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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 14, 2019 16:08:57 GMT
Support duties today in Birmingham for the half....except they announce to those in the pens that its now not a half due to safety concerns (Cannon Hill Park surface water...) Some pretty pissed off people from my Club who a) didn't hear the message or b) wondered why at the finish the gamin was saying 11 miles.... Oh and it rained more last year & it was run as normal.! Edit that...an update from the organisers UPDATE: Following today’s Great Birmingham Run we apologise to everyone who had their event day experience affected by the reduced distance of the course. This morning we were advised of a suspicious vehicle in the Cannon Hill Park area of the route. Your safety is our number one priority and after consultation with the police we altered the route to avoid Cannon Hill Park and Edgbaston. A decision, again in consultation with the police, was made to progress with the event over the reduced distance and we can assure participants and spectators that their safety was not compromised at any point. At a later point in the day the vehicle was subsequently declared as safe. We’ll be in direct contact with all participants in the coming days, thanks for your understanding. Right decision, but yeah I'd be pissed off if I hadn't heard the announcement. 14 miles yesterday for me. Miles have come right down, doesn't feel right! Every year for last 3/4 years Birmingham Half has changed route, changed it again, cancelled a full, changed route...shortened route. "Great Birmingham Run" Yeah right!
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 16, 2019 12:26:01 GMT
Ran my first 10k this morning (Biddulph to Congleton and back), in preparation for Tatton Park in just over a fortnight's time.
I wasn't really interested in the time or the pace, I just wanted to get the distance under my belt to give me confidence.
I managed 56:30, which was a bit of a surprise. I was thinking it would have been around the 1 hour mark, as I took it reasonably steady.
It was very early (5.45am start), very dark and very wet (excellent weather for ducks!), and quite hilly too, so I'm pretty happy with that time.
Definitely targeting sub 55 for Tatton now.
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Post by Northy on Oct 16, 2019 12:33:35 GMT
Right decision, but yeah I'd be pissed off if I hadn't heard the announcement. 14 miles yesterday for me. Miles have come right down, doesn't feel right! Every year for last 3/4 years Birmingham Half has changed route, changed it again, cancelled a full, changed route...shortened route. "Great Birmingham Run" Yeah right! The English half marathon was cancelled this year with about 3 days to go. I've signed up for Manchester marathon next year, think you did it this year ?
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 17, 2019 18:54:34 GMT
Just done a 7k run around Biddulph/Congleton.
Smashed my 5k time again. Down to 23:09 now.
Averaged sub 5 minute per km for thr 7km distance.
Couple of days off now as the shins are aching.
Tatton 10k in just over a fortnight.
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Post by felonious on Oct 17, 2019 20:00:41 GMT
Just done a recce of the new slightly tougher Flying Fox 10 mile race put on by the excellent Stone Master Marathoners. They've added an extra hill in to go with all the other hills. Three months in on the comeback trail and 1:14 for the course, last mile 6:40
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 19, 2019 6:39:26 GMT
Just done a recce of the new slightly tougher Flying Fox 10 mile race put on by the excellent Stone Master Marathoners. They've added an extra hill in to go with all the other hills. Three months in on the comeback trail and 1:14 for the course, last mile 6:40 What are your PBs for 5k, 10k, half etc? How long have you been running?
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Post by yes on Oct 19, 2019 11:26:11 GMT
Just done a recce of the new slightly tougher Flying Fox 10 mile race put on by the excellent Stone Master Marathoners. They've added an extra hill in to go with all the other hills. Three months in on the comeback trail and 1:14 for the course, last mile 6:40 What are your PBs for 5k, 10k, half etc? How long have you been running? He's kept it extremely quiet but he's pretty quick, and holds a county record 😉
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 19, 2019 13:31:44 GMT
Every year for last 3/4 years Birmingham Half has changed route, changed it again, cancelled a full, changed route...shortened route. "Great Birmingham Run" Yeah right! The English half marathon was cancelled this year with about 3 days to go. I've signed up for Manchester marathon next year, think you did it this year ? Yp, done it the last 2 years & loved it. Next year the route actually goes through the City centre I believe...and if it wasn't for the fact I will be in Florida I would have booked up too!
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Post by felonious on Oct 19, 2019 17:16:45 GMT
What are your PBs for 5k, 10k, half etc? How long have you been running? He's kept it extremely quiet but he's pretty quick, and holds a county record 😉 He also won the UK Athletics English Championships 5K in his vet category two years ago
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Post by felonious on Oct 19, 2019 17:26:58 GMT
Just done a recce of the new slightly tougher Flying Fox 10 mile race put on by the excellent Stone Master Marathoners. They've added an extra hill in to go with all the other hills. Three months in on the comeback trail and 1:14 for the course, last mile 6:40 What are your PBs for 5k, 10k, half etc? How long have you been running? 9 years since my mate Northy persuaded me to do the Tatton Park 10K and I send him a PM every day to thank him for it I've had knee issues on and off for the last two years but set new PBs for 7 years in a row up to 2 years ago so 5K 18 minutes, 5 miles 30 minutes and a 38 minute 10K. I've done a half in 1:29 but I'm really a shorter distance runner. I only did one marathon and experienced cramp for the last 7 miles and finished in 3:21. I'm also an old bastard so you've got no excuses
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 19, 2019 17:33:44 GMT
What are your PBs for 5k, 10k, half etc? How long have you been running? 9 years since my mate Northy persuaded me to do the Tatton Park 10K and I send him a PM every day to thank him for it I've had knee issues on and off for the last two years but set new PBs for 7 years in a row up to 2 years ago so 5K 18 minutes, 5 miles 30 minutes and a 38 minute 10K. I've done a half in 1:29 but I'm really a shorter distance runner. I only did one marathon and experienced cramp for the last 7 miles and finished in 3:21. I'm also an old bastard so you've got no excuses Yeah, I'm miles away from all those times!! My first race is Tatton 10k in a fortnight, so we have that in common!
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Post by felonious on Oct 19, 2019 17:42:02 GMT
9 years since my mate Northy persuaded me to do the Tatton Park 10K and I send him a PM every day to thank him for it I've had knee issues on and off for the last two years but set new PBs for 7 years in a row up to 2 years ago so 5K 18 minutes, 5 miles 30 minutes and a 38 minute 10K. I've done a half in 1:29 but I'm really a shorter distance runner. I only did one marathon and experienced cramp for the last 7 miles and finished in 3:21. I'm also an old bastard so you've got no excuses Yeah, I'm miles away from all those times!! My first race is Tatton 10k in a fortnight, so we have that in common! Take a good towel and wet wipes or some equivalent
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Post by Northy on Oct 19, 2019 19:54:16 GMT
9 years since my mate Northy persuaded me to do the Tatton Park 10K and I send him a PM every day to thank him for it I've had knee issues on and off for the last two years but set new PBs for 7 years in a row up to 2 years ago so 5K 18 minutes, 5 miles 30 minutes and a 38 minute 10K. I've done a half in 1:29 but I'm really a shorter distance runner. I only did one marathon and experienced cramp for the last 7 miles and finished in 3:21. I'm also an old bastard so you've got no excuses Yeah, I'm miles away from all those times!! My first race is Tatton 10k in a fortnight, so we have that in common! It's a different one, it was the Tatton Yule Yomp, slightly different to the 10ks they do now
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Post by Northy on Oct 19, 2019 19:56:49 GMT
Yeah, I'm miles away from all those times!! My first race is Tatton 10k in a fortnight, so we have that in common! Take a good towel and wet wipes or some equivalent And money for the cafe's and farm shop, we got nice venison from there last weekend
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Post by Northy on Oct 19, 2019 19:58:46 GMT
What are your PBs for 5k, 10k, half etc? How long have you been running? 9 years since my mate Northy persuaded me to do the Tatton Park 10K and I send him a PM every day to thank him for it I've had knee issues on and off for the last two years but set new PBs for 7 years in a row up to 2 years ago so 5K 18 minutes, 5 miles 30 minutes and a 38 minute 10K. I've done a half in 1:29 but I'm really a shorter distance runner. I only did one marathon and experienced cramp for the last 7 miles and finished in 3:21. I'm also an old bastard so you've got no excuses Was that one a bit cold, driving hail and sliding in the mud? Not seen you there since 😁
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Post by Northy on Oct 19, 2019 20:00:07 GMT
The English half marathon was cancelled this year with about 3 days to go. I've signed up for Manchester marathon next year, think you did it this year ? Yp, done it the last 2 years & loved it. Next year the route actually goes through the City centre I believe...and if it wasn't for the fact I will be in Florida I would have booked up too! Yes theyve changed the route. Trying to persuade the mrs on the Prague marathon as well.
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Post by felonious on Oct 19, 2019 20:08:12 GMT
9 years since my mate Northy persuaded me to do the Tatton Park 10K and I send him a PM every day to thank him for it I've had knee issues on and off for the last two years but set new PBs for 7 years in a row up to 2 years ago so 5K 18 minutes, 5 miles 30 minutes and a 38 minute 10K. I've done a half in 1:29 but I'm really a shorter distance runner. I only did one marathon and experienced cramp for the last 7 miles and finished in 3:21. I'm also an old bastard so you've got no excuses Was that one a bit cold, driving hail and sliding in the mud? Not seen you there since 😁 With a bit of ice thrown in on the lane..... much prefer the Whitley route
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Post by felonious on Oct 20, 2019 14:42:33 GMT
Another 10 miles on the new improved Flying Fox 10 mile course route with the latest female member coming off the Stone Master Marathoners production line. She's going to be rapid such a shame the men let the side down
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Post by Northy on Oct 21, 2019 12:44:52 GMT
Was that one a bit cold, driving hail and sliding in the mud? Not seen you there since 😁 With a bit of ice thrown in on the lane..... much prefer the Whitley route Oh yeh, sliding all over thst and tip toeing on what little grass verge there was, that cold that the sweat in my hair had frozen white
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 21, 2019 18:31:32 GMT
Just done my second 10k this evening. Same route as last time. Biddulph to Congleton and back.
Took 4 minutes off my previous time. From 56:30 down to 52:30. I felt like I wasnt too far off my limit though, so that will probably be my ballpark target time for Tatton. Can't see me going much quicker, unless its incredibly flat.
Happy enough with that time though. I'm a lot further forward than I thought I would be when I started running outdoors only a month ago.
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Post by felonious on Oct 22, 2019 6:42:33 GMT
Just done my second 10k this evening. Same route as last time. Biddulph to Congleton and back. Took 4 minutes off my previous time. From 56:30 down to 52:30. I felt like I wasnt too far off my limit though, so that will probably be my ballpark target time for Tatton. Can't see me going much quicker, unless its incredibly flat. Happy enough with that time though. I'm a lot further forward than I thought I would be when I started running outdoors only a month ago. From memory, 9 years ago, Tatton wasn't an easy course mainly because it was multi surface, wet in places and icy on the lanes plus it was undulating. I remember doing 46 minutes having done 43 at the flat and fast Tamworth course just over a month before. Have you looked at Biddulph Running Club? I run with a few of their runners on Saturday mornings.
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 22, 2019 8:20:44 GMT
Just done my second 10k this evening. Same route as last time. Biddulph to Congleton and back. Took 4 minutes off my previous time. From 56:30 down to 52:30. I felt like I wasnt too far off my limit though, so that will probably be my ballpark target time for Tatton. Can't see me going much quicker, unless its incredibly flat. Happy enough with that time though. I'm a lot further forward than I thought I would be when I started running outdoors only a month ago. From memory, 9 years ago, Tatton wasn't an easy course mainly because it was multi surface, wet in places and icy on the lanes plus it was undulating. I remember doing 46 minutes having done 43 at the flat and fast Tamworth course just over a month before. Have you looked at Biddulph Running Club? I run with a few of their runners on Saturday mornings. Would you mind clearing something up for me mate? I keep looking at different courses and routes, and the word "undulating" keeps popping up. It just seems a bit vague. What exactly does it mean? Is it just a case of meaning "rarely flat" (I.e. constantly up or downhill)? Does it mean gradual or steep?? As for Biddulph Running Club, yes I've thought about it quite a bit actually, and even been on their website a few times looking at the details etc (I got my 10k Biddulph/Congelton route from their website in fact), but they run at 6.30pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I've got 2 young kids and those times dont really work for me (it clashes with tea time/bath time etc). I tend to go out first thing in the morning or around 5pm in the evening.
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Post by felonious on Oct 22, 2019 8:34:57 GMT
From memory, 9 years ago, Tatton wasn't an easy course mainly because it was multi surface, wet in places and icy on the lanes plus it was undulating. I remember doing 46 minutes having done 43 at the flat and fast Tamworth course just over a month before. Have you looked at Biddulph Running Club? I run with a few of their runners on Saturday mornings. Would you mind clearing something up for me mate? I keep looking at different courses and routes, and the word "undulating" keeps popping up. It just seems a bit vague. What exactly does it mean? Is it just a case of meaning "rarely flat" (I.e. constantly up or downhill)? Does it mean gradual or steep?? As for Biddulph Running Club, yes I've thought about it quite a bit actually, and even been on their website a few times looking at the details etc (I got my 10k Biddulph/Congelton route from their website in fact), but they run at 6.30pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I've got 2 young kids and those times dont really work for me (it clashes with tea time/bath time etc). I tend to go out first thing in the morning or around 5pm in the evening. The Tatton run came after only three months of running but I remember there were quite a few long drags up and down although the road finish as I remember was fairly flatish. The route constantly rising or falling gives rise to the use of the word undulating and basically every route across the Potteries will include an element of this. Even the Clayton 10K is undulating. All those years of driving through Clayton had convinced me it was flat.... until I ran on it The girl I ran with on Sunday has the same weekday problem with young kids..... she won't miss putting them to bed and therefore can't do the Tuesday/Thursday sessions.
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Post by Northy on Oct 22, 2019 8:48:07 GMT
From memory, 9 years ago, Tatton wasn't an easy course mainly because it was multi surface, wet in places and icy on the lanes plus it was undulating. I remember doing 46 minutes having done 43 at the flat and fast Tamworth course just over a month before. Have you looked at Biddulph Running Club? I run with a few of their runners on Saturday mornings. Would you mind clearing something up for me mate? I keep looking at different courses and routes, and the word "undulating" keeps popping up. It just seems a bit vague. What exactly does it mean? Is it just a case of meaning "rarely flat" (I.e. constantly up or downhill)? Does it mean gradual or steep?? As for Biddulph Running Club, yes I've thought about it quite a bit actually, and even been on their website a few times looking at the details etc (I got my 10k Biddulph/Congelton route from their website in fact), but they run at 6.30pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I've got 2 young kids and those times dont really work for me (it clashes with tea time/bath time etc). I tend to go out first thing in the morning or around 5pm in the evening. undulating means not flat and not very hilly, more of a rolling up and down slight inclines. If you want a flat and fast 10k, the Cheshire 10k in November is flat.
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 22, 2019 12:16:47 GMT
This is the profile of my 10k run I have been training on. Any idea how this will compare to Tatton? ... Splits below
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 22, 2019 12:17:38 GMT
Would you mind clearing something up for me mate? I keep looking at different courses and routes, and the word "undulating" keeps popping up. It just seems a bit vague. What exactly does it mean? Is it just a case of meaning "rarely flat" (I.e. constantly up or downhill)? Does it mean gradual or steep?? As for Biddulph Running Club, yes I've thought about it quite a bit actually, and even been on their website a few times looking at the details etc (I got my 10k Biddulph/Congelton route from their website in fact), but they run at 6.30pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I've got 2 young kids and those times dont really work for me (it clashes with tea time/bath time etc). I tend to go out first thing in the morning or around 5pm in the evening. The Tatton run came after only three months of running but I remember there were quite a few long drags up and down although the road finish as I remember was fairly flatish. The route constantly rising or falling gives rise to the use of the word undulating and basically every route across the Potteries will include an element of this. Even the Clayton 10K is undulating. All those years of driving through Clayton had convinced me it was flat.... until I ran on it The girl I ran with on Sunday has the same weekday problem with young kids..... she won't miss putting them to bed and therefore can't do the Tuesday/Thursday sessions. Where do you run on weekends? If you dont mind me asking.
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Post by felonious on Oct 22, 2019 12:45:59 GMT
The Tatton run came after only three months of running but I remember there were quite a few long drags up and down although the road finish as I remember was fairly flatish. The route constantly rising or falling gives rise to the use of the word undulating and basically every route across the Potteries will include an element of this. Even the Clayton 10K is undulating. All those years of driving through Clayton had convinced me it was flat.... until I ran on it The girl I ran with on Sunday has the same weekday problem with young kids..... she won't miss putting them to bed and therefore can't do the Tuesday/Thursday sessions. Where do you run on weekends? If you dont mind me asking. I join up with the old Bourne Sports run which now runs out of Fenton Manor. They meet up at 8:30 and various runs go off from there with most coming back to the cafe for drinks afterwards. The nice thing about it is that numerous local clubs are represented so it has a completely different feel to a club run/atmosphere. All are welcome, independents, cyclists who want a run, etc I've been running there for 8 years now..... I only went down to get some clips for the lads football nets got talking to a couple of the older lads from Newcastle AC and Michelin AC and I've been going there ever since
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Post by Timmypotter on Oct 22, 2019 12:48:46 GMT
From memory, 9 years ago, Tatton wasn't an easy course mainly because it was multi surface, wet in places and icy on the lanes plus it was undulating. I remember doing 46 minutes having done 43 at the flat and fast Tamworth course just over a month before. Have you looked at Biddulph Running Club? I run with a few of their runners on Saturday mornings. Would you mind clearing something up for me mate? I keep looking at different courses and routes, and the word "undulating" keeps popping up. It just seems a bit vague. What exactly does it mean? Is it just a case of meaning "rarely flat" (I.e. constantly up or downhill)? Does it mean gradual or steep?? As for Biddulph Running Club, yes I've thought about it quite a bit actually, and even been on their website a few times looking at the details etc (I got my 10k Biddulph/Congelton route from their website in fact), but they run at 6.30pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I've got 2 young kids and those times dont really work for me (it clashes with tea time/bath time etc). I tend to go out first thing in the morning or around 5pm in the evening. It's generally best to be wary of other people's idea of flat/undulating/hilly in my experience. My idea of undulating I'd say world be any 'lumpy' run with up to 25/30ish metres of climb per km. But I run a lot of hills as I have little choice so that might equate to someone else's hilly. To a lot of lads who win fell races, they'd see that as a flattish run. I went on a walking holiday in Nepal and the route was described to me as slightly undulating. Suffice to say the Nepalese idea of undulating wasn't the same as mine and I was in bed asleep by 7.30 every night. I guess there's a reason the Ghurkas are the hardest lads around.
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Post by yes on Oct 22, 2019 13:29:43 GMT
Would you mind clearing something up for me mate? I keep looking at different courses and routes, and the word "undulating" keeps popping up. It just seems a bit vague. What exactly does it mean? Is it just a case of meaning "rarely flat" (I.e. constantly up or downhill)? Does it mean gradual or steep?? As for Biddulph Running Club, yes I've thought about it quite a bit actually, and even been on their website a few times looking at the details etc (I got my 10k Biddulph/Congelton route from their website in fact), but they run at 6.30pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I've got 2 young kids and those times dont really work for me (it clashes with tea time/bath time etc). I tend to go out first thing in the morning or around 5pm in the evening. The Tatton run came after only three months of running but I remember there were quite a few long drags up and down although the road finish as I remember was fairly flatish. The route constantly rising or falling gives rise to the use of the word undulating and basically every route across the Potteries will include an element of this. Even the Clayton 10K is undulating. All those years of driving through Clayton had convinced me it was flat.... until I ran on it The girl I ran with on Sunday has the same weekday problem with young kids..... she won't miss putting them to bed and therefore can't do the Tuesday/Thursday sessions. Get her out with us, we've been running up at Keele every Tuesday/Thursday at 5:45am, perfect for busy family life if you're a bit unhinged.
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Post by felonious on Oct 22, 2019 13:38:29 GMT
The Tatton run came after only three months of running but I remember there were quite a few long drags up and down although the road finish as I remember was fairly flatish. The route constantly rising or falling gives rise to the use of the word undulating and basically every route across the Potteries will include an element of this. Even the Clayton 10K is undulating. All those years of driving through Clayton had convinced me it was flat.... until I ran on it The girl I ran with on Sunday has the same weekday problem with young kids..... she won't miss putting them to bed and therefore can't do the Tuesday/Thursday sessions. Get her out with us, we've been running up at Keele every Tuesday/Thursday at 5:45am, perfect for busy family life if you're a bit unhinged. I'll pass the message on but she's based in Eccleshall and hubby can be on call out.
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