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Post by luke45 on May 29, 2013 16:41:06 GMT
Do you honestly think calling for Mark Hughes's head before a ball has even been kicked is going to benefit Stoke City? What we need in this time of transition is unity and togetherness, not negativity and hostility. A lot of opposition fans and pundits are now viewing us as potential relegation fodder for next season, do we really want to give them the satisfaction of being right? It's up to us to prove them wrong like we've proven everyone wrong over the last five years. I didn't want Hughes any more than the next person, but every manager deserves a chance to prove himself as far as I'm concerned and he'll have my total backing from the start. I'd like to think we've got far more class than Chelsea's fans who tried to hound Rafa out before a ball had been kicked, do we really want to be compared to that vile, disgusting club? They are everything that is wrong with modern day Football, we aren't.
I honestly think if we are patient and allow Hughes the time to develop the team then we can be successful. We've got to be realistic though, transition can't happen over night, it's needs to be done in stages and it's going to take time. I'm not expecting instant success next season, we'll probably finish in the bottom half again, but I'm hopeful that over the next 2-3 years we can evolve as a team and push on to the next level. Whatever you think of Hughes, his record with teams of our size speaks for itself:
Blackburn Rovers -
05-06 - 6th place, league cup semi finals, qualified for UEFA Cup
06-07 - 10th place, FA Cup semi finals
07-08 - 7th place
Fulham -
10-11 - 8th place, qualified for Europa League
I don't believe even the biggest Hughes hater can't be encouraged by those achievements. He has proven over the years to be quite shrewd in the market and capable of working on a limited budget as well:
Benni McCarthy - 2 million - scored 17 Premier League goals on debut season
Christopher Samba - 450K
Roque Santa Cruz - 3.5 million - Later sold for 17.5 million to Man City
Mousa Dembele - 5 million - Later sold for 15 million to Tottenham
Vincent Kompany - 6 million
We all want the same thing, success for Stoke City, and if we are willing to give Hughes a chance he may just be the man to deliver it.
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Post by cartman123 on May 29, 2013 16:42:48 GMT
Like the same idiots who gave Pulis a chance?
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Post by cartman123 on May 29, 2013 16:43:30 GMT
Luke, why are you referring to his achievements years ago? He's done nothing since his B'burn days. It's been a gradual decline. He will fuck us up. Seriously.
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Post by Kjones9 on May 29, 2013 16:45:25 GMT
Like the same idiots who gave Pulis a chance? That's got to be the most retarded thing posted on here this week, well done. |
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Post by philm87 on May 29, 2013 16:48:03 GMT
I honestly think there will not be dissent at the ground.
People will calm down as the reality sinks in.
Pulis was taking us down a few weeks ago and a majority of people wanted him out yet you did not see too much in the way of an open mutiny at the Brit. People stuck together because they realised the club is bigger than the manager and will do so again.
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Post by wearestoke80 on May 29, 2013 16:50:08 GMT
I'm certain when it sinks in all our supporters will get behind him. I wasn't jumping from the roof tops when it first seemed nailed on but on reflection he will be our manager and I'm getting over the initial shock.
Interesting summer in store to see how he shapes our club.
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Post by Trouserdog on May 29, 2013 16:51:24 GMT
I didn't want him but my judgement is certainly not infallible. He may well succeed.
It's a blank slate that he starts with as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 29, 2013 16:51:31 GMT
Luke, why are you referring to his achievements years ago? He's done nothing since his B'burn days. It's been a gradual decline. He will fuck us up. Seriously. He finished 8th at Fulham - that's higher than we have ever finished in the Prem and that was only 2 years ago. That's hardly ancient history, is it? But don't let me spoil your natural optimism!  |
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Post by harrysburrow on May 29, 2013 16:51:33 GMT
Let's see how he goes about his business first?
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Post by Kjones9 on May 29, 2013 16:52:22 GMT
Even a good pre season will have the morons crawling from out of their rocks.
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Post by stokiesteve on May 29, 2013 16:53:17 GMT
Luke, why are you referring to his achievements years ago? He's done nothing since his B'burn days. It's been a gradual decline. He will fuck us up. Seriously. That's the spirit. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 16:54:08 GMT
Luke, why are you referring to his achievements years ago? He's done nothing since his B'burn days. It's been a gradual decline. He will fuck us up. Seriously. Are we pretending Fulham didn't happen? |
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Post by northantsash on May 29, 2013 16:54:56 GMT
not my first choice by any means, but if it is hughes he we have chosen as pulis' successor, then we may as well get behind the team and give the bloke a chance.
if he is going to try and play some entertaining football then he may well win a few of his doubters over. sign a proper left back and a winger and he might convert me into a hugerimmer!
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Post by cartman123 on May 29, 2013 16:55:37 GMT
Luke, why are you referring to his achievements years ago? He's done nothing since his B'burn days. It's been a gradual decline. He will fuck us up. Seriously. He finished 18th at Fulham - that's higher than we have ever finished in the Prem and that was only 2 years ago. That's hardly ancient history, is it? But don't let me spoil your excessive optimism! Oh come on, Fulham were already a ready made site when Hodgson left them. |
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Post by Pugsley on May 29, 2013 16:57:21 GMT
Luke, why are you referring to his achievements years ago? He's done nothing since his B'burn days. It's been a gradual decline. He will fuck us up. Seriously. What had Pulis done before he came to Stoke? What was he doing for 2 years while OUT OF WORK? Stop making a dick of yourself mate. |
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Post by Kjones9 on May 29, 2013 16:58:34 GMT
He finished 18th at Fulham - that's higher than we have ever finished in the Prem and that was only 2 years ago. That's hardly ancient history, is it? But don't let me spoil your excessive optimism! Oh come on, Fulham were already a ready made site when Hodgson left them. So is stoke  |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 16:59:30 GMT
He finished 18th at Fulham - that's higher than we have ever finished in the Prem and that was only 2 years ago. That's hardly ancient history, is it? But don't let me spoil your excessive optimism! Oh come on, Fulham were already a ready made site when Hodgson left them. How many managers go to a 'ready made side' and fuck it up spectacularly? He also signed Dembele, who Fulham sold for approximately three times what they paid for him. |
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Post by scfc76 on May 29, 2013 16:59:58 GMT
I wanted Clueless out at any cost, Mark Hughes may have not been my first choice of replacement but he will get my full backing from the off. Actually looking forward to the season starting again now unlike the last couple of years.
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Post by digger on May 29, 2013 16:59:59 GMT
Luke, why are you referring to his achievements years ago? He's done nothing since his B'burn days. It's been a gradual decline. He will fuck us up. Seriously. He finished 8th at Fulham - that's higher than we have ever finished in the Prem and that was only 2 years ago. That's hardly ancient history, is it? But don't let me spoil your natural optimism! and a massive 3 points in front of stoke in 13th  who played in a cup final. but the moment he is the stoke boss i back him |
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Post by cousindupree on May 29, 2013 17:00:55 GMT
The first home game and the players make a series of 4/5 forward passes and the crowd will be in raptures.If that doesn't work just put up a huge face of the capped one on the screen suggesting a return and Hughes will be immediately accepted. There is a sense of absolute hysteria from posters fretting about anti Hughes dissent. Geez there was over 70% of fans who wanted Pulis gone for weeks if not months and there was hardly a whiff of dissent.Anyone who thinks the new manager will get anything but respect don't really know the fans that well.
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Post by Kjones9 on May 29, 2013 17:04:34 GMT
He finished 8th at Fulham - that's higher than we have ever finished in the Prem and that was only 2 years ago. That's hardly ancient history, is it? But don't let me spoil your natural optimism! and a massive 3 points in front of stoke in 13th who played in a cup final. but the moment he is the stoke boss i back him Yes, but they still finished 8th didn't they? If pulis hadn't of classed one of the games that season as a "bonus game" we cold of finished higher, then you would've had a point. |
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Post by jwhpotter on May 29, 2013 17:04:41 GMT
I care about Stoke City more than most things in life but I honestly son't think I'll ever be able warm to Mark Hughes! Once a cunt, always a cunt!
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Post by robwahlmann on May 29, 2013 17:05:39 GMT
Hughes didn't do that badly at Man City either. He was gradually improving them until he was fired! The first season he kept QPR up without being too impressive, but still kept them up the first difficult season! The second season was just a disaster, but that said they didn't improve much with Harry either despite heavy spending!
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Post by FullerMagic on May 29, 2013 17:05:54 GMT
I didn't want him but my judgement is certainly not infallible. He may well succeed. It's a blank slate that he starts with as far as I'm concerned. Well said, Trousers. I'm looking forward to the thing unfolding now. At least it's something different. I do wish he'd smile a bit more though. |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on May 29, 2013 17:07:32 GMT
The first home game and the players make a series of 4/5 forward passes and the crowd will be in raptures.If that doesn't work just put up a huge face of the capped one on the screen suggesting a return and Hughes will be immediately accepted. There is a sense of absolute hysteria from posters fretting about anti Hughes dissent. Geez there was over 70% of fans who wanted Pulis gone for weeks if not months and there was hardly a whiff of dissent.Anyone who thinks the new manager will get anything but respect don't really know the fans that well. I think you may be in for a bit of a shock mate.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 17:09:27 GMT
The first home game and the players make a series of 4/5 forward passes and the crowd will be in raptures.If that doesn't work just put up a huge face of the capped one on the screen suggesting a return and Hughes will be immediately accepted. There is a sense of absolute hysteria from posters fretting about anti Hughes dissent. Geez there was over 70% of fans who wanted Pulis gone for weeks if not months and there was hardly a whiff of dissent.Anyone who thinks the new manager will get anything but respect don't really know the fans that well. I think you may be in for a bit of a shock mate. From the nostradamus who brought us such pearlers as 'what will the anti-TP lot do when they realise he's going nowhere?' |
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Post by onionman on May 29, 2013 17:10:28 GMT
Absolutely has to be a blank slate (and I thought he was as much of an idiot as anyone, with his refusal to shake hands all the time).
Anyway, there seems to be virtually no correlation between how everyone expects a manager to perform and how it actually turns out, so what we're thinking now doesn't really matter.
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Post by aidrolo on May 29, 2013 17:11:03 GMT
How about... If you know about football, you'll realise he's a good manager. It's embarrassing reading half of the tripe some of our fans come out with on here. You could sit for hours on end pissing yourself at the comments people make on here.
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Post by ColonelMustard on May 29, 2013 17:15:50 GMT
I didn't want Pulis sacked and I don't want Hughes but it's hardly going to stop me wanting us to win and do well is it?
You have to be a special type of scrote to harbour a grudge against a manager through thick and thin and posting on here for unanimous support certainly isn't going to change a scrote like that's mind.
Wasting your time.
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Post by adamsson on May 29, 2013 17:18:15 GMT
He will get a chance but most fans would not have put him on their list of potential managers so if he starts badly or we get close to the bottom three he will have no reservoir of good will. Hopefully a few decent signings and good performances may be even an away win  will get the fans on his side but he will have to work at and get the results |
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who played in a cup final. but the moment he is the stoke boss i back him
will get the fans on his side but he will have to work at and get the results 
