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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 4, 2012 20:23:07 GMT
I think that's being ultra kind to him, mate. As you say Huth hardly touched him so it's fair to assume he knew he wasn't in any pain. 22 or not, plenty of players know how to "play the game" and it didn't look that great to be honest. No one knows how awkwardly he landed. No one knows how his knee stood up to the impact after having two major surgeries on it in the past 18 months or so. No one knows how hard he felt the impact of the tackle. And there was impact. I don't buy this 'didn't touch him' nonsense. Look at the leg he kciks the ball with. It is on the follow through as Huth goes through him and ends up behind him when Huth is past him. So happy to concede the ref got it wrong, but a bunch of people basically wallowing in ignorance, making presumptions left right and centre to form the basis of a character assassination on a player is very poor form indeed. Imagine if it was Sidebe after all his injury problems in the same position. People here would be queueing up to give him the benefit of the doubt. Some fair comments, mate but I think most people are judging him by his rapid recovery rather than his injury record. I don't particularly blame him as it was Atkinson who saw something nobody else had, I just think the lad's actions probably didn't help.
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Post by oasis on Feb 4, 2012 20:24:53 GMT
Your posts are usually made up of common sense, knowledge and a fair point of view but to defend blatant cheating is wrong. I couldn't give a fucking bean if he has been injured before...cheating is cheating. The ball had not been played before he went to ground at all. I wish he had caught him quite a bit more, atleast then we could have had no complaints...
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 4, 2012 20:29:08 GMT
We're all very one-eyed with our own team.
But, to my eyes, Meyler's actions were f****g despicable.
Leaves a very, very sour taste in the mouth.
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Post by captainfishpaste on Feb 4, 2012 20:38:35 GMT
We're all very one-eyed with our own team. But, to my eyes, Meyler's actions were f****g despicable. Leaves a very, very sour taste in the mouth. For me, Huth's tackle was idiotic and dangerous and we could easily be sat here talking about another leg break at the Brit. The fact so many Stoke fans are assassinating Meyler's character for being on the end of it is utterly sick and appalling.
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Post by captainfishpaste on Feb 4, 2012 20:40:07 GMT
Your posts are usually made up of common sense, knowledge and a fair point of view but to defend blatant cheating is wrong. I couldn't give a fucking bean if he has been injured before...cheating is cheating. The ball had not been played before he went to ground at all. I wish he had caught him quite a bit more, atleast then we could have had no complaints... ... and that WASN'T cheating. Clearing one goalmouth of snow and not the other, on the other hand...
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Post by seddonstandviewer on Feb 4, 2012 20:41:34 GMT
We're all very one-eyed with our own team. But, to my eyes, Meyler's actions were f****g despicable. Leaves a very, very sour taste in the mouth. For me, Huth's tackle was idiotic and dangerous and we could easily be sat here talking about another leg break at the Brit. The fact so many Stoke fans are assassinating Meyler's character for being on the end of it is utterly sick and appalling. Rubbish and stop defending the indefensible. He went down, he stayed down and he got back up when he knew the card was produced. It wasn't the only time he did it during the 90 minutes and he pent a fair wedge of the game chasing the referee and pointing to different parts of his body. If yo uso desperately want to defend that and support that then fair play to you and be on your way, with the utmost respect. But please, don't try and come on here and try to spin it round to justify the players actions. Disgusting.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Feb 4, 2012 20:41:39 GMT
Sorry, like, but it is absolutely appalling that people are calling Meyler a cheat on here. Yes he didn't catch him too badly, but there was some contact and Meyler had to basically jump out of the way of it and risk an awkward landing or basically risk another career threatening injury. Huth went to ground AFTER Meyler had played the ball, and with his injury record he has every right to stay down and have it checked. In fact he would be stupid not to. Huth didn't have to commit to the tackle like he did and to go to ground in that fashion and in those conditions is asking for trouble and pure idiocy. A lot of people on this thread sounding like Liverpool fans: "Poor us. Someone else's fault. Cry cry cry." Poor decision from Huth to go to ground after the ball had gone, poor decision from the referee to send him off when a yellow would have sufficed, but to call into question the professional and sporting integrity of a 22-year-old kid who's been through hell with injuries already for staying down and fearing the worst again is shockingly poor craic. its not the 'staying down' part.... its rolling around like hes been shot, when in reality hes been brushed at most.
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Post by fca47 on Feb 4, 2012 20:42:14 GMT
What really annoyed me was his lack of class as he went off. Indicating the score and wallowing in the adulation for his cheating.
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Post by wuzza on Feb 4, 2012 20:42:24 GMT
With all due respect Captain if every player went down like that lad did when there was hardly ANY contact this game would be finished. He did what he did, he cheated an idiot ref (who we knew exactly what to expect of) and thats the end of the story. The pictures dont lie.
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Post by captainfishpaste on Feb 4, 2012 20:43:30 GMT
With all due respect Captain if every player went down like that lad did when there was hardly ANY contact this game would be finished. He did what he did, he cheated an idiot ref (who we knew exactly what to expect of) and thats the end of the story. The pictures dont lie. The card was out before the ref had even looked at Meyler, man. The reaction to the tackle influenced nothing.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 4, 2012 20:43:44 GMT
We're all very one-eyed with our own team. But, to my eyes, Meyler's actions were f****g despicable. Leaves a very, very sour taste in the mouth. For me, Huth's tackle was idiotic and dangerous and we could easily be sat here talking about another leg break at the Brit. The fact so many Stoke fans are assassinating Meyler's character for being on the end of it is utterly sick and appalling. The problem with that though, is that he wasn't hurt and his speedy recovery proved that. If you get hit you know about it and he wasn't. He didn't need to roll around as he wasn't injured. If he was he wouldn't have come straight back on the pitch as he did. To be honest, being 22 is irrelevant in my opinion, mate as is his previous injury record. You're either hurt or you're not and he wasn't.
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Post by snapotter on Feb 4, 2012 20:44:39 GMT
We're all very one-eyed with our own team. But, to my eyes, Meyler's actions were f****g despicable. Leaves a very, very sour taste in the mouth. For me, Huth's tackle was idiotic and dangerous and we could easily be sat here talking about another leg break at the Brit. The fact so many Stoke fans are assassinating Meyler's character for being on the end of it is utterly sick and appalling. So some people can't question Meyler's professional integrity, but it's ok for you to call Huth "idiotic" and "dangerous"? Hmmmm.....
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Post by smigchop on Feb 4, 2012 20:45:12 GMT
Feigning injury is cheating. Saying he had every right to stay down and get it checked... yes this would be the case if huth touched him, or he was actually in any pain at all. But seeing as he wasnt hurt and instead he was just cheating... just makes you look like a dickhead.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 4, 2012 20:48:54 GMT
If a Stoke player acted like that I'd hang my head in shame captain. You defend the undefendable though.
Yet another bunch claiming the moral high ground.
Football is dead.
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Post by tazi on Feb 4, 2012 20:49:19 GMT
Huth never touched the dirty cheating tvvat....
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Post by captainfishpaste on Feb 4, 2012 20:50:24 GMT
For me, Huth's tackle was idiotic and dangerous and we could easily be sat here talking about another leg break at the Brit. The fact so many Stoke fans are assassinating Meyler's character for being on the end of it is utterly sick and appalling. So some people can't question Meyler's professional integrity, but it's ok for you to call Huth "idiotic" and "dangerous"? Hmmmm..... No one knows if Meyler did feign injury though. He could have taken a knock from the fall or the contact (which there was). We know that to dive in AFTER the ball has been played in those conditions is idiotic and dangerous, though. Anyway, I will take my leave from Oatcake for the evening to let people happily wallow in their self-pitying and blame-gaming. I wouldn't expect any of you to not defend your own so I am sure you can understand my refusal to apologise for defending my own. We won the game, you lot need to lash out. I understand.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Feb 4, 2012 20:50:37 GMT
also, huth pulled out whilst sliding! so there was no intent nor was it high
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Post by captainfishpaste on Feb 4, 2012 20:51:53 GMT
For me, Huth's tackle was idiotic and dangerous and we could easily be sat here talking about another leg break at the Brit. The fact so many Stoke fans are assassinating Meyler's character for being on the end of it is utterly sick and appalling. The problem with that though, is that he wasn't hurt and his speedy recovery proved that. If you get hit you know about it and he wasn't. He didn't need to roll around as he wasn't injured. If he was he wouldn't have come straight back on the pitch as he did. To be honest, being 22 is irrelevant in my opinion, mate as is his previous injury record. You're either hurt or you're not and he wasn't. Not seriously hurt, no. But as long as he thought he was hurt at the time, or took a whack which felt worse than it was (as can often be the case in very cold weather), then his reaction is perfectly fair enough surely? Not a case of 'seriously injured or lying'. Plenty middle ground to offer the benefit of the doubt, as I am sure you would do if it was a Stoke player. Anyway, I'm off. Take care marra.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Feb 4, 2012 20:52:55 GMT
My honest opinion in this is meyler's reaction is a bit of a distraction from the incident , at the game I thought it was a yellow / red , wank foolish challenge !
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Post by tazi on Feb 4, 2012 20:52:57 GMT
So some people can't question Meyler's professional integrity, but it's ok for you to call Huth "idiotic" and "dangerous"? Hmmmm..... No one knows if Meyler did feign injury though. He could have taken a knock from the fall or the contact (which there was). We know that to dive in AFTER the ball has been played in those conditions is idiotic and dangerous, though. Anyway, I will take my leave from Oatcake for the evening to let people happily wallow in their self-pitying and blame-gaming. I wouldn't expect any of you to not defend your own so I am sure you can understand my refusal to apologise for defending my own. We won the game, you lot need to lash out. I understand. Dirty cheating tvvats......
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Post by seddonstandviewer on Feb 4, 2012 20:53:12 GMT
So some people can't question Meyler's professional integrity, but it's ok for you to call Huth "idiotic" and "dangerous"? Hmmmm..... No one knows if Meyler did feign injury though. He could have taken a knock from the fall or the contact (which there was). We know that to dive in AFTER the ball has been played in those conditions is idiotic and dangerous, though. Anyway, I will take my leave from Oatcake for the evening to let people happily wallow in their self-pitying and blame-gaming. I wouldn't expect any of you to not defend your own so I am sure you can understand my refusal to apologise for defending my own. We won the game, you lot need to lash out. I understand. Save it, captain. I thought you were better than this.
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Post by smigchop on Feb 4, 2012 20:53:24 GMT
So some people can't question Meyler's professional integrity, but it's ok for you to call Huth "idiotic" and "dangerous"? Hmmmm..... No one knows if Meyler did feign injury though. He could have taken a knock from the fall or the contact (which there was). We know that to dive in AFTER the ball has been played in those conditions is idiotic and dangerous, though. Anyway, I will take my leave from Oatcake for the evening to let people happily wallow in their self-pitying and blame-gaming. I wouldn't expect any of you to not defend your own so I am sure you can understand my refusal to apologise for defending my own. We won the game, you lot need to lash out. I understand. I guess we will never never know whether it was that strong wind that sent larsson tumbling at wolves too.
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Post by boscfc on Feb 4, 2012 20:55:04 GMT
We're all very one-eyed with our own team. But, to my eyes, Meyler's actions were f****g despicable. Leaves a very, very sour taste in the mouth. For me, Huth's tackle was idiotic and dangerous and we could easily be sat here talking about another leg break at the Brit. The fact so many Stoke fans are assassinating Meyler's character for being on the end of it is utterly sick and appalling. Utter drivel. The guy feigned injury to get another pro sent off so you can expect a reaction on here. Trying to defend it is pathetic and sad.
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Post by mtm on Feb 4, 2012 20:58:27 GMT
I actually thought the lad was Sunderland's best player today, but a cheat is a cheat and it will affect the rest of his career in England. I'm sure he's devastated marra
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Post by snapotter on Feb 4, 2012 20:59:55 GMT
So some people can't question Meyler's professional integrity, but it's ok for you to call Huth "idiotic" and "dangerous"? Hmmmm..... No one knows if Meyler did feign injury though. He could have taken a knock from the fall or the contact (which there was). We know that to dive in AFTER the ball has been played in those conditions is idiotic and dangerous, though. So you can be certain the challenge was idiotic and dangerous, but no one can be certain that Meyler feigned injury? Interesting logic.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 4, 2012 21:05:48 GMT
The problem with that though, is that he wasn't hurt and his speedy recovery proved that. If you get hit you know about it and he wasn't. He didn't need to roll around as he wasn't injured. If he was he wouldn't have come straight back on the pitch as he did. To be honest, being 22 is irrelevant in my opinion, mate as is his previous injury record. You're either hurt or you're not and he wasn't. Not seriously hurt, no. But as long as he thought he was hurt at the time, or took a whack which felt worse than it was (as can often be the case in very cold weather), then his reaction is perfectly fair enough surely? Not a case of 'seriously injured or lying'. Plenty middle ground to offer the benefit of the doubt, as I am sure you would do if it was a Stoke player. Anyway, I'm off. Take care marra. All the best, mate. We're always going to look through our own club tinted specs so we'll always fight that corner no matter what.
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Post by march4 on Feb 4, 2012 21:08:17 GMT
We're all very one-eyed with our own team. But, to my eyes, Meyler's actions were f****g despicable. Leaves a very, very sour taste in the mouth. For me, Huth's tackle was idiotic and dangerous and we could easily be sat here talking about another leg break at the Brit. The fact so many Stoke fans are assassinating Meyler's character for being on the end of it is utterly sick and appalling. It wasn't even a tackle captain. He slid on both knees on an icy pitch in the middle of a blizzard. Second time this season the entire world has seen cheating by a Sunderland player.
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Post by Etain Tur-Mukan on Feb 4, 2012 21:11:47 GMT
Meyler is a fucking cheat and his teammates are scum as well, surrounding the referee like that baying for a red card.
I'm so glad Stoke aren't like that.
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 4, 2012 21:26:38 GMT
The problem with that though, is that he wasn't hurt and his speedy recovery proved that. If you get hit you know about it and he wasn't. He didn't need to roll around as he wasn't injured. If he was he wouldn't have come straight back on the pitch as he did. To be honest, being 22 is irrelevant in my opinion, mate as is his previous injury record. You're either hurt or you're not and he wasn't. Not seriously hurt, no. But as long as he thought he was hurt at the time, or took a whack which felt worse than it was (as can often be the case in very cold weather), then his reaction is perfectly fair enough surely? Not a case of 'seriously injured or lying'. Plenty middle ground to offer the benefit of the doubt, as I am sure you would do if it was a Stoke player. Anyway, I'm off. Take care marra. Meyler seemed to think he had been seriously hurt a couple of times in the second half. On each occasion he was mistaken. Feigning injury once maybe excusable. Rolling around on the floor pretending to be hurt at least 3 times in one game is cheating. David Meyler is a Cheat. Seb Larson's performance over by the dugouts late on in the second half was also cheating.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 21:30:31 GMT
You want the game to be more honest?
Video replays - at the time of the game-changing incident and after the game to catch the divers and injury fakers.
Sepp Blatter needs to die first, sadly.
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