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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 6, 2013 23:04:03 GMT
JSU, serious -yes, bayern a disgrace no. They are not saying they will not given anything less than 100% for SCFC, however, in order for unity we need manager, players and fans together, unfortunately the strength of feeling against TP and lack of humility from TP to address the numerous issues leads to the inevitable conclusion that we will only unite behind a new leader. Nope,all we need is the fans to be together for the sake of SCFC,fuck everything else. We are for crying out loud. Today was asking for a riot but there wasn't one. They're a lucky lot.
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Post by philm87 on Apr 6, 2013 23:05:06 GMT
I didnt see one challenge with any commitment from anybody, they've lost faith in the manager or there is unrest in the dressing room,and there are no leaders on the field. I despaired at the dross on show after Villa's forst goal. The wasnt one player on the field who was talking to another geeing them up or more appropriately kicking one or two or five up the arse and telling them in no uncertain terms they wernt performing. Leadership generally in this club at the moment is very sadly lacking from the chairman downwards. Weeks ago the chairman should have taken action he's also failed to wake up and smell the coffee and now its too late. Well when people saying we might as well stick with TP then the reply is usually 'But what do we have to lose letting him go?' I personally want him out now but I'll put this question to you. Assuming he isn't sacked then surely the ONLY thing you and I can do is get behind all the players 100% for the remaining home games... What do we have to lose doing this?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 6, 2013 23:06:57 GMT
Nope,all we need is the fans to be together for the sake of SCFC,fuck everything else. We are for crying out loud. Today was asking for a riot but there wasn't one. They're a lucky lot. You prove my point.
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Post by Milkie on Apr 6, 2013 23:09:58 GMT
JSU, serious -yes, bayern a disgrace no. They are not saying they will not given anything less than 100% for SCFC, however, in order for unity we need manager, players and fans together, unfortunately the strength of feeling against TP and lack of humility from TP to address the numerous issues leads to the inevitable conclusion that we will only unite behind a new leader. Nope,all we need is the fans to be together for the sake of SCFC,fuck everything else. It isn't that simple though is it, we are all united in supporting SCFC ,we demonstrate that by turning up from the 4 corners of the country on match day, however , we are so divided over TP and the football so wretched our united front does not pass first challenge, that doesn't make that person less of a stoke fan they just have less of a tolerance to accept what is on offer. To be united we need something to unite behind, that's either complete humility from TP and an admission he as made mistakes or a new leader.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 6, 2013 23:11:05 GMT
We are for crying out loud. Today was asking for a riot but there wasn't one. They're a lucky lot. You prove my point. In what way? For being honest? The team was supported today irrespective of them not deserving it. You can't ask for anything more from the fans at the minute imo. You're either completely missing my point or I don't know what.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 6, 2013 23:13:40 GMT
Nope,all we need is the fans to be together for the sake of SCFC,fuck everything else. It isn't that simple though is it, we are all united in supporting SCFC ,we demonstrate that by turning up from the 4 corners of the country on match day, however , we are so divided over TP and the football so wretched our united front does not pass first challenge, that doesn't make that person less of a stoke fan they just have less of a tolerance to accept what is on offer. To be united we need something to unite behind, that's either complete humility from TP and an admission he as made mistakes or a new leader. Not suggesting anyone is more or less of a Stoke fan.Just don't understand all the recent hatred towards the manager.He's not changed and never will,his football has always been shite to watch and always will be.Have people only just realised this?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Apr 6, 2013 23:13:58 GMT
Anyone who is criticizing the fans is a bellend of the highest order, the amount of shit we're in and the problems we have and people are having a pop at the fans? Jesus fucking wept.
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Post by philm87 on Apr 6, 2013 23:13:58 GMT
Nope,all we need is the fans to be together for the sake of SCFC,fuck everything else. It isn't that simple though is it, we are all united in supporting SCFC ,we demonstrate that by turning up from the 4 corners of the country on match day, however , we are so divided over TP and the football so wretched our united front does not pass first challenge, that doesn't make that person less of a stoke fan they just have less of a tolerance to accept what is on offer. To be united we need something to unite behind, that's either complete humility from TP and an admission he as made mistakes or a new leader. We really do need to forget about TP though, difficult though it may be. This is about the club not the manager. Hope he goes in the next 24 hours but I bet you he won't. Nothing we can do to change that. Time to put away our agendas and silly bitchiness, stop being herberts, and lets go mental next week against Manure. It's all we have left.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 23:15:34 GMT
In what way? For being honest? The team was supported today irrespective of them not deserving it. You can't ask for anything more from the fans at the minute imo. You're either completely missing my point or I don't know what. Bayern, I dont know what this guy is on about. Years gone by,ive seen Stokies turn against Mills, Ball, Kamara and Coates. WE ARE STICKING WITH THE TEAM!
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 6, 2013 23:16:15 GMT
In what way? For being honest? The team was supported today irrespective of them not deserving it. You can't ask for anything more from the fans at the minute imo. You're either completely missing my point or I don't know what. It seems that you think that the situation deserves a bad atmosphere and because it's neither good nor bad,that,that constitutes us being supportive.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 6, 2013 23:17:47 GMT
Anyone who is criticizing the fans is a bellend of the highest order, the amount of shit we're in and the problems we have and people are having a pop at the fans? Jesus fucking wept. You're not criticizing a fan there are you,bellend.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 6, 2013 23:18:47 GMT
In what way? For being honest? The team was supported today irrespective of them not deserving it. You can't ask for anything more from the fans at the minute imo. You're either completely missing my point or I don't know what. It seems that you think that the situation deserves a bad atmosphere and because it's neither good nor bad,that,that constitutes us being supportive. You've missed my point. I am saying it deserves a bad atmosphere but I think the atmosphere was good, my opinion, not Yours I accept that. So I think we are supporting the team.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Apr 6, 2013 23:19:23 GMT
Anyone who is criticizing the fans is a bellend of the highest order, the amount of shit we're in and the problems we have and people are having a pop at the fans? Jesus fucking wept. You're not criticizing a fan there are you,bellend. No, I aren't? I'm criticizing people who are having a pop at the fans, because in my eyes they aren't Stoke supporters.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 6, 2013 23:20:01 GMT
In what way? For being honest? The team was supported today irrespective of them not deserving it. You can't ask for anything more from the fans at the minute imo. You're either completely missing my point or I don't know what. Bayern, I dont know what this guy is on about. Years gone by,ive seen Stokies turn against Mills, Ball, Kamara and Coates. WE ARE STICKING WITH THE TEAM! Nor me, I don't see what more the fans can do. And as You say when You look back we've been far worse. This whole blame the fans bollocks is starting to grate.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 6, 2013 23:23:16 GMT
I'm not blaming the fans. This unity idea of mine is really working
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 23:24:27 GMT
Bayern, I dont know what this guy is on about. Years gone by,ive seen Stokies turn against Mills, Ball, Kamara and Coates. WE ARE STICKING WITH THE TEAM! Nor me, I don't see what more the fans can do. And as You say when You look back we've been far worse. This whole blame the fans bollocks is starting to grate. The answer lies with Pulis and the players now. Only they can save us... It is quite simply a fucking disgrace we are in this position. Mismanagement of the highest order if we go down. Shocking.
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Post by philm87 on Apr 6, 2013 23:25:06 GMT
I don't think anyone is blaming the fans. We need to stop being quite so precious about this.
It's more a case of some people like the OP saying we need a greater show of unity and more perserverance if we are to get through these next games with TP still in charge.
It is the manager's fault we are where we are but if there is anything we can do to help the players on the pitch then we should absolutely fucking do eet.
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 6, 2013 23:25:12 GMT
We were showed up big time today by the villa support I thought they were brilliant
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 6, 2013 23:27:24 GMT
I don't think anyone is blaming the fans. We need to stop being quite so precious about this. It's more a case of some people like the OP saying we need a greater show of unity and more perserverance if we are to get through these next games with TP still in charge. It is the manager's fault we are where we are but if there is anything we can do to help the players on the pitch then we should absolutely fucking do eet. No preciousness about it, I just can't see what more the fans can do. We tried today and the team repaid us with one of the worst displays for years. It's on the team and the management now, the fans are there, it's time for them to step up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 23:27:50 GMT
We were showed up big time today by the villa support I thought they were brilliant Because they were by far the better football team throughout. Simple. We can't pass a ball.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 6, 2013 23:30:35 GMT
We were showed up big time today by the villa support I thought they were brilliant Because they were by far the better football team throughout. Simple. We can't pass a ball.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 23:36:47 GMT
Because they were by far the better football team throughout. Simple. We can't pass a ball. Yes I get your point, we need to stick with the lads, unity and all that. And I believe our fans were well up for it today, even after we went behind. However it soon became apparent these young Villa lads played us off the park while we lumped it over and over again. Groundhog day. Our expensively assemble side could not string a pass together if we are honest. This isn't a new occurrence and has crept up on us. Championship football beckons.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 23:37:17 GMT
Sorry hasn't crept upon us.
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Post by philm87 on Apr 6, 2013 23:42:43 GMT
Yes ultimately it is time for them (the team) to step up. But I think they might need a bit more help.
As an example of the kind of thing I'm talking about.
A bloke in front of me completely lost the plot on about 75 minutes... the ball had gone out for a throw and he stood up and started shouting all sorts of abuse at the players. Obviously frustration had got the better of him. 5 minutes later we scored and him and everyone else are up and down going mental.
Some bloke a couple of rows in front of me - who had been quiet as a mouse all game - turns round to face the fans and says 'Come on let's go fucking mental'. He went mental for about 2 minutes until Lowton scored that goal out of nothing. I blinked and he was gone. Along with about 5,000 others.
Call that what you want. Personally I would not call that good support.
And please don't get upset about this because I am not suggesting anyone other than Tony Pulis is to blame for where we are right now. I'm also fully aware than a very large number of our fans will stick with the team no matter what and will continue to offer genuine support in our darkest hour. However those that sit there dead silent all game, those that ALWAYS leave early, those that only sing when we're winning... well it's time they got their shit together in my opinion.
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