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Post by Northy on Oct 7, 2019 7:18:13 GMT
How seriously should I take running gear? I know trainers are vital (I got a new pair today) but what about socks, shorts, tops etc? Trainers aside, does the rest make much difference? And if it does, what should I be looking for? I did a 7.5k run today (my longest run to date, slowly building for my 1st 10k at Tatton Park on 2nd November) and it took me just under 40 minutes, so I'm really happy with that time. The original goal was to break 1 hour for 10k, so I think I'm well on target to achieve that. Look at double skin socks if you are going for longer distances or get blisters, I use Hilly ones.
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Post by Northy on Oct 7, 2019 7:21:01 GMT
Official 1:45 pacer at Basingstoke half today. Finished in 1:44:57 - I think that's reasonable enough. Last year I was also 1:45 pacer and finished in 1:44:40, so not sure if I'm getting slower or better as I get older I was in Basingstoke last Monday night, (holiday Inn) absolutely pissed it down all evening, no chance of getting out for a run. Slow hungover 5 miler for me yesterday, IT bands still not right after previous weeks Sandstone trail.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 7, 2019 12:53:01 GMT
2:01 for Cardiff half today. A tad disappointed yes, but in all honesty went off too fast with a 51 min 10k.....and felt the marathon legs from last week kick in when heading around Roath. Only real downside is getting a notification whilst in traffic that a runner died today :-( It was warmer than planned, and did see enough people in distress Didn't 2 blokes pass away at last years race too? Seems a high casualty rate for "only" a half marathon. Is it a particularly tough course? Correct, 2 died the other year in same race Is it a tough course? Not in my eyes no..a few not to harsh climbs, but that might be where the problem lies. Its fast. The course record was broken yesterday & now stands at 59.43! I know personally I went off to quick yesterday for my 1st 10k, especially being a week after Barnstaple. Anyhow for once I had a good look at my strava detailed breakdown, and at its highest my heart rate was 175bpm! Still....its that time of year again Oatcake Runners, so whose had the book of rejection & training top for London 2020?
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Post by yes on Oct 7, 2019 13:32:04 GMT
Didn't 2 blokes pass away at last years race too? Seems a high casualty rate for "only" a half marathon. Is it a particularly tough course? Correct, 2 died the other year in same race Is it a tough course? Not in my eyes no..a few not to harsh climbs, but that might be where the problem lies. Its fast. The course record was broken yesterday & now stands at 59.43! I know personally I went off to quick yesterday for my 1st 10k, especially being a week after Barnstaple. Anyhow for once I had a good look at my strava detailed breakdown, and at its highest my heart rate was 175bpm! Still....its that time of year again Oatcake Runners, so whose had the book of rejection & training top for London 2020? I think it could just be bad luck. It seems like all three that have died have been quite healthy blokes too. Lots of fast courses out there that haven't had the same problems. Not heard anything yet, no magazine or email today, not that fussed at the moment, full focus on Yorkshire!
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 7, 2019 13:56:13 GMT
Correct, 2 died the other year in same race Is it a tough course? Not in my eyes no..a few not to harsh climbs, but that might be where the problem lies. Its fast. The course record was broken yesterday & now stands at 59.43! I know personally I went off to quick yesterday for my 1st 10k, especially being a week after Barnstaple. Anyhow for once I had a good look at my strava detailed breakdown, and at its highest my heart rate was 175bpm! Still....its that time of year again Oatcake Runners, so whose had the book of rejection & training top for London 2020? I think it could just be bad luck. It seems like all three that have died have been quite healthy blokes too. Lots of fast courses out there that haven't had the same problems. Not heard anything yet, no magazine or email today, not that fussed at the moment, full focus on Yorkshire! Same here, not fussed or heard owt...and to be honest more tempted by Berlin!
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Post by Northy on Oct 7, 2019 15:27:18 GMT
Didn't 2 blokes pass away at last years race too? Seems a high casualty rate for "only" a half marathon. Is it a particularly tough course? Correct, 2 died the other year in same race Is it a tough course? Not in my eyes no..a few not to harsh climbs, but that might be where the problem lies. Its fast. The course record was broken yesterday & now stands at 59.43! I know personally I went off to quick yesterday for my 1st 10k, especially being a week after Barnstaple. Anyhow for once I had a good look at my strava detailed breakdown, and at its highest my heart rate was 175bpm! Still....its that time of year again Oatcake Runners, so whose had the book of rejection & training top for London 2020? Nothing for me yet, we've got until Friday I think. I'm off to Amsterdam with work so will celebrate getting in over there
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Post by hamptonpig on Oct 7, 2019 17:15:11 GMT
Not heard anything yet, fully expecting to get the rejection again. Didn't even go for the training top this time. More excited about entering the ballot for the OCC at next years UTMB now I have enough points!!
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 7, 2019 17:41:06 GMT
Ran 7.7km this evening at an average pace of 5:07 per km.
That is my longest run to date and also my quickest pace. Very happy with that double up.
Set my PB for 5k in the process too, finally breaking 25 minutes (24:53).
Reasonably hilly run too. Very happy all round with that effort.
I was originally targetting 1 hour for my first 10k next month, but I might lower that by a few minutes now. I will see how training goes over the next couple of weeks.
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Post by Timmypotter on Oct 7, 2019 18:19:49 GMT
Ran 7.7km this evening at an average pace of 5:07 per km. That is my longest run to date and also my quickest pace. Very happy with that double up. Set my PB for 5k in the process too, finally breaking 25 minutes (24:53). Reasonably hilly run too. Very happy all round with that effort. I was originally targetting 1 hour for my first 10k next month, but I might lower that by a few minutes now. I will see how training goes over the next couple of weeks. Target 50 minutes at least (or rather, at most). You can definitely do that if you've just done 8 km in training at 5:07 pace.
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Post by Timmypotter on Oct 7, 2019 18:30:55 GMT
Didn't 2 blokes pass away at last years race too? Seems a high casualty rate for "only" a half marathon. Is it a particularly tough course? Correct, 2 died the other year in same race Is it a tough course? Not in my eyes no..a few not to harsh climbs, but that might be where the problem lies. Its fast. The course record was broken yesterday & now stands at 59.43! I know personally I went off to quick yesterday for my 1st 10k, especially being a week after Barnstaple. Anyhow for once I had a good look at my strava detailed breakdown, and at its highest my heart rate was 175bpm! Still....its that time of year again Oatcake Runners, so whose had the book of rejection & training top for London 2020? How old are you Worcester (if you don't mind me asking)? Unless you're past 60 then a peak of 175 isn't anything to worry about. At 37 that's what I'd hope to average for a 10k - peaked at 195 yesterday for the Congleton half. Obviously everyone's different though - my Mrs has a resting heart rate of about 50 even when she's not been running much, but never seems to go much past 150 even doing a 5k (I say she's not trying hard enough).
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 7, 2019 18:48:25 GMT
Ran 7.7km this evening at an average pace of 5:07 per km. That is my longest run to date and also my quickest pace. Very happy with that double up. Set my PB for 5k in the process too, finally breaking 25 minutes (24:53). Reasonably hilly run too. Very happy all round with that effort. I was originally targetting 1 hour for my first 10k next month, but I might lower that by a few minutes now. I will see how training goes over the next couple of weeks. Target 50 minutes at least (or rather, at most). You can definitely do that if you've just done 8 km in training at 5:07 pace. You are probably right but I'd rather set a higher target and be happy with getting under it, instead of setting too tough a target and failing to hit it. That might sound a bit negative, but its normally a better mindset for me and takes a bit pressure off. It's the first time I've ever broken 25 minutes for 5k today so expecting to maintain that pace for double the distance might just be a bit too much for my first 10k attempt......but we'll see!!
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Post by basingstokie on Oct 7, 2019 19:04:52 GMT
Target 50 minutes at least (or rather, at most). You can definitely do that if you've just done 8 km in training at 5:07 pace. You are probably right but I'd rather set a higher target and be happy with getting under it, instead of setting too tough a target and failing to hit it. That might sound a bit negative, but its normally a better mindset for me and takes a bit pressure off. It's the first time I've ever broken 25 minutes for 5k today so expecting to maintain that pace for double the distance might just be a bit too much for my first 10k attempt......but we'll see!! For experienced runners (non elite though) 5k *2 +30-60 secs is a decent benchmark for 10k time. 50 might be a bit ambitious for now, but you may do it and as you are fairly new to running I'd be confident it won't be too long before you absolutely smash 50 in a race
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 7, 2019 19:13:40 GMT
You are probably right but I'd rather set a higher target and be happy with getting under it, instead of setting too tough a target and failing to hit it. That might sound a bit negative, but its normally a better mindset for me and takes a bit pressure off. It's the first time I've ever broken 25 minutes for 5k today so expecting to maintain that pace for double the distance might just be a bit too much for my first 10k attempt......but we'll see!! For experienced runners (non elite though) 5k *2 +30-60 secs is a decent benchmark for 10k time. 50 might be a bit ambitious for now, but you may do it and as you are fairly new to running I'd be confident it won't be too long before you absolutely smash 50 in a race Sorry mate, can you explain that formula a bit clearer? Apologies if I'm being stupid!
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Post by salopstick on Oct 7, 2019 20:15:45 GMT
For experienced runners (non elite though) 5k *2 +30-60 secs is a decent benchmark for 10k time. 50 might be a bit ambitious for now, but you may do it and as you are fairly new to running I'd be confident it won't be too long before you absolutely smash 50 in a race Sorry mate, can you explain that formula a bit clearer? Apologies if I'm being stupid! 2x 5km time + 30-60 seconds
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 7, 2019 20:31:51 GMT
Sorry mate, can you explain that formula a bit clearer? Apologies if I'm being stupid! 2x 5km time + 30-60 seconds Ok. So I've just ran 24:53 for 5k tonight. So 49:46 (or between 50:16 and 48:46) - is that right? Why would the minus figure be higher? I would have thought the longer you run the more your time might suffer, so +60 -30 would make more sense?
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Post by Northy on Oct 8, 2019 7:03:00 GMT
2x 5km time + 30-60 seconds Ok. So I've just ran 24:53 for 5k tonight. So 49:46 (or between 50:16 and 48:46) - is that right? Why would the minus figure be higher? I would have thought the longer you run the more your time might suffer, so +60 -30 would make more sense? Think he means add 30 to 60 seconds on
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 8, 2019 12:19:45 GMT
Ok. So I've just ran 24:53 for 5k tonight. So 49:46 (or between 50:16 and 48:46) - is that right? Why would the minus figure be higher? I would have thought the longer you run the more your time might suffer, so +60 -30 would make more sense? Think he means add 30 to 60 seconds on That makes much more sense 😁😂 Cheers mate.
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 9, 2019 6:15:00 GMT
Do achey shins last forever?
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Post by hamptonpig on Oct 9, 2019 6:59:56 GMT
Do achey shins last forever? If it's shin splints it'll seem like it! Can be from doing to much too soon or the wrong trainers (amongst other things). Took me over a year to get over mine after I came back from injury too soon. Get in to see Brian at Cole's. He'll check you over and do you a gait analysis too. I was wearing the wrong type of trainer for the first year of my running life.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 9, 2019 17:01:31 GMT
Correct, 2 died the other year in same race Is it a tough course? Not in my eyes no..a few not to harsh climbs, but that might be where the problem lies. Its fast. The course record was broken yesterday & now stands at 59.43! I know personally I went off to quick yesterday for my 1st 10k, especially being a week after Barnstaple. Anyhow for once I had a good look at my strava detailed breakdown, and at its highest my heart rate was 175bpm! Still....its that time of year again Oatcake Runners, so whose had the book of rejection & training top for London 2020? How old are you Worcester (if you don't mind me asking)? Unless you're past 60 then a peak of 175 isn't anything to worry about. At 37 that's what I'd hope to average for a 10k - peaked at 195 yesterday for the Congleton half. Obviously everyone's different though - my Mrs has a resting heart rate of about 50 even when she's not been running much, but never seems to go much past 150 even doing a 5k (I say she's not trying hard enough). 47 chap ...and just to add, its a no for London too!
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 12, 2019 9:20:52 GMT
Did Congleton Park Run this morning and smashed my PB again!
After managing sub 25 in the week I went sub 24 today, taking another minute off my best!!
Very happy with that time.
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Post by Northy on Oct 12, 2019 17:02:36 GMT
Correct, 2 died the other year in same race Is it a tough course? Not in my eyes no..a few not to harsh climbs, but that might be where the problem lies. Its fast. The course record was broken yesterday & now stands at 59.43! I know personally I went off to quick yesterday for my 1st 10k, especially being a week after Barnstaple. Anyhow for once I had a good look at my strava detailed breakdown, and at its highest my heart rate was 175bpm! Still....its that time of year again Oatcake Runners, so whose had the book of rejection & training top for London 2020? Nothing for me yet, we've got until Friday I think. I'm off to Amsterdam with work so will celebrate getting in over there A big fat no for me. 1 lady in our club whose only been running a year, got in at her first attempt
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Post by felonious on Oct 12, 2019 17:13:43 GMT
Nothing for me yet, we've got until Friday I think. I'm off to Amsterdam with work so will celebrate getting in over there A big fat no for me. 1 lady in our club whose only been running a year, got in at her first attempt This is the one you need, The Exe to the Axe. Mrs Northy can sit on a balcony in Sidmouth and watch you belting down the promenade I heard rumours this week they may turn it into a marathon. www.sidmouthrunningclub.co.uk/jps-exe-to-axe-2019/
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Post by felonious on Oct 12, 2019 17:16:07 GMT
Did Congleton Park Run this morning and smashed my PB again! After managing sub 25 in the week I went sub 24 today, taking another minute off my best!! Very happy with that time. Well done you'll be complaining about the slow runners holding you up in a few weeks
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Post by Timmypotter on Oct 12, 2019 17:37:18 GMT
Did Congleton Park Run this morning and smashed my PB again! After managing sub 25 in the week I went sub 24 today, taking another minute off my best!! Very happy with that time. This must give you the confidence to go for a sub 50 10k now. You're definitely capable. You're still learning how far you can push yourself in a race so you'll have a few more 5k PBs to come as well. I think when you start taking running a bit more seriously you often get PBs simply by increasing the amount of pain you're willing to tolerate 😁 it's such a fun sport!
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Post by royalewithcheese on Oct 12, 2019 19:33:45 GMT
Did Congleton Park Run this morning and smashed my PB again! After managing sub 25 in the week I went sub 24 today, taking another minute off my best!! Very happy with that time. This must give you the confidence to go for a sub 50 10k now. You're definitely capable. You're still learning how far you can push yourself in a race so you'll have a few more 5k PBs to come as well. I think when you start taking running a bit more seriously you often get PBs simply by increasing the amount of pain you're willing to tolerate 😁 it's such a fun sport! It was completely unexpected today. I certainly wasn't targetting anywhere near that fast. I hope theres better times still in the tank, but I did feel like I was pushing it to the limit today. I was really struggling on the 4th and 5th kilometre. I'm planning a couple of slower, longer runs this week, to build up to the 10k. I'm using weekend Park Run as my speed run, and the longer midweek runs seem to be helping my times. I'm really enjoying running. Its completely addictive. I've always kept fit. I went the gym for quite a few years when I was younger and had no kids. And I've done HIIT workouts from home for a couple of years too, to keep fit. I've always wanted to get up early and workout before work, but I've never had the motivation when the alarm clock goes off. That has changed with running. I'm now happy to get up at 5.30am and go our for a run before work. It isn't even a chore getting out of bed, I'm just looking forward to the run and the feeling it leaves me with for the rest of the day once I've finished. Its the best thing I've ever got involved with. I absolutely love it.
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Post by hamptonpig on Oct 13, 2019 14:58:16 GMT
Just back home from Snowdon Ultra. Brutal. 50 miles including Snowdon, the Glyders, Devils Kitchen, Pen yr Ole Wen (near vertical scambling/climbing in the dark with head torch) and more. Self Navigation with route changes on the fly due to adverse weather. I'm not moving far today!
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Post by Northy on Oct 13, 2019 15:06:57 GMT
Just back home from Snowdon Ultra. Brutal. 50 miles including Snowdon, the Glyders, Devils Kitchen, Pen yr Ole Wen (near vertical scambling/climbing in the dark with head torch) and more. Self Navigation with route changes on the fly due to adverse weather. I'm not moving far today! Wow, great going, a gentle 10k this morning followed by bacon butties and cake 😋
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 13, 2019 15:27:57 GMT
Support duties today in Birmingham for the half....except they announce to those in the pens that its now not a half due to safety concerns (Cannon Hill Park surface water...)
Some pretty pissed off people from my Club who a) didn't hear the message or b) wondered why at the finish the gamin was saying 11 miles....
Oh and it rained more last year & it was run as normal.!
Edit that...an update from the organisers
UPDATE: Following today’s Great Birmingham Run we apologise to everyone who had their event day experience affected by the reduced distance of the course. This morning we were advised of a suspicious vehicle in the Cannon Hill Park area of the route. Your safety is our number one priority and after consultation with the police we altered the route to avoid Cannon Hill Park and Edgbaston. A decision, again in consultation with the police, was made to progress with the event over the reduced distance and we can assure participants and spectators that their safety was not compromised at any point. At a later point in the day the vehicle was subsequently declared as safe. We’ll be in direct contact with all participants in the coming days, thanks for your understanding.
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Post by yes on Oct 13, 2019 16:08:32 GMT
Support duties today in Birmingham for the half....except they announce to those in the pens that its now not a half due to safety concerns (Cannon Hill Park surface water...) Some pretty pissed off people from my Club who a) didn't hear the message or b) wondered why at the finish the gamin was saying 11 miles.... Oh and it rained more last year & it was run as normal.! Edit that...an update from the organisers UPDATE: Following today’s Great Birmingham Run we apologise to everyone who had their event day experience affected by the reduced distance of the course. This morning we were advised of a suspicious vehicle in the Cannon Hill Park area of the route. Your safety is our number one priority and after consultation with the police we altered the route to avoid Cannon Hill Park and Edgbaston. A decision, again in consultation with the police, was made to progress with the event over the reduced distance and we can assure participants and spectators that their safety was not compromised at any point. At a later point in the day the vehicle was subsequently declared as safe. We’ll be in direct contact with all participants in the coming days, thanks for your understanding. Right decision, but yeah I'd be pissed off if I hadn't heard the announcement. 14 miles yesterday for me. Miles have come right down, doesn't feel right!
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