorrow is it? Does this infer that the "election" has already been held and tomorrow's proceedings were just a front?? It's a joke. I thought it was pretty funny actually. Bollox I'm far too serious this afternoon. That is quite funny and to make it even funnier I've been trawling the web trying to confirm the story
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 28, 2015 16:46:29 GMT
Could it mean that the votes have been cast, but not opened and counted until tomorrow? it will be the best election money can buy, you can count on that.
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Post by ukcstokie on May 28, 2015 16:47:33 GMT
It's a joke. I thought it was pretty funny actually. Bollox I'm far too serious this afternoon. That is quite funny and to make it even funnier I've been trawling the web trying to confirm the story A classic Oatcake whoosh moment.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 21:09:59 GMT
What really, really gets my goat is how Blatter in his speech today, has stated that all the wrongdoings and allegations levelled at the arrested FIFA members somehow casts a shadow or a stain over football. It does not; it casts a shadow over FIFA and the way corporations and individuals ultimately behave when the stakes and the funds are at their very highest levels.
The twisted old man actually sees FIFA as football. FIFA most certainly is not football, so he can knock that nonsense off right now. We'll have a Champions League, a Premier League, a Football League and a World Cup every four years with or without them. It's that simple.
At some point this deluded old man will be arrested and if he wants that to happen whilst he is still in the top job, then so be it. That will damage FIFA far more than if he is arrested as a former president of FIFA.
The issue with the sponsors is just as murky; they too have been part of the guilt and corruption. This cancer runs very deep and every party that is touched by FIFA - nations, sponsors, the confederations all carry various levels of guilt and criminal wrongdoing.
I hope Greg Dyke can find his kahoona's. I dont care what UEFA do, I want the FA to do the right thing and walk away - irrespective of the others; it's become a moral issue and we need to show that we are not about to be pushed an pulled by a morally reprehensible criminal organisation just because that is the way it has been for over a hundred years.
Talk about role models and standards of behaviour in football...ask any 10 year old what FIFA stands for. They know.
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Post by salopstick on May 29, 2015 7:19:23 GMT
The fact blatter will get the necessary votes today is a sad reflection on those voting
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Post by basingstokie on May 29, 2015 7:29:51 GMT
The fact blatter will get the necessary votes today is a sad reflection on those voting I think it's a reflection of the fact that Blatter uses some FIFA money to assist (you can read bribe into this if you want) the voting committees in smaller/less developed countries where there is less focus on corruption, bribery and openness. We are trying (quite rightly IMO) to apply proper governance to an organisation which represents and is elected by a significant no. of countries where corrupt practices are a way of life. Blatter knows the game and knows how to play it
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Post by JoeinOz on May 29, 2015 7:50:50 GMT
Ali would be worser than blatter
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Post by lordb on May 29, 2015 7:51:56 GMT
Ali would be worser than blatter do tell
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Post by Northy on May 29, 2015 8:06:33 GMT
The fact blatter will get the necessary votes today is a sad reflection on those voting I think it's a reflection of the fact that Blatter uses some FIFA money to assist (you can read bribe into this if you want) the voting committees in smaller/less developed countries where there is less focus on corruption, bribery and openness. We are trying (quite rightly IMO) to apply proper governance to an organisation which represents and is elected by a significant no. of countries where corrupt practices are a way of life. Blatter knows the game and knows how to play it Agree, they all say that Blatter has 'helped' football in their country, who's to say the next president won't help football in their country, but probably not awarding the contracts to the companies that the FIFA reps families are involved in.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 29, 2015 8:13:08 GMT
I cant understand why the voting today cant be abandoned until every member of FIFA has been investigated.
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Post by salopstick on May 29, 2015 8:31:22 GMT
I cant understand why the voting today cant be abandoned until every member of FIFA has been investigated. What got me was Greg Dyke - "the level of corruption is unacceptable" As if there was an acceptable level of corruption
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Post by fca47 on May 29, 2015 8:32:10 GMT
I cant understand why the voting today cant be abandoned until every member of FIFA has been investigated. Blatter can't go now, because if he does all those people who know things about him, will spill the beans. While he is still there they are beholden to him and will only back him up. He will be there until he leaves this earth.
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Post by Binndy on May 29, 2015 9:03:01 GMT
He will get the African votes with the amount of money that fifa have spent on projects in Africa. He not daft. Quater will be lovely for him Sun, fine meals, young women and home for Christmas.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 29, 2015 9:05:18 GMT
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 29, 2015 9:08:48 GMT
I think it's a reflection of the fact that Blatter uses some FIFA money to assist (you can read bribe into this if you want) the voting committees in smaller/less developed countries where there is less focus on corruption, bribery and openness. We are trying (quite rightly IMO) to apply proper governance to an organisation which represents and is elected by a significant no. of countries where corrupt practices are a way of life. Blatter knows the game and knows how to play it Agree, they all say that Blatter has 'helped' football in their country, who's to say the next president won't help football in their country, but probably not awarding the contracts to the companies that the FIFA reps families are involved in. What is probably needed (once Blatter is no longer in post) is that the CONSTITUTION of FIFA is amended to REQUIRE that it uses its funds to redistribute its funds so that a large slice of them go to help the poorest member countries of FIFA. If the constitution could be worded right then that aspect of FIFA's work would continue to happen whoever got elected as top dog. In practice it would happen anyway but the poorest countries are not prepared to take the risk. The only way these things are going happen though is probably by the richest countries in FIFA, especially the European block and the USA, threatening to withdraw all support for FIFA. It is European and USA broadcasters and sponsors who provide FIFA with most of its funding and only a threat to those funds is going to bring about the will to change. Even the poorest country has to realise that FIFA/Blatter can't deliver on its promises unless it has continued access to European and USA sources of funding.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 29, 2015 9:27:49 GMT
Absolutely incredible.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 9:59:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 10:06:16 GMT
Absolutely incredible. Enjoy the moment Paul. We have waited a long time for this process to complete its cycle. Like Lance Armstrong, Blatter and his cronies can't do it forever. I'd like to thank all the posters on the Oatcake for keeping the pressure up on this lot and keeping the issue current - even the doubters. And credit to the Oatcakes admin and moderation that have sought to focus the issue within this thread over the years. It's a brilliant thread this if you read it from the start. And who is ShanghaiPotter? To quote Andrew Jennings. "If Blatter knew what was going on then he has to go. If Blatter didn't know what was going on then he really has to go".
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Post by enuntio on May 29, 2015 10:47:06 GMT
Blatter has to go and the next 2 world cups need to be reassessed along woth FIFA in its entirety If this does not happen then indiviodual federatqions should resign from. FIFA.
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Post by mailman44 on May 29, 2015 10:54:47 GMT
The Swiss stood by for years Joe. The US are driving this, the Swiss are obliged to comply. Not so according to the press conference by FIFA this morning, they were invited on 18th November 2014 by FIFA. The Swiss have taken it upon yhemselves to conduct a seperate investigation not controlled by FIFA ( who supplied documents to US. The Swiss raided the offices and took what they wanted not what was supplied. The accused are already resisting extradition, but of course they are already in Switzerland. Have a good read of what has been happening and you will see that FIFA were spoon feeding the information that they wanted to (as always) but the Swiss have blown it wide open. US have had twenty years to do something but only acted when invited to. Only giving praise where it is due, hope both get on with it but have more faith in the Swiss despite their previous record with their own banking arrangements. Like you just desperately hoping something gets done at long last. "According to the press conference by FIFA ...." Anything coming out of that cesspool organization is about as credible as Bayern 1860 Otcake's opinion of Charlie Adam! I am sure the USA has an agenda, but this whole thing started with the USA taking the lead. Switzerland is trying to do damage control at this point.
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Post by Northy on May 29, 2015 11:12:38 GMT
I see Putin has had his say, given the USA a bit of stick. He's now worried his backhanders will be found out then !
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 29, 2015 11:34:40 GMT
The Serious Fraud Office has said it is "actively assessing material in its possession" relating to possible Fifa corruption.
An SFO spokeswoman said: "The SFO continues actively to assess material in its possession and has made plain that it stands ready to assist ongoing international criminal investigations." It comes after bank accounts at Barclays, HSBC and Standard Chartered Bank were allegedly used to transfer cash as part of the conspiracy.
Interesting.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 29, 2015 13:21:37 GMT
Paul Kelso ?@pkelso Been pointed out that more than halfway through Congress, and after items on finance, regulation & ethics, NOT ONE question from the floor 1:10 PM - 29 May 2015 8 8 Retweets 3 3 favorites
And Blatter has just got the whole congress to link arms in a plea for peace - truly bizarre viewing!
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