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Post by yes on Feb 4, 2024 17:40:41 GMT
Nice to see you today Felonious, albeit very briefly!
Not my greatest run today but not too bad either as I’ve been struggling with my calf.
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Post by felonious on Feb 4, 2024 18:01:31 GMT
Nice to see you today Felonious, albeit very briefly! Not my greatest run today but not too bad either as I’ve been struggling with my calf. You were looking good passing the end of Lodge Road around the 4 mile point
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Post by Orbs on Feb 4, 2024 18:03:16 GMT
Just done my 5th half marathon in 5 weeks. I’m coming in around 1:58:00 at the moment, so pleased with that. Made all the better this morning by some Milf cycling past me in Battersea Park and shouting ‘wahey Stoke City!’ at my top I did 52 HMs last year Tommy. I managed one a week then got behind in November so ended up doing 3 I the last week of 2023 to get the 52 in. I didn’t get any faster but (kind of) enjoyed the challenge. It’s helpful to have 3 or 4 different routes too. Good luck!
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Post by Orbs on Feb 4, 2024 18:03:48 GMT
Nice to see you today Felonious, albeit very briefly! Not my greatest run today but not too bad either as I’ve been struggling with my calf. Did he use any big, complicated words?
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Post by felonious on Feb 4, 2024 18:26:19 GMT
Nice to see you today Felonious, albeit very briefly! Not my greatest run today but not too bad either as I’ve been struggling with my calf. Did he use any big, complicated words? Didn't have a chance the bloody poser was off for his photo shoot
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Post by felonious on Feb 4, 2024 18:28:28 GMT
It was nice to see cactus72 today for a brief chat
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Post by yes on Feb 4, 2024 19:08:29 GMT
Did he use any big, complicated words? Didn't have a chance the bloody poser was off for his photo shoot Got to take advantage of these youthful looks whilst they last…
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Feb 4, 2024 19:52:07 GMT
Nice to see you today Felonious, albeit very briefly! Not my greatest run today but not too bad either as I’ve been struggling with my calf. You were looking good passing the end of Lodge Road around the 4 mile point I ran the Alsager 5 today if it's the same Lodge Road. My first road race! I seem to have hurt my right calf today.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Feb 5, 2024 10:50:13 GMT
Just done my 5th half marathon in 5 weeks. I’m coming in around 1:58:00 at the moment, so pleased with that. Made all the better this morning by some Milf cycling past me in Battersea Park and shouting ‘wahey Stoke City!’ at my top I did 52 HMs last year Tommy. I managed one a week then got behind in November so ended up doing 3 I the last week of 2023 to get the 52 in. I didn’t get any faster but (kind of) enjoyed the challenge. It’s helpful to have 3 or 4 different routes too. Good luck! How come you didn't get any faster Orbs? Do you think it's more about the endurance? I'm running between 35k - 40k per week in total, which feels manageable at the minute.
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Post by Northy on Feb 5, 2024 15:53:25 GMT
Looks like there was a few out at Alsager yesterday, my work colleague ran it but DNF at about 4 miles, an injury.
I was slow easy Sunday run, 17 miles, did 11 on my own and 6 with the club, we had a guest from Wrekin Road Runners, so we took him across muddy fields and paths, but he enjoyed going around the perimeter of Joe Hart's 'house' being ex Shrewsbury.
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Post by Orbs on Feb 5, 2024 18:32:36 GMT
I did 52 HMs last year Tommy. I managed one a week then got behind in November so ended up doing 3 I the last week of 2023 to get the 52 in. I didn’t get any faster but (kind of) enjoyed the challenge. It’s helpful to have 3 or 4 different routes too. Good luck! How come you didn't get any faster Orbs? Do you think it's more about the endurance? I'm running between 35k - 40k per week in total, which feels manageable at the minute. It’s a strange one really. My PB is 1:48 and some of them in Spring were around 1:52/1:53 but then they just kind of tailed off to the 2 hour mark. I guess I didn’t want the added stress of always trying to beat the previous time and it just became about doing the 52 in 52.
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Post by mrrine on Feb 6, 2024 19:08:45 GMT
Anyone have any logic for feeling decent when you run?
I'll do the same route and I'll feel horrific/fine/good/fast/slow based on very little difference in input.
General advice welcome!
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Post by iancransonsknees on Feb 6, 2024 22:18:41 GMT
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Feb 6, 2024 23:54:38 GMT
Anyone have any logic for feeling decent when you run? I'll do the same route and I'll feel horrific/fine/good/fast/slow based on very little difference in input. General advice welcome! Having recently started this half marathon challenge for the year, I’m running at a consistent level now, which isn’t new to me but I have struggled to maintain consistency over say the course of the year before. What I have found recently is my mood is generally miles better, however, the ability for a single run to give me a quick endorphin hit diminishes significantly. For example, I absolutely hate Tuesdays. Always have done and always will, so what I tend to do is aggressively run home from the office in the evening to destress and make something good of the day at least. Last Tuesday was no exception and I thought to myself, a run home will sort me out, don’t worry. It didn’t, it just put me in a worse mood. By Wednesday morning I was sound and broadly speaking this has been the best start to a year I’ve perhaps had my entire life (touch wood). I just don’t know if there’s any science behind any of that. Tonight, I decided to do a shorter 10k route than repeat my longer run home from work, and feeling pretty good because I ran 48 minutes which I haven’t done in a while. So yes you’re right I’d say, there’s never any rhyme or reason really, just keep at it overtime I guess.
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Post by Orbs on Feb 7, 2024 14:55:35 GMT
Anyone have any logic for feeling decent when you run? I'll do the same route and I'll feel horrific/fine/good/fast/slow based on very little difference in input. General advice welcome! I always make sure I’ve eaten properly and am hydrated. I bet that can make a difference. However I feel during the run I always know I’ll feel better for doing it afterwards regardless so just go with it. (I also don’t try and run PBs so maybe try just go out for a run rather than trying to run quickly all the time?)
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Post by delilahwhy on Feb 8, 2024 3:51:08 GMT
Ran my first sub-50 10k last night for the first time in 4 years. Really chuffed with that.
The odd thing is, I've actually been running less for the past 4 or 5 months. I've been doing 2 or 3 HIIT workouts a week (all over HIITs which include cardio, legs and chest/arms/abs etc) and I'm finding it's really helping my running.
I'm probably only averaging one run a week in addition to the HIITs. Sometimes I get out twice a week. But my times just seem to keep improving, and I'm feeling stronger and fitter.
I expected the HIITs to have an impact over shorter distances, due to the intensity of them. However the HIITs only last 20 minutes, so I didn't expect it to improve my 10k/50min runs. If that makes sense?
Either way, its working for me.
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Post by delilahwhy on Feb 8, 2024 3:57:15 GMT
I did 52 HMs last year Tommy. I managed one a week then got behind in November so ended up doing 3 I the last week of 2023 to get the 52 in. I didn’t get any faster but (kind of) enjoyed the challenge. It’s helpful to have 3 or 4 different routes too. Good luck! How come you didn't get any faster Orbs? Do you think it's more about the endurance? I'm running between 35k - 40k per week in total, which feels manageable at the minute. I did a challenge 3 or 4 years ago mate. 10km every day, for 30 consecutive days. Obviously slightly different to what you are doing, but there are similarities. For the first 10 runs or so I purposely paced myself as I didn't want to burn out or risk injury. If mind serves me right, I was doing around 54/55 mins (against a PB of 49mins). As the runs went on I did actually start to feel stronger, and although I got all the aches and pains I was expecting, my times towards the end were generally low 50s (I never actually broke 50 or got a PB). I believe in order to get better and improve times/get PBs you need to do more than be repetitive (I.e. just run half marathons over and over again). You need to incorpate different types of runs (shorter faster ones, longer slower ones, fartleks/intervals, hill running etc). From doing HIITs recently I've fully appreciated the benefits of building leg muscle too (squats and lunges with weights etc). To keep getting quicker, you need to mix it up. Good luck with the challenge. Are you raising money?
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Post by delilahwhy on Feb 8, 2024 4:03:28 GMT
Anyone have any logic for feeling decent when you run? I'll do the same route and I'll feel horrific/fine/good/fast/slow based on very little difference in input. General advice welcome! I've never worked that one out mate!!! Some days I feel amazing and so positive and others it's just a grind and such hard work. On the bad days I just keep telling myself I'll feel better once it's done, and that is pretty much always the case. There will obviously be some science behind it (nutrition, hydration etc) however it will also be human nature and who we are as individuals. Stresses of work/life, pressures and responsibilities or any other issues we experience in life. That's why it's important to build habits and routines. If I was to rely on motivation alone, I'd hardly ever run or exercise!!! If you can form that habit then 9 times out of 10, even if you aren't feeling great, you'll still get it done and you'll feel much better afterwards. The mental benefits are every bit as important as the physical for me.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Feb 8, 2024 22:35:37 GMT
How come you didn't get any faster Orbs? Do you think it's more about the endurance? I'm running between 35k - 40k per week in total, which feels manageable at the minute. I did a challenge 3 or 4 years ago mate. 10km every day, for 30 consecutive days. Obviously slightly different to what you are doing, but there are similarities. For the first 10 runs or so I purposely paced myself as I didn't want to burn out or risk injury. If mind serves me right, I was doing around 54/55 mins (against a PB of 49mins). As the runs went on I did actually start to feel stronger, and although I got all the aches and pains I was expecting, my times towards the end were generally low 50s (I never actually broke 50 or got a PB). I believe in order to get better and improve times/get PBs you need to do more than be repetitive (I.e. just run half marathons over and over again). You need to incorpate different types of runs (shorter faster ones, longer slower ones, fartleks/intervals, hill running etc). From doing HIITs recently I've fully appreciated the benefits of building leg muscle too (squats and lunges with weights etc). To keep getting quicker, you need to mix it up. Good luck with the challenge. Are you raising money? That’s a fair effort to keep that sort of consistency day to day, fair play to you. Do you enjoy the HIITS? I don’t mind them but I’ve never been one who likes the gym. I hear what you’re saying with mixing it up. I ran a sub 50:00 10k on Tuesday and tonight I’ve done my 6th half marathon if the year and taken about 5 minutes off Saturday’s time - 1:53:05. Really didn’t fancy it tonight, minging weather (which is actually decent running weather I think once you get into it) and I was convinced I was gonna need a crap on the way round. So pretty pleased with the result. Raising money yes, although I’m hanging fire until I’ve completed 10 to set the page up I think. I’m doing it for Guts UK which is a charity that specialises in the treatment of pancreatitis.
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Post by delilahwhy on Feb 9, 2024 9:59:02 GMT
I did a challenge 3 or 4 years ago mate. 10km every day, for 30 consecutive days. Obviously slightly different to what you are doing, but there are similarities. For the first 10 runs or so I purposely paced myself as I didn't want to burn out or risk injury. If mind serves me right, I was doing around 54/55 mins (against a PB of 49mins). As the runs went on I did actually start to feel stronger, and although I got all the aches and pains I was expecting, my times towards the end were generally low 50s (I never actually broke 50 or got a PB). I believe in order to get better and improve times/get PBs you need to do more than be repetitive (I.e. just run half marathons over and over again). You need to incorpate different types of runs (shorter faster ones, longer slower ones, fartleks/intervals, hill running etc). From doing HIITs recently I've fully appreciated the benefits of building leg muscle too (squats and lunges with weights etc). To keep getting quicker, you need to mix it up. Good luck with the challenge. Are you raising money? That’s a fair effort to keep that sort of consistency day to day, fair play to you. Do you enjoy the HIITS? I don’t mind them but I’ve never been one who likes the gym. I hear what you’re saying with mixing it up. I ran a sub 50:00 10k on Tuesday and tonight I’ve done my 6th half marathon if the year and taken about 5 minutes off Saturday’s time - 1:53:05. Really didn’t fancy it tonight, minging weather (which is actually decent running weather I think once you get into it) and I was convinced I was gonna need a crap on the way round. So pretty pleased with the result. Raising money yes, although I’m hanging fire until I’ve completed 10 to set the page up I think. I’m doing it for Guts UK which is a charity that specialises in the treatment of pancreatitis. I love HIITs. And I do them from home which is really convenient, especially for time. Send me a link when it's up and running 👍👍 Good luck
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Feb 9, 2024 10:03:20 GMT
That’s a fair effort to keep that sort of consistency day to day, fair play to you. Do you enjoy the HIITS? I don’t mind them but I’ve never been one who likes the gym. I hear what you’re saying with mixing it up. I ran a sub 50:00 10k on Tuesday and tonight I’ve done my 6th half marathon if the year and taken about 5 minutes off Saturday’s time - 1:53:05. Really didn’t fancy it tonight, minging weather (which is actually decent running weather I think once you get into it) and I was convinced I was gonna need a crap on the way round. So pretty pleased with the result. Raising money yes, although I’m hanging fire until I’ve completed 10 to set the page up I think. I’m doing it for Guts UK which is a charity that specialises in the treatment of pancreatitis. I love HIITs. And I do them from home which is really convenient, especially for time. Send me a link when it's up and running 👍👍 Good luck Nice one mate, thank you.
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Post by Northy on Feb 13, 2024 14:39:23 GMT
Racked up 20 miles on Sunday morning, not quite the pace I'm after but it was a cold foggy morning, and I was carrying a backpack.
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Post by mrrine on Feb 15, 2024 17:55:46 GMT
A week and a half into this.
To save you wading through the vid if you don't feel like it, The bloke suggests 3X runs per week
Run 1 a 90min plus run at heart rate zone 2 / 3 conversational pace. (EDIT - Last friday I did about 12km but my heartrate was not remotely in that zone, it was way higher)
Run 2 a 20+min run at zone 3 /4 too fast to talk but nowhere near a sprint (EDIT Can hit this fairly well getting the right heart rate at about 7kmph pace)
Run 3 10 x 250m circuits at 85 /95% effort ( EDIT This is tonight - update to follow)
V grateful for your expertise &/or critique of this approach.
(Particularly grateful for tips for starting out on this as a "beginner")
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Feb 15, 2024 19:02:18 GMT
I accidentally almost ran a half marathon on Sunday when I took a wrong turning (the furthest I'd ran before was 12k). I was soaked within seconds after an unexpected downpour and couldn't see through my glasses steaming up and wet. I also had to wade through a flooded road, sidestep around another, and climb a couple of fences. It was rather muddy for a road run too.
It was great fun!
I even managed a 5:00/km pace, which was way faster than I expected given I wasn't pushing that hard and still felt good to continue by the end. I tried an energy gel for the first time which I'm guessing helped.
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Post by delilahwhy on Feb 15, 2024 23:09:16 GMT
I'm thinking of setting myself a challenge this year, and was interested in feedback.
I'm considering going for 15 half marathons in a month. So basically one every other day.
I'm not sure if that's a bit too much though? I did something similar a few years ago (10km every day for 30 days) so the overall distance would be quite similar for the month.
However I'm concerned about the extra toll that a half marathon will take on my body (compared to what a 10k run would) and it might catch up with me after a few. If that makes sense?
I would obviously take it steady and not be going for PBs every time etc.
It sounds a lot, but I do want to make it a tough challenge.
I'm in reasonable shape at the moment but I think with 6 or 8 weeks decent training, I'd be ready for it.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Feb 16, 2024 12:25:26 GMT
A week and a half into this. To save you wading through the vid if you don't feel like it, The bloke suggests 3X runs per week Run 1 a 90min plus run at heart rate zone 2 / 3 conversational pace. (EDIT - Last friday I did about 12km but my heartrate was not remotely in that zone, it was way higher) Run 2 a 20+min run at zone 3 /4 too fast to talk but nowhere near a sprint (EDIT Can hit this fairly well getting the right heart rate at about 7kmph pace) Run 3 10 x 250m circuits at 85 /95% effort ( EDIT This is tonight - update to follow) V grateful for your expertise &/or critique of this approach. (Particularly grateful for tips for starting out on this as a "beginner") I like the stuff on the McMillan Running website. He has plans for a range of distances. I keep trying the 5k one but then get interrupted by a holiday or cold or pain or something: www.mcmillanrunning.com/best-5k-workout/There's a brilliant article on there about how the different intensities of exercise change us physically, so it made me understand how running slow helps us run faster, for example. Until I read that I used to run fast more often than not.
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Post by mrrine on Feb 16, 2024 18:54:21 GMT
A week and a half into this. To save you wading through the vid if you don't feel like it, The bloke suggests 3X runs per week Run 1 a 90min plus run at heart rate zone 2 / 3 conversational pace. (EDIT - Last friday I did about 12km but my heartrate was not remotely in that zone, it was way higher) Run 2 a 20+min run at zone 3 /4 too fast to talk but nowhere near a sprint (EDIT Can hit this fairly well getting the right heart rate at about 7kmph pace) Run 3 10 x 250m circuits at 85 /95% effort ( EDIT This is tonight - update to follow) V grateful for your expertise &/or critique of this approach. (Particularly grateful for tips for starting out on this as a "beginner") I like the stuff on the McMillan Running website. He has plans for a range of distances. I keep trying the 5k one but then get interrupted by a holiday or cold or pain or something: www.mcmillanrunning.com/best-5k-workout/There's a brilliant article on there about how the different intensities of exercise change us physically, so it made me understand how running slow helps us run faster, for example. Until I read that I used to run fast more often than not. Super interesting site - can't find that exact article but there's so much good stuff on there. Will continue to read. I managed 5 of my 250m 90%'s Bitched out and went to bed after
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Feb 16, 2024 19:48:09 GMT
I like the stuff on the McMillan Running website. He has plans for a range of distances. I keep trying the 5k one but then get interrupted by a holiday or cold or pain or something: www.mcmillanrunning.com/best-5k-workout/There's a brilliant article on there about how the different intensities of exercise change us physically, so it made me understand how running slow helps us run faster, for example. Until I read that I used to run fast more often than not. Super interesting site - can't find that exact article but there's so much good stuff on there. Will continue to read. I managed 5 of my 250m 90%'s Bitched out and went to bed after Found it (and have bookmarked it now): www.mcmillanrunning.com/what-is-base-training/I think it was "The Goals of Base Training" where the most interesting stuff starts.
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Post by mrrine on Feb 17, 2024 15:53:37 GMT
Super interesting site - can't find that exact article but there's so much good stuff on there. Will continue to read. I managed 5 of my 250m 90%'s Bitched out and went to bed after Found it (and have bookmarked it now): www.mcmillanrunning.com/what-is-base-training/I think it was "The Goals of Base Training" where the most interesting stuff starts. Outstanding read, thank you! Too many articles give you the 'try this one trick' nonsense, but that is comprehensive and covers most things apart from what sort of diet you need to survive that demand. I guess I mayaswell carry on with it considering I've accidentally been doing base training this week anyway (Apart from the fast circuits.) I'm guessing the reason most people don't do it is the pure amount of time it demands? I fully intend to see this one through.
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Post by Northy on Feb 19, 2024 12:13:22 GMT
A nice steady 21 miles yesterday morning, 8 weeks until Manchester.
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