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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Oct 6, 2012 6:04:44 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 6, 2012 6:10:34 GMT
OK is that the end of this diabolical saga? I doubt it. It should have been over ages ago but some people enjoy the hating too much. Some of what has been said over all this is just ridiculous.
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Post by swampmongrel on Oct 6, 2012 6:17:38 GMT
He's just softening up his fans before he makes a cheaky bid in January The cunt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2012 6:21:25 GMT
He's playing it well now, he knows the more riled up the fans get, the more dedicated the players, hence no bollocks spouted before the home game this season.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 6, 2012 6:27:05 GMT
I wonder if there will be a Bank Holiday to celebrate Arsene Wenger Day?
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Post by biganddaft on Oct 6, 2012 6:30:41 GMT
He clearly does not understand how long Stokey's memories are, does he!
He will never get an easy ride when they visit the Brit, so it matters little what he says to appease us now.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 6, 2012 6:44:51 GMT
"Cleaned up his act". What the fuck are you on about you face rubbing mental twat.
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Post by skip on Oct 6, 2012 6:57:46 GMT
It may as well read: Arsene Wenger forgives Ryan Shawcross (but hasn't changed his mind about the nature of the tackle).
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 6, 2012 7:01:45 GMT
Exactly MoMo.
Just who the fuck does Wenger think he is?
"cleaned up his act" my arse. One mistimed tackle, not nearly as bad as those committed by many of his own players in the same season, indeed the same game, did not make Ryan the vicious player that he has been portrayed as for the past 3 years.
Wenger can go fuck himself and shove his endorsement of Ryan's call up where the sun doesn't shine!
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Post by wolvesstokie on Oct 6, 2012 7:23:43 GMT
The tackle by Koscielny on Wednesday was far worse, a tackle he only received a yellow card for.
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Oct 6, 2012 7:55:46 GMT
He's just softening up his fans before he makes a cheaky bid in January The cunt. That was my first thought to be honest, I wonder? He'll have to clear it with Ramsey first of course!
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 6, 2012 8:22:35 GMT
He wants to bury the hatchet? It needs burying in his fucking head. What a cunt, 'cleaned up his act'
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Post by foster on Oct 6, 2012 8:33:04 GMT
I'm just glad Ryan's finally cleaned up his act.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 6, 2012 8:39:46 GMT
What a patronising twat, Wenger is.
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Post by foster on Oct 6, 2012 8:43:57 GMT
He's just softening up his fans before he makes a cheaky bid in January The cunt. Wouldn't surprise me tbh.
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Post by Davef on Oct 6, 2012 8:50:50 GMT
I'm going to stick up for Wenger a little bit here.
Sure, he can stick his comments about Ryan cleaning up his act up his arse, but I'm pretty sure that he was just answering a question posed to him at his weekly press conference.
Okay, Wenger didn't have to answer the question, but it's the media who need to let this go. The number of newspaper articles about Ramsey and that fucking tackle, just one day after Ryan's England call up, was a disgrace.
How many articles or interviews have you read or heard from Hatem Ben Arfa about his broken leg in the last twelve months?
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Post by pmjh on Oct 6, 2012 8:54:34 GMT
What he shoiuld be saying is that the lad is an impeccable professional who should be a role model to young players unlike scumbags like Terry and Ferdinand.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 6, 2012 9:11:44 GMT
I'm going to stick up for Wenger a little bit here. Sure, he can stick his comments about Ryan cleaning up his act up his arse, but I'm pretty sure that he was just answering a question posed to him at his weekly press conference. Okay, Wenger didn't have to answer the question, but it's the media who need to let this go. The number of newspaper articles about Ramsey and that fucking tackle, just one day after Ryan's England call up, was a disgrace. How many articles or interviews have you read or heard from Hatem Ben Arfa about his broken leg in the last twelve months? The Mirror was a disgrace the day after Shawcross's call up. An article by Lipton referring using the word Thug in relation to Ryan and a simpering piece about Ramsey from Gooner halfwit John Cross. There's no way Wenger gets any respite from me though. His behavour at the time led to this victimisation and this response just perpetuates the myth that at one time Shawcross was a serial leg breaking savage. The man in is a complete twat.
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Post by pretzel on Oct 6, 2012 9:48:27 GMT
I'm going to stick up for Wenger a little bit here. Sure, he can stick his comments about Ryan cleaning up his act up his arse, but I'm pretty sure that he was just answering a question posed to him at his weekly press conference. Okay, Wenger didn't have to answer the question, but it's the media who need to let this go. The number of newspaper articles about Ramsey and that fucking tackle, just one day after Ryan's England call up, was a disgrace. How many articles or interviews have you read or heard from Hatem Ben Arfa about his broken leg in the last twelve months? Total agreement with this post
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 6, 2012 9:54:22 GMT
Exactly MoMo. Just who the fuck does Wenger think he is? "cleaned up his act" my arse. One mistimed tackle, not nearly as bad as those committed by many of his own players in the same season, indeed the same game, did not make Ryan the vicious player that he has been portrayed as for the past 3 years. Wenger can go fuck himself and shove his endorsement of Ryan's call up where the sun doesn't shine! Precisely DJ. I know where Davef is coming from and he's right that the press want to stir it up but Wenger's comments are holier than thou stuff. Odious cretin.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 6, 2012 10:25:49 GMT
On the one hand, you have to give some credit to him for trying to calm things down and maybe, just maybe, this will get one or two journalists off Ryan's back. The 'cleaned up his act' line shows that he's still a tool who doesn't have a clue, but at least he's actually done the right thing. His attempts at diplomacy have been quite interesting. Since the 3-1 thrashing a couple of years ago, he's always been very reserved in pre and post match press conferences and this year he spent the entire game sat in his dugout, while sending his team out to just keep the ball and play for a 0-0 draw.
However, it is a bit galling that he says that he shouldn't be damned by the incident for his whole life. Isn't that pretty much what you tried to achieve, Arsene? Let's not pretend that he tried to do anything other than sacrifice Ryan's career just so he got a few more decisions in his upcoming fixtures. He knew exactly what would happen if he reacted how he did, he knew exactly how it would pan out and he knew exactly what he was doing. It's a bit rich to call off a witch-hunt that he instigated.
Perhaps we can think about forgiving him when he apologises for the conduct of his team on that day, apologises for repeatedly lying about our team in the press and takes serious measures to prevent his team's non-stop diving and feigning injury.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 6, 2012 10:54:00 GMT
I don't think Wenger deserves to be cut any slack. It isn't as if his hypocritical response to the Shawcross/Ramsey incident was out of character. For his first few years in charge of Arsenal, when he inherited some "tasty" defenders who could have given Ryan lessons in how to "put himself about," all we heard from Arsene after yet another red card for his players was "I did not see eet." Miraculously, when his own player gets his leg broken, he has suddenly developed 20/20 vision PLUS insight into what Ryan was thinking at the time of the challenge AND what TP's team talks were when he "sent the Stoke players onto the pitch so pumped up that trouble was inevitable" or words to that effect. Sorry, Arsene, you have form, you are a hypocrite and you deserve every bit of bad luck that comes the way of your team.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 6, 2012 11:06:24 GMT
It's a bit rich to call off a witch-hunt that he instigated. . Excellently put MD.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2012 11:08:44 GMT
Ryan never had an act to clean up , if the press would leave it alone everyone else would as well. It's in the past and done with, but if Wenger thinks we will forget what he said about It and Stoke in general he's in cuckoo land...he will always be vilified at the Brit.
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Post by buiskatthebrit on Oct 6, 2012 12:48:34 GMT
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 6, 2012 12:50:15 GMT
Now watch him made a bid in January 20m please
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 6, 2012 12:55:05 GMT
He never had an act to clean up, but at least hes finally moving on a bit now, still a twat though.
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Post by djcstokey on Oct 6, 2012 13:06:36 GMT
my first thought was hmm... fair play to arsehole, but then i thought... nah he's still a bellend, who cares what he says.
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 6, 2012 13:12:44 GMT
Have to say, that's impressive considering, and a fair assessment of Ryan too. +1 to the bellend
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Post by echetus on Oct 6, 2012 13:18:58 GMT
Would be nice if the next time Arsenal played Stoke the media and the forums would talk of something other than Shawcross's tackle on Ramsey. Both clubs keep talking it down but it seems everyone else still wants to talk about it.
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