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Post by ruts66 on May 26, 2013 18:28:05 GMT
you cunts that help to drive tp out are draggin us all down by the choice of the so call candidates hope you are proud of yurselves Cunts? Nice... Let's not forget TP's mantra - "I'm only answerable to the Chairman". Well, the Chairman has acted accordingly...
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Post by goodrington on May 26, 2013 18:28:26 GMT
why would we have been heading down
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Post by werrington on May 26, 2013 18:28:37 GMT
How did the fans drive him out Al ? No demonstrations as far as I am aware
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Post by LDE76 on May 26, 2013 18:30:05 GMT
you cunts that help to drive tp out are draggin us all down by the choice of the so call candidates hope you are proud of yurselves
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Post by goodrington on May 26, 2013 18:31:24 GMT
people continual criticising gettin carried away thinkin we are better than what we are moan moan moan moan moan
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Post by philm87 on May 26, 2013 18:31:55 GMT
I would probably agree with that. That is why I am so surprised that so many on here are convinced that this or that particular manager is going to be a disaster. We all have to wait and see. Seems to me that the only people who see a disaster looming are the staunch Pulis followers. In my opinion,if we had kept Pulis in charge we were heading down,so I don't see any reasons why we should have kept Pulis in charge regardless of how good some people might not think the candidates to take over are. There were loads of reasons,all valid,as to why we should get rid of Pulis,and if we get his replacement right this club can go and move in the right direction again. I was a staunch support of Pulis myself, until I realized he was going to take us down. I still think he is a legend but it is definitely time for a change. Of course things could go wrong, but as you say I don't think it would have worked next season if TP has stayed. In my opinion we just need to trust Coates. He has got the last three big decisions right. He made the right decision appointing Pulis. He made the right decision in backing him after the Villa game. He made the right decision to let him go. Now he has an even bigger decision to make and all we can do is hope he gets it right. It is a gamble we have to take.
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Post by digger on May 26, 2013 18:33:31 GMT
you cunts that help to drive tp out are draggin us all down by the choice of the so call candidates hope you are proud of yurselves Who drove Pulis out ? I am unaware of this if we get relegated you will be aware the blame will be yours
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Post by goodrington on May 26, 2013 18:34:14 GMT
good post
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Post by werrington on May 26, 2013 18:36:20 GMT
people continual criticising gettin carried away thinkin we are better than what we are moan moan moan moan moan We were shit, boring and shamelessly negative I think those above saw that for themselves If the fans were listened too he would of gone a long time ago and indeed not re appointed This decision has nothing to do with the supporters
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Post by lordb on May 26, 2013 18:37:25 GMT
I can't beleive anyone thinks Mark Hughes is a better manager than TP I really can't.
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Post by goodrington on May 26, 2013 18:40:54 GMT
if in 12 months time we are still in prem club being applauded for its new style of football i will come on here an admit to being wrong but if we go down and dont say pulis would have taken us there how many pulis knockers will admit to being wrong
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Post by philm87 on May 26, 2013 18:42:34 GMT
why would we have been heading down We had spent about £30 million + since Cup Final and gone backwards. In fairness, those people that wanted him out before mostly kept quiet during our tough spell. They didn't protest or anything like that because they wanted the club to stay in the Prem. Coates and/or the family have made this decision in any case. Season ticket sales and the negative atmosphere may have contributed somewhat but Coates wasn't swayed by the fans views when he brought Pulis back before so I don't think it will have been a major factor here.
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Post by generationex on May 26, 2013 18:43:33 GMT
Time will resolve this one - either we're on the way up now or the way down. Some people will be proved wrong, but I'll bet my house they won't admit it.
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Post by goodrington on May 26, 2013 18:44:12 GMT
as in every walk of life the minority are normally the loud ones as in this case the pulis knockers are the loud ones
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 18:46:57 GMT
if in 12 months time we are still in prem club being applauded for its new style of football i will come on here an admit to being wrong but if we go down and dont say pulis would have taken us there how many pulis knockers will admit to being wrong We won't need to. Everyone's comments are here in black and white - or you could make a list. Discussing people admitting they're wrong at this stage seems a fairly pointless exercise at the moment - let's be honest!
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 18:48:05 GMT
as in every walk of life the minority are normally the loud ones... And there's you calling people "cunts."
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 18:49:00 GMT
Seems to me that the only people who see a disaster looming are the staunch Pulis followers. In my opinion,if we had kept Pulis in charge we were heading down,so I don't see any reasons why we should have kept Pulis in charge regardless of how good some people might not think the candidates to take over are. There were loads of reasons,all valid,as to why we should get rid of Pulis,and if we get his replacement right this club can go and move in the right direction again. I was a staunch support of Pulis myself, until I realized he was going to take us down. I still think he is a legend but it is definitely time for a change. Of course things could go wrong, but as you say I don't think it would have worked next season if TP has stayed. In my opinion we just need to trust Coates. He has got the last three big decisions right. He made the right decision appointing Pulis. He made the right decision in backing him after the Villa game. He made the right decision to let him go. Now he has an even bigger decision to make and all we can do is hope he gets it right. It is a gamble we have to take. Hard to disagree with any of that I was in the "get rid" camp at the end of the previous season and still believe that's when we should have done it. As its worked out we managed to stay up and he just had to go this time around.
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Post by LDE76 on May 26, 2013 18:50:59 GMT
For fuck's sake, why are people so determined to extract their pound of flesh? If we get relegated it won't be because we got rid of Pulis, it'll be because the new manager failed. You can never prove that Pulis would have kept us up next year because he's gone, so the people who thought it was time for him to go can never actually be proved wrong. The new manager may keep us up, so the only ones who could be proved wrong are the people claiming that sacking Pulis will guarantee relegation.
Christ.
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Post by goodrington on May 26, 2013 18:51:51 GMT
will all depend on new man being better than old one
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 18:53:17 GMT
It's pretty clear the Pulis supporters are only giving the new guy 1 season to be successful and in that time he will have to recruit a complete backroom staff,rebuild the squad,change the style of football,integrate the academy and not get relegated. No pressure there then
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 18:53:39 GMT
will all depend on new man being better than old one It'll all be fine then. Chill!
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Post by goodrington on May 26, 2013 18:56:09 GMT
anti pulis say does not matter if we go down so long as we play better wat a load of shit
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Post by Godo on May 26, 2013 18:57:16 GMT
Oh so you KNOW who the managerial candidates are do you?
and who has said "does not matter if we go down"??? ( and it's spelt "what" not "wat" by the way.)
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on May 26, 2013 19:09:40 GMT
The sooner some of our more limited fans realize that TP was forced out by the board wanting the club to go in a new direction and not a few thousand Stoke fans rightfully moaning about his faults on a message board, the fucking better.
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Post by digger on May 26, 2013 19:13:57 GMT
anti pulis say does not matter if we go down so long as we play better wat a load of shit and not a option
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 19:14:35 GMT
It was the right time for TP to go and for us to start fresh. We needed rejuvinating. i fail to believe that there is a suitable candidate somewhere in Europe. Before anybody asks who...well that's not my job to find them If we end up appointing MON or Hughes then it'd fail to really show a change in direction and that'd be a failure of the board - not a reflection on whether it was right or wrong to get rid of TP
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Post by overthehills on May 26, 2013 19:18:28 GMT
The last 6 months have been terrible to watch, the sense of doom and gloom when you walk into the stadium knowing your going to witness players arguing on the pitch, lack of interest, slow closing players down, no attacking options apart from HOOF ball, the Shawcross long diagonal to Crouch/KWJ with no end result and slim chance of us scoring a winning goal. The past 6 months the team has been falling apart and there was no sign of Pulis able to change it. With the financial fair play starting next season and the club wanting to develop young players and use Cartright and his connections to full advantage, I think Pulis leaving was the right decision for all parties. So, if Pulis stayed and our last 6 months form continued into next season, where would we be end of next season? RELEGATION. Last 5 years we come 3rd in biggest net spenders in the Prem, what do we have to show for it? a few decent players? no left back, no central defence cover, unhappy players, low scoring strikers. Attachment DeletedNow we need the right manager who can work with Cartright and his connections and who can work with young players and develop them to have any chance of reaching the Coates's family aim of making the club self efficient. These are exciting times for our club. Jump aboard!
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Post by wearestoke80 on May 26, 2013 20:25:42 GMT
It's not a shock to anyone though, is it? Coatesy wasn't on a quiz show where the alternatives were hiding behind a curtain, while he had 30 seconds to decide whether to axe or not to axe. The names under consideration now are the ones we've all been discussing on here for the last 5 months. They've made the call in full knowledge about who is a viable contender. Nothing has changed since Tuesday. The change of direction for the club is that Scholes and Cartwright will have control of the club as Peter is taking a step back and John Coates will be involved more but these two clowns will be making the decisions. By the way only my opinion . That's more worrying than who the next manager will be.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 20:27:48 GMT
Pulis stay? Not for me.
Pulis come back? Never!
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Post by stokiejoe on May 26, 2013 20:32:21 GMT
It's not a shock to anyone though, is it? Coatesy wasn't on a quiz show where the alternatives were hiding behind a curtain, while he had 30 seconds to decide whether to axe or not to axe. The names under consideration now are the ones we've all been discussing on here for the last 5 months. They've made the call in full knowledge about who is a viable contender. Nothing has changed since Tuesday. The change of direction for the club is that Scholes and Cartwright will have control of the club as Peter is taking a step back and John Coates will be involved more but these two clowns will be making the decisions. By the way only my opinion . That's more worrying than who the next manager will be. So explain to me how two employees will be making decisions not approved of by the owner. Don't think John is as "understanding" as his father and the two would very quickly change their roles to ex-employees.
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