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Post by smigchop on Jun 18, 2012 14:53:49 GMT
I think people think about things too much!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 14:57:00 GMT
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/12/euro-2012-england-fan-muslim-crusadesManchester United fan/Guardian writer massively misses the point and lays into England fans who dress up as St. George. He claims that they're dressed up ''as Knights Templar hordes'' ...''to brandish a sword and recall the brutal and bloody invasion of Muslim lands is portrayed as harmless banter'' Symptomatic of the hand wringing sensitivity from the 'nu football fan'? Should we now avoid making two fingered gestures as they may upset Frenchmen who might've had ancestors on the field at Agincourt? Or does he have a valid point? He makes it sound like Only England was responsible for the crusades , I would point out that the Crusaders were not only from England but from all over Europe, particularly France, Germany, Spain, Italy.....it's over 800 years ago ,get over it man !
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Post by Spiros on Jun 18, 2012 15:07:35 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 18, 2012 15:18:15 GMT
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/12/euro-2012-england-fan-muslim-crusadesManchester United fan/Guardian writer massively misses the point and lays into England fans who dress up as St. George. He claims that they're dressed up ''as Knights Templar hordes'' ...''to brandish a sword and recall the brutal and bloody invasion of Muslim lands is portrayed as harmless banter'' Symptomatic of the hand wringing sensitivity from the 'nu football fan'? Should we now avoid making two fingered gestures as they may upset Frenchmen who might've had ancestors on the field at Agincourt? Or does he have a valid point? He makes it sound like Only England was responsible for the crusades , I would point out that the Crusaders were not only from England but from all over Europe, particularly France, Germany, Spain, Italy.....it's over 800 years ago ,get over it man ! Good point that. I wonder why fans of those countries don't go to football matches dressed in military costume from that period?
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jun 18, 2012 15:26:17 GMT
I don't care a flying fuck what he thinks! Cunts like him will continue to fuck this country over as long as the pc dogooders let them. So basically the country is fucked!
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Post by StoKeith on Jun 18, 2012 15:32:28 GMT
Bombers tend not to shoot planes down. The RAF from England (Perhaps in Spitfires/Hurricanes) would shoot one down (A German bomber) Then there'd be a specified number of bombers in the air (minus of course the one that has just been shot down) And so the cycle would continue. Technically, the RAF is from the United Kingdom, not just England.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 18, 2012 15:45:46 GMT
I don't care a flying fuck what he thinks! Cunts like him will continue to fuck this country over as long as the pc dogooders let them. So basically the country is fucked! Shame there's not more like you to sort the country out.
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Post by yogibear78 on Jun 18, 2012 15:49:18 GMT
English when it suits, Muslim when it suits.
I wish I could do that.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 18, 2012 15:54:44 GMT
English when it suits, Muslim when it suits. I wish I could do that. Whats stopping you? Convert to Islam.
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Post by yogibear78 on Jun 18, 2012 16:00:00 GMT
English when it suits, Muslim when it suits. I wish I could do that. Whats stopping you? Convert to Islam. What I mean is there are that many dogooders in this country that the slightest murmour of Muslim discrimination gets them away with a lot, I also wish I could have 8 kids and go down the social for my child support while my hubby drives a taxi for cash. ( I was once playing pool in my mates bedroom and I looked down ito a car with a muslim woman in there who lived up the road with her tribe, she pulled out of her bag about 8 or 9 different social books and flicked through them to make sure they were all there).
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 18, 2012 16:04:57 GMT
Whats stopping you? Convert to Islam. What I mean is there are that many dogooders in this country that the slightest murmour of Muslim discrimination gets them away with a lot, I also wish I could have 8 kids and go down the social for my child support while my hubby drives a taxi for cash. ( I was once playing pool in my mates bedroom and I looked down ito a car with a muslim woman in there who lived up the road with her tribe, she pulled out of her bag about 8 or 9 different social books and flicked through them to make sure they were all there). Yes, isn't it amazing that people feel discriminated against when the complaints against them are based on such cast-iron evidence as people looking out of their mate's bedroom window while playing pool.
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Post by yogibear78 on Jun 18, 2012 16:06:33 GMT
yeah but these same dogooders wonder why the country is in a mess.
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Post by qualityperfectreal on Jun 18, 2012 16:06:43 GMT
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/12/euro-2012-england-fan-muslim-crusadesManchester United fan/Guardian writer massively misses the point and lays into England fans who dress up as St. George. He claims that they're dressed up ''as Knights Templar hordes'' ...''to brandish a sword and recall the brutal and bloody invasion of Muslim lands is portrayed as harmless banter'' Symptomatic of the hand wringing sensitivity from the 'nu football fan'? Should we now avoid making two fingered gestures as they may upset Frenchmen who might've had ancestors on the field at Agincourt? Or does he have a valid point? I ain't read the article after the 1st para, for god's sake will we be dictated to on what we wear to football now? Most muslims prob don't wanna be England fans anyway.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 18, 2012 16:07:13 GMT
Whats stopping you? Convert to Islam. What I mean is there are that many dogooders in this country that the slightest murmour of Muslim discrimination gets them away with a lot, I also wish I could have 8 kids and go down the social for my child support while my hubby drives a taxi for cash. ( I was once playing pool in my mates bedroom and I looked down ito a car with a muslim woman in there who lived up the road with her tribe, she pulled out of her bag about 8 or 9 different social books and flicked through them to make sure they were all there). Far too many do-gooders in the world full stop. Who do they think they are? Going around doing good and stuff. Wankers.
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Post by thevoid on Jun 18, 2012 16:10:09 GMT
Yet he supports a club whose nickname and crest are inspired by an entity from a Christian religious text ???
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Post by foster on Jun 18, 2012 16:10:40 GMT
The simple answer to the OP is 'Yes' and 'There are'.
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Post by stokeramblers on Jun 18, 2012 17:02:40 GMT
Whats stopping you? Convert to Islam. What I mean is there are that many dogooders in this country that the slightest murmour of Muslim discrimination gets them away with a lot, I also wish I could have 8 kids and go down the social for my child support while my hubby drives a taxi for cash. ( I was once playing pool in my mates bedroom and I looked down ito a car with a muslim woman in there who lived up the road with her tribe, she pulled out of her bag about 8 or 9 different social books and flicked through them to make sure they were all there). I've always had you down as a bit daft yogi. Unfortunately you're a prejudiced bigot too. For shame Yogi. For shame... I await your smart arse, points scoring reply... ;D
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Post by RAF on Jun 18, 2012 17:03:57 GMT
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/12/euro-2012-england-fan-muslim-crusadesManchester United fan/Guardian writer massively misses the point and lays into England fans who dress up as St. George. He claims that they're dressed up ''as Knights Templar hordes'' ...''to brandish a sword and recall the brutal and bloody invasion of Muslim lands is portrayed as harmless banter'' Symptomatic of the hand wringing sensitivity from the 'nu football fan'? Should we now avoid making two fingered gestures as they may upset Frenchmen who might've had ancestors on the field at Agincourt? Or does he have a valid point? He makes it sound like Only England was responsible for the crusades , I would point out that the Crusaders were not only from England but from all over Europe, particularly France, Germany, Spain, Italy.....it's over 800 years ago ,get over it man ! The jocks still haven't got over Culloden yet either. H
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Post by lordb on Jun 18, 2012 17:08:18 GMT
I know a Hindu England fan (who supports India at cricket)
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Post by StokeyMan on Jun 18, 2012 17:38:20 GMT
I bloody can't believe that this John Terry - Rio Ferdinand is still an issue! John Terry is a tit, quite possibly racist although he has NOT been proved to be YET. But, this doesn't change the fact that he is a better player than Rio, who due to injury, has lost the best part of his game, his pace. How can we ever succeed when STILL the manager is slandered for making bold calls.
Two years ago, after failing in the World Cup to the youthful exciting Germans, we decided that we no longer wanted the older, household names, and that we would encourage the next manager to change something big, and bring some youth into the squad. NOW ROY IS SLANDERED FOR LEAVING RIO BEHIND, WHICH IS A JUSTIFIED DECISION.
I'm happy for anyone to support my country, and would encourage it as I still love England. However, I hope stupid people like the author would up and go, rather than cause upset and unrest among the fans. Again, the media attempts to unsettle our chances of happiness within a tournament.
Disgraceful article.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jun 18, 2012 17:40:43 GMT
I bloody can't believe that this John Terry - Rio Ferdinand is still an issue! John Terry is a tit, quite possibly racist although he has NOT been proved to be YET. But, this doesn't change the fact that he is a better player than Rio, who due to injury, has lost the best part of his game, his pace. How can we ever succeed when STILL the manager is slandered for making bold calls. Two years ago, after failing in the World Cup to the youthful exciting Germans, we decided that we no longer wanted the older, household names, and that we would encourage the next manager to change something big, and bring some youth into the squad. NOW ROY IS SLANDERED FOR LEAVING RIO BEHIND, WHICH IS A JUSTIFIED DECISION. I'm happy for anyone to support my country, and would encourage it as I still love England. However, I hope stupid people like the author would up and go, rather than cause upset and unrest among the fans. Again, the media attempts to unsettle our chances of happiness within a tournament. Disgraceful article. Some just love to use the race card. The trouble is a lot of middle class white people are waving them on others behalf.
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Post by steventweed on Jun 18, 2012 17:40:47 GMT
Whats stopping you? Convert to Islam. What I mean is there are that many dogooders in this country that the slightest murmour of Muslim discrimination gets them away with a lot, I also wish I could have 8 kids and go down the social for my child support while my hubby drives a taxi for cash. ( I was once playing pool in my mates bedroom and I looked down ito a car with a muslim woman in there who lived up the road with her tribe, she pulled out of her bag about 8 or 9 different social books and flicked through them to make sure they were all there). Coming from someone who once said (under a previous username) on gay people "it's not Adam & Steve, it's Adam And Eve" without a hint of irony (or the knowledge you were quoting Alan Partridge-a character often parodic of these kind of attitudes) this level of small minded, bigotted cuntery doesn't surprise me one bit. You really are a specimen.
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 18, 2012 17:58:24 GMT
Well who really cares what Muslims think being English ,a Muslim ,and a football fan . Why do we constantly have to be on the back foot in this country about offending the sensibilitys of Muslims ,they are the most intolerant people of other people's customs and beliefs .crusaders are 1000years in the past , what should they dress as Morris dancers .
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Post by maxplonk on Jun 18, 2012 18:01:56 GMT
what should they dress as Morris dancers . Given that"Morris" dancing is suposed to derive from"Moorish" dancing, that would probably be deemed acceptable......
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Post by foster on Jun 18, 2012 18:03:08 GMT
Well who really cares what Muslims think being English ,a Muslim ,and a football fan . Why do we constantly have to be on the back foot in this country about offending the sensibilitys of Muslims ,they are the most intolerant people of other people's customs and beliefs .crusaders are 1000years in the past , what should they dress as Morris dancers . Classic!
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Post by stokeramblers on Jun 18, 2012 18:10:56 GMT
Well who really cares what Muslims think being English ,a Muslim ,and a football fan . Why do we constantly have to be on the back foot in this country about offending the sensibilitys of Muslims ,they are the most intolerant people of other people's customs and beliefs .crusaders are 1000years in the past , what should they dress as Morris dancers . Signed, Mr. I.Ron.E
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Post by meirmortal on Jun 18, 2012 20:55:20 GMT
I don't give a shit what muslims think about! +1
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Post by st2potter on Jun 18, 2012 22:12:43 GMT
Same as Danes dressing as Vikings, or Spurns chantin Yids/Yid Army. Is it racist? Bollocks is it.
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Post by greyman on Jun 18, 2012 22:18:14 GMT
SS
I've told you before. Saying PC dogooders makes you look like a thick reactionary bigot and we know you're not.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 18, 2012 22:22:06 GMT
Whats stopping you? Convert to Islam. What I mean is there are that many dogooders in this country that the slightest murmour of Muslim discrimination gets them away with a lot, I also wish I could have 8 kids and go down the social for my child support while my hubby drives a taxi for cash. ( I was once playing pool in my mates bedroom and I looked down ito a car with a muslim woman in there who lived up the road with her tribe, she pulled out of her bag about 8 or 9 different social books and flicked through them to make sure they were all there). So why weren't you at work?
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