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Post by Pugsley on Feb 16, 2013 18:25:22 GMT
For all to see this year, especially in the cups.
Massively overpaid, over hyped, poor footballers and managers stealing a living. United won the league by March with their worst side in years.
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Post by norman conquest on Feb 16, 2013 18:29:00 GMT
As much as i agree with you post i thought the shit looked good v Madrid.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2013 18:31:59 GMT
Madrid aren't great this year, it was a good result for Man Yoo but I expected them to at least draw over there.
Arsenal vs Bayern will be the acid test imo. Although I think Arsenal may worry them but eventually lose.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 16, 2013 18:34:39 GMT
Madrid aren't great this year, it was a good result for Man Yoo but I expected them to at least draw over there. Arsenal vs Bayern will be the acid test imo. Although I think Arsenal may worry them but eventually lose. Bayern will win both legs, the home one comfortably. |
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Post by norman conquest on Feb 16, 2013 18:35:00 GMT
Madrid aren't great this year, it was a good result for Man Yoo but I expected them to at least draw over there. Arsenal vs Bayern will be the acid test imo. Although I think Arsenal may worry them but eventually lose. God i so hope they get spanked |
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 16, 2013 18:38:26 GMT
Madrid aren't great this year, it was a good result for Man Yoo but I expected them to at least draw over there. Arsenal vs Bayern will be the acid test imo. Although I think Arsenal may worry them but eventually lose. Hmm. Not sure, Bayern. Do you think the Arse will trouble them? Have you seen Bayern's away record in the Bundesliga? P 11 W 10 D 1 L 0 F 27 A 1 I really hope it's as painful for the Arse as it seems it could be. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2013 18:39:32 GMT
Madrid aren't great this year, it was a good result for Man Yoo but I expected them to at least draw over there. Arsenal vs Bayern will be the acid test imo. Although I think Arsenal may worry them but eventually lose. Bayern will win both legs, the home one comfortably. I hope so and I thought the same until the England game. That England game against Brazil gave me a nagging doubt though. Walcott ripped that Dante fella apart and he's the mainstay of the Bayern defence that has only conceded 7 all season in the league. Walcott made him look like Paul Williams.  |
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 16, 2013 18:41:11 GMT
Bayern will win both legs, the home one comfortably. I hope so and I thought the same until the England game. That England game against Brazil gave me a nagging doubt though. Walcott ripped that Dante fella apart and he's the mainstay of the Bayern defence that has only conceded 7 all season in the league. Walcott made him look like Paul Williams. Isn't Dante the centre-half? Wasn't it the kiddie Adriano, from Barca, that Walcott was destroying? |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 16, 2013 18:41:23 GMT
Wenger will concede defeat,the French usually do when Germans attack em. ;D
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2013 18:43:46 GMT
I hope so and I thought the same until the England game. That England game against Brazil gave me a nagging doubt though. Walcott ripped that Dante fella apart and he's the mainstay of the Bayern defence that has only conceded 7 all season in the league. Walcott made him look like Paul Williams. Isn't Dante the centre-half? Wasn't it the kiddie, Adriano, from Barca, that Walcott was destroying? Both of them I thought Grapey, he ran past Dante a few times like he wasn't there. And Dante nailed Wilshere twice with two very late tackles, I just think it will be a ploy of theirs to target him and draw him out like England did. |
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Post by werrington on Feb 16, 2013 18:44:29 GMT
Its a myth about The Premiership having the best players in the world also.
Messi Ronaldo etc etc
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 16, 2013 18:50:14 GMT
Guess we'll have to wait til Tuesday, Bayern! Any possibility of an Arsenal hammering is must watch TV, though!  Some seasoned Bundesliga watchers are raving about the Dante kiddie. But it's always hard to weigh up how strong a league is. It's not a vintage Premier League, though, to say the least! Let's face it, the claims of any league that we're sitting in 10th position in, to be the best in the world, are on the thinnest of thin ice! |
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Post by biganddaft on Feb 16, 2013 18:50:39 GMT
It's a great brand, but a bit like Heinz beans, not worth the extra cost!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2013 18:51:26 GMT
I still think Bayern will win but just watching him especially against the Arsenal fannies in the England side made me think.
Maybe he just had an off night, I don't know but I wasn't impressed but it's harsh to judge on one game obviously.
The Bundesliga clubs took a pasting in the Europa League which was a surprise.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 16, 2013 18:53:43 GMT
Just think that all the money has made some managers and players lazy.
We're miles behind European sides.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2013 18:58:23 GMT
I've said it before but it's worth repeating, together with Sky the Prem League leads the world in marketing itself and that's about it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2013 19:10:23 GMT
I think the quality of the German and Spanish top leagues is better now than that of our premier league.
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Post by scfc76 on Feb 16, 2013 19:42:28 GMT
We are 10th FFS that says it all, and we only play half the amount of league games compared to other premier league teams.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2013 19:55:00 GMT
Great game between Oldham and Everton. Tim Howard really is a bit cack.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 16, 2013 19:55:45 GMT
Time to finally acknowledge that the establishment of the Premier League was a huge mistake and to take steps to rectify our game. Abolish the Premier League, bring back Divisions One, Two, Three and Four, share gate receipts 50/50 between any two teams who play each other and share the television money evenly throughout all four divisions.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 16, 2013 20:41:40 GMT
Time to finally acknowledge that the establishment of the Premier League was a huge mistake and to take steps to rectify our game. Abolish the Premier League, bring back Divisions One, Two, Three and Four, share gate receipts 50/50 between any two teams who play each other and share the television money evenly throughout all four divisions. Great Idea,but will never happen,Cant see the likes of the Shit,,Arsoles etc.wanting to give up half the money from a 60/70 thousand gate,can you? |
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Post by greenhoff74 on Feb 16, 2013 22:01:55 GMT
Wenger will concede defeat,the French usually do when Germans attack em. ;D This sounds a bit like something Brian Clough would say. I remember him saying something about the Dutch being "unreliable", and then as an example of it saying how "the Germans invaded Holland and took it over in less an hour" |
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Post by block30row19 on Feb 16, 2013 22:13:16 GMT
I actually prefer Heinz baked beans to any other brand and always pay the extra. And having sampled the second and third tier with Stoke I would never swap it for the Prem.
but I'm easily pleased I suppose. ;D
Though take on board all the over paid stuff.
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Post by Gods on Feb 16, 2013 22:14:40 GMT
For all to see this year, especially in the cups. Massively overpaid, over hyped, poor footballers and managers stealing a living. United won the league by March with their worst side in years. Fergie says this United side is better than their class of 99. |
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Post by superstokie23 on Feb 17, 2013 2:27:02 GMT
For all to see this year, especially in the cups. Massively overpaid, over hyped, poor footballers and managers stealing a living. United won the league by March with their worst side in years. Fergie says this United side is better than their class of 99. No he hasn't. He said his forward line was better than the class of '99 |
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Post by Roy Cropper on Feb 17, 2013 4:20:36 GMT
So what is the best league Pugs? Because if we're going off that measurement then you can rule La Liga and the Bundesliga out (both of which have a 15 point gap at the top of the table).
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Post by bristolpotter on Feb 17, 2013 6:31:29 GMT
If anything, the Italian teams seem to be getting stronger, Juve, Napoli, Milan etc have picked up in the last couple of years and are competing with the big boys again, a few years ago our sides were smashing them at home and away.
The German league for me has it right in so many ways should be the blueprint with regards to ownership of clubs cost of tickets, free rail fare etc the average attendance in the Bundesliga is over 10000 more than the Prem you do the math.
I can't wait for the Prem to go pop!
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 17, 2013 8:23:25 GMT
So what is the best league Pugs? Because if we're going off that measurement then you can rule La Liga and the Bundesliga out (both of which have a 15 point gap at the top of the table). So why didn't Utd wipe the floor with Real on Wednesday? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2013 16:05:21 GMT
If anything, the Italian teams seem to be getting stronger, Juve, Napoli, Milan etc have picked up in the last couple of years and are competing with the big boys again, a few years ago our sides were smashing them at home and away. The German league for me has it right in so many ways should be the blueprint with regards to ownership of clubs cost of tickets, free rail fare etc the average attendance in the Bundesliga is over 10000 more than the Prem you do the math. I can't wait for the Prem to go pop! Haven't Napoli just been murdered at home in the Europa League by Plzen? Milan are in a period of transition too really, I think in the next 2/3 years though they'll become the force we expect them to be again. I think at the moment big negatives can planted on all of the big leagues. The Bundesliga though definitely seems to be the best to me though. Although with the attendance thing I'd like to see it as a percentage to overall population, there's what 15/20 million more Germans than us afterall. |
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Post by tuum on Feb 17, 2013 16:54:54 GMT
If anything, the Italian teams seem to be getting stronger, Juve, Napoli, Milan etc have picked up in the last couple of years and are competing with the big boys again, a few years ago our sides were smashing them at home and away. The German league for me has it right in so many ways should be the blueprint with regards to ownership of clubs cost of tickets, free rail fare etc the average attendance in the Bundesliga is over 10000 more than the Prem you do the math. I can't wait for the Prem to go pop! Haven't Napoli just been murdered at home in the Europa League by Plzen? Milan are in a period of transition too really, I think in the next 2/3 years though they'll become the force we expect them to be again. I think at the moment big negatives can planted on all of the big leagues. The Bundesliga though definitely seems to be the best to me though. Although with the attendance thing I'd like to see it as a percentage to overall population, there's what 15/20 million more Germans than us afterall. I am not a fan of the Premier League and will follow Stoke in whatever league they happen to be in but I still think it is the best league in the world. The German League has got it right in terms of seating and drinking etc and i think it has got it right in terms of attendance. If you look at where it has come from historically in terms of attendance it is very similar to the UK ( from the 70's onwards)but it is now improving year on year. Our attendances have improved but I think we have lost a lot of hard core fans at the expense of "tourists". i think Germany is improving its hard core fan base rather than a few 'look-sees'. Interestingly enough for a saddo, the Italian league had far and away the best attendances up until 1992 at which point people semed to want to watch the Premier League. As a marketing exercise the PL has been spectacularly successful. As a game that represents the people it has been a load of bollocks. Unfortunately, that is now the reality that we have created. I, for one, would be happy to see the PL go 'pop'. |
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