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Post by mcf on Mar 8, 2013 14:24:26 GMT
we should have a rimmers v phw match and then get the wanktain fans to sit in the away end
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Mar 8, 2013 14:40:31 GMT
Tony Scholes explained that the club had looked at Big Games and asked what would be worthy to celebrate our 150 years. He suggested that we already play at least 19 big home games each year it was difficult to identify a game that would catch the imagination of everyone, baring perhaps a very small number of clubs, e.g. Barcelona or Real Madrid, which would be COST PROHIBITIVE. This sums up Tony Scholes for me. If there's no money to be made it's not worth doing. He's at the club to make profit and doesn't give two shits about the history of the club. - So "little old" Notts County managed to find the funds to pay for a match against Juventus and we can't justify a similar fixture? With a little thought and creativity there are a number of ways that it could be a money-making opportunity (if not necessarily at a profit). Special match programmes - priced at £10? £15? - limited run so inherently valuable; special commemorative merchandise available on the night* - badges, mugs, dare I say it - T shirts, etc; film the game and surrounding celebrations and sell it on DVD; special hospitality deals, etc etc etc. There is still time to do something before the opportunity to celebrate a significant anniversary slides past for another generation. * It would have to be a night game - right atmosphere I think.
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Post by Stoke70 on Mar 8, 2013 14:42:53 GMT
It could be a replay of our 26-0 victory on Mow Cop ( it wasn't under Pulis ).
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Mar 8, 2013 14:52:05 GMT
They shouldn't remove the Europa League signpost, it is a very nice touch. Can't we have both ffs??
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Post by Davef on Mar 8, 2013 20:18:17 GMT
If (and it looks as though it's going to happen now), we don't mark our 150th anniversary with a commemorative match, then all involved should be ashamed.
Back in 1963 when we celebrated our 100th anniversary, we'd just come off the back of the worst winter in living memory. The team were up to their necks in fixtures and were challenging for promotion back to the First Division. Despite this we were able to arrange a friendly against Real Madrid, then five times European Cup winners.
Now, on the occasion of our 150th anniversary, we're shrugging our shoulders because we play big games every week...do me a favour.
Has any thought or effort been put into this at all? Are those responsible not aware that we are the second oldest club in the Football League? One of the founder members of the Football League? The club of Sir Stanley Matthews? Has no-one even considered a friendly match against Ajax, the opponents in one of the most famous games in our history? Are we seriously believed to expect that a Premier League club couldn't get this organised?
I'm not very happy about this at all. We should be shouting this from the rooftops, but the club just don't seem that bothered.
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Post by werrington on Mar 8, 2013 20:20:10 GMT
If (and it looks as though it's going to happen now), we don't mark our 150th anniversary with a commemorative match, then all involved should hang their heads in shame. Back in 1963 when we celebrated our 100th anniversary, we'd just come off the back of the worst winter in living memory. The team were up to their necks in fixtures and where challenging for promotion back to the First Division. Despite this we were able to arrange a friendly against Real Madrid, then five times European Cup winners. Now, on the occasion of our 150th anniversary, we're shrugging our shoulders because we play big games every week...do me a favour. Has any thought or effort been put into this at all? Are those responsible not aware that we are the second oldest club in the Football League? One of the founder members of the Football League? The club of Sir Stanley Matthews? Has no-one even considered a friendly match against Ajax, the opponents in one of the most famous games in our history? Are we seriously believed to expect that a Premier League club couldn't get this organised? I'm not very happy about this at all. We should be shouting this from the rooftops, but the club just don't seem that bothered at all. Steady on Dave.....we got Rochdale to open the Brit!!! Some folk are never happy
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Post by DentySCFC on Mar 8, 2013 20:30:29 GMT
Rather sick of everything to do with our club at the moment. The football, the results, our 150 year celebrations. It all just wreeks of money, whether it be saving or attaining.
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Post by ST5-POTTER on Mar 8, 2013 20:34:39 GMT
Absolute disgrace if our 150 year celebrations are just brushed under the carpet.
We had the chance do something amazing, could have been a glamour friendly. A mini tournament like this "emirates cup" thing arsenal put on. Even if the club didnt think they would be able to attract madrid or juve etc then it would have been good to get the oldest clubs from each of the 4 division and have a mini tournament over a few days in the summer.
The home strip SHOULD have been changed, no sponsor etc. the oldest club in the premier league and we almost whisper it.
STOKE CITY FC PREMIER LEAGUE ON THE PITCH LEAGUE 2 OFF IT.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 8, 2013 20:37:28 GMT
I could live with a match against Ajax. Preferably away
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Post by salopstick on Mar 8, 2013 20:38:05 GMT
Absolute disgrace if our 150 year celebrations are just brushed under the carpet. We had the chance do something amazing, could have been a glamour friendly. A mini tournament like this "emirates cup" thing arsenal put on. Even if the club didnt think they would be able to attract madrid or juve etc then it would have been good to get the oldest clubs from each of the 4 division and have a mini tournament over a few days in the summer. The home strip SHOULD have been changed, no sponsor etc. the oldest club in the premier league and we almost whisper it. STOKE CITY FC PREMIER LEAGUE ON THE PITCH LEAGUE 2 OFF IT. Non fucking league tim
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Post by thevoid on Mar 8, 2013 20:46:15 GMT
What are Swansea doing for their Centenary?
Apart from winning a cup and sitting in the top 8...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 8, 2013 20:47:05 GMT
What are Swansea doing for their Centenary? Apart from winning and cups and sitting in the top 8... They've had that snazzy gold trim on their shirt.
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Post by skip on Mar 8, 2013 20:51:17 GMT
If Stoke City management don't sort out a match to celebrate our 150th anniversary they want fucking sacking.
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Post by Gunslinger on Mar 8, 2013 20:59:49 GMT
Tony Scholes said that "they are doing something special for the anniversary against Spurs" I'm not holding my breath. I'll tell you exactly what that is without even knowing - parading some older players around the pitch in the same manner that they do with the current squad at the final home game From the meeting minutes of the Fans Council 24th November 2012 150 Celebrations:- Adrian Hurst and Steve Buxton gave an update with regard celebrating the Club’s 150th Anniversary, They noted the following initiatives:-
- Celebration match – as discussed at the last meeting it was felt that it was not appropriate for the Club to have a separate celebration match, whilst playing “big games” every week against Premier League opposition. Accordingly the Club had identified one of the Premier League home matches in the second half of the season around which the celebration would be held.
- Community Projects – The Club are extremely keen that 150 anniversary should be inclusive and should be centred around community activities. In this regard, a community project has been set up to work with any of the 41 council wards – not just in 2013, but then moving forward as a legacy to the 150 celebrations. The Club’s community fund will allocate various amounts to projects which are proposed from the council wards.
- Directional Sign Post - The sign post outside of the Q-railing stand, which was used to celebrate the Club’s Europa League campaign, will be changed to show supporters 5 favourite moments in the Club’s history.
- Celebration Tile – Adrian Hurst explained that the presentation of the commemorative tile to opposition teams Board and supporter’s groups was progressing very successfully. In particular, he noted and many in the room agreed that opposition fans were receiving the presentation of the tile (carried out in front of the away fans) at each home game, extremely warmly. The individual tiles which are presented to the away teams are then combined to form a large mosaic which will be retained by the Club. Adrian further explained that a commemorative mug representing the full tile will be available for purchase sometime in the New Year. So in short 1) A walk around the pitch 2) Throwing money around as it's easier than using effort and thought (and it's something they were going to do anyway regardless of 150 year anniversary) 3) A signpost 4) 2 dozen or so tiles given to away teams It has been an absolute disgrace in most of the backroom departments at the club. Marketing, promotion etc. I would have loved a special edition home shirt or an iron on badge (like the Europa league one) you could have on your shirt etc. The current regime have wrecked the perfect excuse to be proud as punch, the club is 150 years old. Many of us wont be here to see the current playing squad hobble around the pitch for the 200 year celebration, but if the current lot are in charge are still here, that's the only celebration we will have This is how seriously they are taking it for God's sake - this is the only item in the 150 year range on scfcdirect and at £20 too An absolute fuck-up of the highest order at the club and a disgrace to the founders of this team, the area and it's heritage. We get a fucking flask and away teams get a commemorative tile!!!A pure unadulterated disgraceful shambles and something the club should acknowledge is shameful I just feel like crying reading about this. I totally agree about it being a f*@k-up of gigantic proportions. It has been a golden opportunity for the club both regarding PR and economic possibilities, but this special occation will only fizzle out almost without a trace. It's so incredibly sad, especially when you look upon how other clubs take care of anniversaries like this * Shakes head in utter disbelief*
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Post by fegghayze on Mar 8, 2013 21:17:16 GMT
Nobody at the club seems to respect the heritage of Stoke City which is the top and tail of it.
There is absolutely no excuse for holding a match of significance. We are too busy planting a plum tree and amending a fake road sign.
Listen to your support base, listen to your fans council (minutes from the official site I have quoted), it's a simple formula.
However, the only people the self centred quorum at the heart of the club seem to listen to, is whichever company is turning up with the most cash.
I hate to say it and I wouldnt change our league position, but if we were a Championship club, I dare bet that we would be marking our anniversary. One unwanted by-product of our lofty position in the league system is we have to accept that we have become something that we all despised.
We want a club that lives for it's fans in the same way fans live for the club. A club that respects the views of the fans rather than loyalty is purchased to the highest bidder with a membership scheme. A club where the fans council is there not for lip service and to rubber stamp the chipping away of the ties to the fan on the street, but as a representative of the supporter base.
The issue is that we have brought in commercial managers, marketing consultants and middle-managers from outside the area and they have taken over in a way where they don't care about the area and what the club stands for, as they have no affiliation, ties or affinity with the area. Which is ok if they embrace our values, but instead we have adopted theirs
We needed to bring our strategies into the Premier League era, but that has been at the expense of, and not in addition to, what has kept Stoke City at the heart of Stoke-on-Trent.
Fans are now seen as a toleration rather than the lifeblood and we seem to have staff, who due to the fact that we are a Premier League club, seem to actually believe their own hype, despite having archaic methodologies (the absolute mess they made of the direct debits I seem to recall as well as the player of the year awards in the stands where seat reservations were not processed, the FA cup ticket shambles where people were buying more than alloted, the fact that the club could not trace who was going to away matches or not, just several major errors in recent times, I could reel off many more).
The website must rank amongst the poorest in the division, despite the "improvements", the content on Stoke City Player is tedious to say the least. Publishing stories we have signed players despite the fact they didnt ever sign. Real amateur production.
What we seem to have done is keep what we needed to improve and remove the nucleus we wanted to preserve
To pass 150 glorious years of Stoke City with a fake road sign, a plum tree giveaway, an old player walkaround the track (I assume) and a thermos flask then we must mourn the loss of our heritage and our club.
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Post by skip on Mar 8, 2013 22:37:13 GMT
A flask. A flask. A shitting flask. With a collage of sepia tones photographs.
Seriously, someone who knows Peter Coates. Surrey Stokie - go down in folklore. Have a word with him for the love of God.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 8, 2013 22:38:20 GMT
Tbf there were wallets, key rings and scarves too. I presume they've sold out of them all and in true Stoke style not re-stocked.
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 8, 2013 22:55:31 GMT
Look at Arsenal last year. A nothing club with no real history to speak of asides from a few ill gotten gains from a particularly corrupt episode during which they became the original MK Dons and bribed their way into the First Division - they haven't been relegated or punished since. What did they do to celebrate 125 years of squalor, filth and villainy? They had a massive badge so that everyone knew about their poxy anniversary and they unveiled three massive statues outside their ground commemorating 'legends'.
Our richest attribute is a history that puts the rest of the league to shame. We should be doing absolutely everything we possibly can this season to belittle every single other club in the league and get out history out there. In this era of nothing before 1993 counting and the deluge of London clubs in the top division, we should make sure that every single football supporter recognises our full history. That we have done nothing is absolutely disgraceful and everybody at the club should be ashamed.
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Post by Davef on Mar 8, 2013 23:11:44 GMT
Our richest attribute is a history that puts the rest of the league to shame. Have you been drinking? Even if you dismiss the history of clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester United, there are still founder members of the league like Aston Villa, Everton and even West Brom whose history - and more importantly - honours lists piss all over ours. How on earth does our history put Everton's, with their nine league titles, five FA Cup wins and European success, to shame? There's nothing wrong with being proud of the club you support, but come on, don't be silly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 23:16:55 GMT
You'd think Stoke's biggest fan wouldn't allow this kind of anniversary to have passed almost unnoticed by the club.
Just wondering how many of you would have been surprised if the club had allowed this to happen when Coates was in charge the first time around?
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 8, 2013 23:17:27 GMT
Our richest attribute is a history that puts the rest of the league to shame. Have you been drinking? Even if you dismiss the history of clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester United, there are still founder members of the league like Aston Villa, Everton, West Brom and even Wolves whose history - a more importantly - honours lists piss all over ours. There's nothing wrong with being proud of the club you support, but come on, don't be silly. Maybe a little over the top there. Actually, definitely quite a bit over the top. I don't think it's completely unfair to have a top bracket in terms of history consisting of us, Everton, Villa and Brazil. Obviously if they were still here then Wolves and Bolton would be easy candidates, too. Everton and Villa absolutely thrash us on honours, but we just sneak in on longevity (being very, very generous). We should still be doing an awful lot more to ram this milestone down everybody's throats. I do wonder about a how useful a big match would be. I doubt it would attract masses of interest in the wider football world and presumably a team like Madrid or Barcelona would send over a reserve or even youth team. It's just not the same as the old days. We had a tribute game for Gordon Banks and ended up with Alastair bloody Campbell playing!
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Post by Davef on Mar 8, 2013 23:18:45 GMT
Have you been drinking? Even if you dismiss the history of clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester United, there are still founder members of the league like Aston Villa, Everton, West Brom and even Wolves whose history - a more importantly - honours lists piss all over ours. There's nothing wrong with being proud of the club you support, but come on, don't be silly. Maybe a little over the top there. Actually, definitely quite a bit over the top. Who, you or me?
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 8, 2013 23:19:11 GMT
Me.
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Post by Davef on Mar 8, 2013 23:21:39 GMT
Fair enough.
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 8, 2013 23:30:33 GMT
Sorry about that, should have made it clearer.
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