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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 18, 2013 16:47:58 GMT
Oh, and Walters mrs should keep her mouth shut. What has this even got to do with her? Does she know her husband is punching well above his weight? Hopefully they'll both be gone for next season. To be honest, there's a shit load of them that I wouldn't care two shits about them never playing for Stoke again. (Regardless of this stupid incident.)
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Post by Godo on May 18, 2013 16:48:59 GMT
What does it all mean? Why a pigs head? If it didn't matter why put his car window through? Is there ongoing bad blood between some of the players? If (?) Jones is a rastafarian then it does seem like a very personal insult.
In the real world someone would get sacked but this is the fantasy world of the moronic qunts who play in the Premiership. The reputation of the club does matter to me and I would have hoped that we would never end up looking like the bunch of twats that they have at Chelsea but clearly for some on here behaving like a twat is perfectly acceptable if you are paid enough. No wonder we've got a bunch of clueless litte rich boys fucking up the country in Downing Street!
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Post by cmc89 on May 18, 2013 16:50:57 GMT
Oh, and Walters mrs should keep her mouth shut. What has this even got to do with her? Does she know her husband is punching well above his weight? Hopefully they'll both be gone for next season. Am I the only one who thinks walters serves a purpose in the club? I get that he shouldn't be starting every game and definitely shouldn't be hung out to dry on the wing but he can still do a job for us and is a good attitude to have at the club
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Post by Godo on May 18, 2013 16:52:51 GMT
Oh, and Walters mrs should keep her mouth shut. What has this even got to do with her? Does she know her husband is punching well above his weight? Hopefully they'll both be gone for next season. Am I the only one who thinks walters serves a purpose in the club? I get that he shouldn't be starting every game and definitely shouldn't be hung out to dry on the wing but he can still do a job for us and is a good attitude to have at the club Not the "only one" but surely there can't be too many left who think running around a lot is good enough can there?
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Post by cmc89 on May 18, 2013 17:09:07 GMT
Not the "only one" but surely there can't be too many left who think running around a lot is good enough can there? I don't reckon anyone thinks that to be honest mate but surely people can't think he's the worst player on our team? Plenty more are fucking shit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2013 17:20:57 GMT
Where are people getting that he's a Christian from? Are we basing that on what some journalist has said with no quotes whatsoever? This is the problem with many people. They read things and believe what they are reading without ever questioning. Talk about being stupid. FYI, he's a rastafarian, and therefore does not eat pork. I'm assuming Whelan must have known this? Couldn't have been a coincidence. Why would Whelan have known? And why can't it be a coincidence? Is everything done with a malicious intent nowadays? Load of bollocks!
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Post by stantheman on May 18, 2013 17:22:29 GMT
In all seriousness, isn't Matthew Etherington from a family of butchers? I'm sure I've seen photos on here of butchers vans with the family name on it. Get ready for the rest of the carcass to appear soon! Now you mention it, yes. Etherington's family are butchers from Cornwall. Whelan puts a pigs head into the locker of a butcher's son, who mistakenly puts it into KJ's. A bit of a stretch, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the spin the club puts on the story, given what we've heard so far. A great advertisement for the family business!"
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 17:24:04 GMT
Now you mention it, yes. Etherington's family are butchers from Cornwall. Whelan puts a pigs head into the locker of a butcher's son, who mistakenly puts it into KJ's. A bit of a stretch, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the spin the club puts on the story, given what we've heard so far. A great advertisement for the family business!" Yea, but what odds would you haven given for that happening?
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Post by ohbottom on May 18, 2013 17:34:11 GMT
Where are people getting that he's a Christian from? Are we basing that on what some journalist has said with no quotes whatsoever? This is the problem with many people. They read things and believe what they are reading without ever questioning. Talk about being stupid. FYI, he's a rastafarian, and therefore does not eat pork. I'm assuming Whelan must have known this? Couldn't have been a coincidence. Why would Whelan have known? And why can't it be a coincidence? Is everything done with a malicious intent nowadays? Load of bollocks! Why would Whelan have known? Because for 3 years they've been part of a close-knit group, they're not passing acquaintances! They'll have sat down at the same table in restaurants, stayed in the same hotel, generally been in pretty close contact for three years! They might not know what toothpaste or water-based lubricant each other uses, but it's inconceivable that something fundamental like this won't be common knowledge within the squad. (That is assuming he really is a devout rastafarian and therefore won't touch meat - we only have hearsay for this....)
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Post by harryburrows on May 18, 2013 17:34:32 GMT
Now you mention it, yes. Etherington's family are butchers from Cornwall. Whelan puts a pigs head into the locker of a butcher's son, who mistakenly puts it into KJ's. A bit of a stretch, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the spin the club puts on the story, given what we've heard so far. A great advertisement for the family business!" Would the powers that be at bet 365 our sponsors take a dim view of this ? It's showing the club in a poor light in certain middle and Far East countries . Does it have any commercial implications for them ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2013 17:41:28 GMT
Why would Whelan have known? And why can't it be a coincidence? Is everything done with a malicious intent nowadays? Load of bollocks! Why would Whelan have known? Because for 3 years they've been part of a close-knit group, they're not passing acquaintances! They'll have sat down at the same table in restaurants, stayed in the same hotel, generally been in pretty close contact for three years! They might not know what toothpaste or water-based lubricant each other uses, but it's inconceivable that something fundamental like this won't be common knowledge within the squad. (That is assuming he really is a devout rastafarian and therefore won't touch meat - we only have hearsay for this....) And I still think as I've explained previously on this thread I think You can work with someone in a group of 20 odd players, 20 odd support staff plus all the U-21's and whoever and still not know what religion they are. I wouldn't give a shit in the respects of asking and KJ seems like someone I would avoid talking to if I could manage, which I could. I just don't think it's that inconceivable not to know he's a Rastafarian. You won't talk deeply (and to me religion is a deep subject and something I wouldn't want to talk about) with someone You weren't arsed about. And in the setting I think that could easily happen, as it can in all work places. And there's knowing what Rastafarianism entails. I know ignorance is a poor excuse but I had no idea about it before this episode, it's been bloody enlightening!
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Post by Beardy200 on May 18, 2013 17:41:37 GMT
Where are people getting that he's a Christian from? Are we basing that on what some journalist has said with no quotes whatsoever? This is the problem with many people. They read things and believe what they are reading without ever questioning. Talk about being stupid. FYI, he's a rastafarian, and therefore does not eat pork. I'm assuming Whelan must have known this? Couldn't have been a coincidence. What has eating pork got to do with it? Nobody forced him to eat anything. All he was forced to do was look at it and possibly by mistake. I'm sketchy on religions (mainly as i believe they're a crock of shit for slightly simple people) but are Rastafarians forbidden to even look at pigs?
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Post by harryburrows on May 18, 2013 17:44:17 GMT
Where are people getting that he's a Christian from? Are we basing that on what some journalist has said with no quotes whatsoever? This is the problem with many people. They read things and believe what they are reading without ever questioning. Talk about being stupid. FYI, he's a rastafarian, and therefore does not eat pork. I'm assuming Whelan must have known this? Couldn't have been a coincidence. What has eating pork got to do with it? Nobody forced him to eat anything All he was forced to do was look at it. I'm sketchy on religions (mainly as i believe they're a crock of shit for slightly simple people) but are Rastafarians forbidden to even look at pigs? I'm of the same feeling as you but it would be deeply offensive to people of Muslim faith or similar .
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2013 17:47:21 GMT
Kenwyne j Jones ?- Secondly i've apologised to glen whelan for the destruction of his property, for all the ppl that think I did micheal Owen's car I didn't Nice one KJ, now lets all move on!
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 18, 2013 17:48:52 GMT
Where are people getting that he's a Christian from? Are we basing that on what some journalist has said with no quotes whatsoever? This is the problem with many people. They read things and believe what they are reading without ever questioning. Talk about being stupid. FYI, he's a rastafarian, and therefore does not eat pork. I'm assuming Whelan must have known this? Couldn't have been a coincidence. What has eating pork got to do with it? Nobody forced him to eat anything. All he was forced to do was look at it and possibly by mistake. I'm sketchy on religions (mainly as i believe they're a crock of shit for slightly simple people) but are Rastafarians forbidden to even look at pigs? They're very much forbidden from touching pork mate, they believe that to touch the carcass is to touch death itself. Hasn't it been suggested that the head was hidden amongst Kenwyne's clothes?
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on May 18, 2013 17:50:46 GMT
Kenwyne j Jones ?@kj9nes 1h First off for all the people saying thIs had anything to with racism I'm not endorsing that.
Secondly i've apologised to glen whelan for the destruction of his property, for all the ppl that think I did micheal Owen's car I didn't - I just posted the pics of it , I was never involved in any of the pranks in the dressing room
So for all the people that think that the pigs head wrapped in my clothes was banter great so is the broken window
As far as tension in the squad there's nun myself and whelan had our thrash out and he said it wasnt him so I apologised n im paying for it
As for the person who did it no one has come fwd n apologised to me so I guess the joke was gd then
But as I said if you have the belly to take banter to that level be willing to accept the reaction. Thats final no more comments
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Post by ohbottom on May 18, 2013 17:58:06 GMT
Why would Whelan have known? Because for 3 years they've been part of a close-knit group, they're not passing acquaintances! They'll have sat down at the same table in restaurants, stayed in the same hotel, generally been in pretty close contact for three years! They might not know what toothpaste or water-based lubricant each other uses, but it's inconceivable that something fundamental like this won't be common knowledge within the squad. (That is assuming he really is a devout rastafarian and therefore won't touch meat - we only have hearsay for this....) And I still think as I've explained previously on this thread I think You can work with someone in a group of 20 odd players, 20 odd support staff plus all the U-21's and whoever and still not know what religion they are. I wouldn't give a shit in the respects of asking and KJ seems like someone I would avoid talking to if I could manage, which I could. I just don't think it's that inconceivable not to know he's a Rastafarian. You won't talk deeply (and to me religion is a deep subject and something I wouldn't want to talk about) with someone You weren't arsed about. And in the setting I think that could easily happen, as it can in all work places. And there's knowing what Rastafarianism entails. I know ignorance is a poor excuse but I had no idea about it before this episode, it's been bloody enlightening! But it's not like working in a call centre or a desk job or something where you'll go into the office and you'll hardly know most of the other guys (& gals) in there. The first team squad of necessity will be a tight-knit group, and as they're professional sportsmen diet is pretty important to them. You don't think that at some point over 3 years of eating in the canteen after training together, going on away trips etc, someone won't have said "hey, how come KJ never eats meat"? Are professional footballers really so disinterested in their team-mates? I've had 6 month contracts working in offices, and just in the course of general chit-chat I'll know that such-and-such is a quaker and so-and-so is a jehova's witness. I don't particularly care, or even interested, it's just stuff you know.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 18:00:34 GMT
Apology accepted flower. I was banned. I didn't delete. I didn't "threaten to never return" either. Don't let the facts get in the way of anything though. Good effort kid. Keep up the fine work. WD So you weren't on twitter bitching like the little woman you are? Apologies again! Just don't let it happen again.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2013 18:05:00 GMT
And I still think as I've explained previously on this thread I think You can work with someone in a group of 20 odd players, 20 odd support staff plus all the U-21's and whoever and still not know what religion they are. I wouldn't give a shit in the respects of asking and KJ seems like someone I would avoid talking to if I could manage, which I could. I just don't think it's that inconceivable not to know he's a Rastafarian. You won't talk deeply (and to me religion is a deep subject and something I wouldn't want to talk about) with someone You weren't arsed about. And in the setting I think that could easily happen, as it can in all work places. And there's knowing what Rastafarianism entails. I know ignorance is a poor excuse but I had no idea about it before this episode, it's been bloody enlightening! But it's not like working in a call centre or a desk job or something where you'll go into the office and you'll hardly know most of the other guys (& gals) in there. The first team squad of necessity will be a tight-knit group, and as they're professional sportsmen diet is pretty important to them. You don't think that at some point over 3 years of eating in the canteen after training together, going on away trips etc, someone won't have said "hey, how come KJ never eats meat"? Are professional footballers really so disinterested in their team-mates? I've had 6 month contracts working in offices, and just in the course of general chit-chat I'll know that such-and-such is a quaker and so-and-so is a jehova's witness. I don't particularly care, or even interested, it's just stuff you know. He might eat meat, we dunna know. But I wouldn't put it past them, if it's someone I wasn't exactly pally with I wouldn't give a fuck about them tbh. And it's not just professional footballers, if there's someone You don't have any passing interest in, then You won't give a shit. Again maybe it's just me being the way I am but I could happily take no interest in someone for 3 years if I wanted to in any environment. But that's just the way I am. And I've done the same but religion has never come up, from the last one I gathered someone was a conspiracy nut job, from that moment on I barely talked to him again. I'm a cunt like that!
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Post by Beardy200 on May 18, 2013 18:09:04 GMT
What has eating pork got to do with it? Nobody forced him to eat anything. All he was forced to do was look at it and possibly by mistake. I'm sketchy on religions (mainly as i believe they're a crock of shit for slightly simple people) but are Rastafarians forbidden to even look at pigs? They're very much forbidden from touching pork mate, they believe that to touch the carcass is to touch death itself. Hasn't it been suggested that the head was hidden amongst Kenwyne's clothes? Like i said, a crock of shit for slightly simple people
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Post by ParaPsych on May 18, 2013 18:20:59 GMT
If I was in charge I'd have all the players whose wives post shit on twitter kicked in the nuts. I'd make the culprit eat the pigs head, raw. And I'd fuck Brek Shea off back to America.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 18:22:15 GMT
There's bloody loads of them i've had enough of even before this incident. And doesn't take a genius to work out there's all sorts of problems going on even if the bloody pigs head was meant to be just a prank. Its a damm stupid prank and a damm stupid reaction.
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Post by armitagestokie on May 18, 2013 18:26:38 GMT
I blame Frank Butcher
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Post by sportsman on May 18, 2013 18:27:37 GMT
Shit. I was hoping whelan did it. Oh well back in the squad then
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Post by ohbottom on May 18, 2013 18:30:01 GMT
But it's not like working in a call centre or a desk job or something where you'll go into the office and you'll hardly know most of the other guys (& gals) in there. The first team squad of necessity will be a tight-knit group, and as they're professional sportsmen diet is pretty important to them. You don't think that at some point over 3 years of eating in the canteen after training together, going on away trips etc, someone won't have said "hey, how come KJ never eats meat"? Are professional footballers really so disinterested in their team-mates? I've had 6 month contracts working in offices, and just in the course of general chit-chat I'll know that such-and-such is a quaker and so-and-so is a jehova's witness. I don't particularly care, or even interested, it's just stuff you know. He might eat meat, we dunna know. But I wouldn't put it past them, if it's someone I wasn't exactly pally with I wouldn't give a fuck about them tbh. And it's not just professional footballers, if there's someone You don't have any passing interest in, then You won't give a shit. Again maybe it's just me being the way I am but I could happily take no interest in someone for 3 years if I wanted to in any environment. But that's just the way I am. And I've done the same but religion has never come up, from the last one I gathered someone was a conspiracy nut job, from that moment on I barely talked to him again. I'm a cunt like that! Bayern you're missing a trick - I love talking to conspiracy theory believers, they are such utter fruitcakes!
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Post by iglugluk on May 18, 2013 18:33:48 GMT
one thing I do know..............Whelan needs replacing because he's not good enough at football to be in a Premiership starting 11.
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Post by kitkatkev on May 18, 2013 18:34:37 GMT
Words fail me it was banter.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 18, 2013 18:35:10 GMT
They're very much forbidden from touching pork mate, they believe that to touch the carcass is to touch death itself. Hasn't it been suggested that the head was hidden amongst Kenwyne's clothes? Like i said, a crock of shit for slightly simple people I was just answering your question mate. I think religion is a crock of shit too but I still try to be mindful not to insult people because they have made the decision to follow one.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2013 18:36:10 GMT
He might eat meat, we dunna know. But I wouldn't put it past them, if it's someone I wasn't exactly pally with I wouldn't give a fuck about them tbh. And it's not just professional footballers, if there's someone You don't have any passing interest in, then You won't give a shit. Again maybe it's just me being the way I am but I could happily take no interest in someone for 3 years if I wanted to in any environment. But that's just the way I am. And I've done the same but religion has never come up, from the last one I gathered someone was a conspiracy nut job, from that moment on I barely talked to him again. I'm a cunt like that! Bayern you're missing a trick - I love talking to conspiracy theory believers, they are such utter fruitcakes! I did for one break but the nonsense coming from his gob and the time of day (it was a night shift) just meant that I couldn't be arsed. I did have great success with some Jehovah's Witnesses at the front door though, I preached to them about Stoke and they were the ones to make the excuses to leave. I was disappointed, I was about to tell them about the merits of Tony Pulis. They then came back about two months ago, gave us the leaflet and scarpered immediately!
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 18:40:44 GMT
Words fail me it was banter. I'm sure it was kit kat mate but its very strange banter. And an even stranger reaction by Kenwyne. Be interesting to see how we perform tomorrow. One things for sure I cant wait to see the back of this season. Just had enough of it and looking forward to some drastic changes in the summer.
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