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Post by MarkWolstanton on Nov 21, 2011 13:05:30 GMT
Well they are pretty keen on the idea. www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/owls_sign_him_up_1_3988346its based on the fact that the lad is producing week in week out superb displays for them. This at a time where our out of form wide men have no competition for their places other than to stick a full back or aged midfielder in. Its easy to pre-judge a situation but should this haPpen people will draw their own conclusions in terms of the future for young players at our club under the present regime. It will be worth watching how this one pans out. Perhaps St peter will step in again as he did when certain parts of the management were more than happy to accept a bid for Shotton.
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Post by werrington on Nov 21, 2011 13:06:43 GMT
Well they are pretty keen on the idea. www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/owls_sign_him_up_1_3988346its based on the fact that the lad is producing week in week out superb displays for them. This at a time where our out of form wide men have no competition for their places other than to stick a full back or aged midfielder in. Its easy to pre-judge a situation but should this haPpen people will draw their own conclusions in terms of the future for young players at our club under the present regime. It will be worth watching how this one pans out. Perhaps St peter will step in again as he did when certain parts of the management were more than happy to accept a bid for Shotton. What do you mean no competition?? We got Rory and Walters and not forgetting Wilko wide left in Tel Aviv
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Post by rawli on Nov 21, 2011 13:08:20 GMT
As if he's ready for Premier League football. You need wingers with the pedigree of Rory Delap to compete in this league.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 21, 2011 13:13:58 GMT
Well they are pretty keen on the idea. www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/owls_sign_him_up_1_3988346its based on the fact that the lad is producing week in week out superb displays for them. This at a time where our out of form wide men have no competition for their places other than to stick a full back or aged midfielder in. Its easy to pre-judge a situation but should this haPpen people will draw their own conclusions in terms of the future for young players at our club under the present regime. It will be worth watching how this one pans out. Perhaps St peter will step in again as he did when certain parts of the management were more than happy to accept a bid for Shotton. This is pretty old 'news' I'm afraid. Wednesday have been more than keen all season to take him off our hands. As we know 'wanting' and 'getting' are two completely different things and I believe that no one in the Stoke management team have ever thought for a second about letting Ben Marshall slip through our fingers.
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Post by Paddypotter on Nov 21, 2011 13:31:33 GMT
Is it only Stoke youngsters that develope late? If so, what's wrong with our system? I think you'll find most prem teams have at least one player less than 21 years old that makes first team appearances. If our present midfield is considered prem quality, then this lad hasn't much to live up to, in fact I'd give him a chance if he could manage to tie his boot laces.
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Post by exiledstokie on Nov 21, 2011 13:39:40 GMT
Is it only Stoke youngsters that develope late? If so, what's wrong with our system? I think you'll find most prem teams have at least one player less than 21 years old that makes first team appearances. If our present midfield is considered prem quality, then this lad hasn't much to live up to, in fact I'd give him a chance if he could manage to tie his boot laces. Pulis will never give youth players a chance, regardless of how good they are. Hence why he tried to shut down the Academy
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Post by Paddypotter on Nov 21, 2011 13:44:20 GMT
So we're saying TP doesn't play youngsters or foriegners without prem experience and most midfielders he's bought, oh well back to the cage then.
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Post by mark71 on Nov 21, 2011 14:50:16 GMT
It will be an absolutely disgraceful decision if he is sold to sheff Wednesday.
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Post by mozzer68 on Nov 21, 2011 15:03:41 GMT
He may be only 20 and have no premier league experience but you can bet he would put a fuckin shift in, given the chance, unlike Jamane can't be fuckin arsed Pennant.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 21, 2011 15:24:26 GMT
He may be only 20 and have no premier league experience but you can bet he would put a fuckin shift in, given the chance, unlike Jamane can't be fuckin arsed Pennant. what has Pennant done exactly to deserve becoming a boo-boy all of a sudden? we have some weird so-called "supporters"
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Post by mozzer68 on Nov 21, 2011 15:47:38 GMT
Pennant has no interest in playing for the shirt rarely takes defenders on but chooses to either pass back or happy to play for the throw ins, couldn't wait to get off the park at Bolton pretty much knows he is going to get picked cos there is no competition for his place, I know thats not his fault but he has been the same all his career- Give a contract and he turns into a different player. I don't think it's loss of form i really think he doesn't give a toss
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Post by steventweed on Nov 21, 2011 15:51:17 GMT
It will be worth watching how this one pans out. Perhaps St peter will step in again as he did when certain parts of the management were more than happy to accept a bid for Shotton. Really? So depressing if true.
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Post by tazi on Nov 21, 2011 16:10:59 GMT
No too sure who i trust on this one for his development. Either our own Oatie boys or our own management.....
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Post by ColonelMustard on Nov 21, 2011 16:17:07 GMT
Well they are pretty keen on the idea. www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/owls_sign_him_up_1_3988346its based on the fact that the lad is producing week in week out superb displays for them. This at a time where our out of form wide men have no competition for their places other than to stick a full back or aged midfielder in. Its easy to pre-judge a situation but should this haPpen people will draw their own conclusions in terms of the future for young players at our club under the present regime. It will be worth watching how this one pans out. Perhaps St peter will step in again as he did when certain parts of the management were more than happy to accept a bid for Shotton. How much was the bid?
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Post by steventweed on Nov 21, 2011 16:22:01 GMT
We did block Marshall from playing in the FA Cup, so maybe there is a glimmer of hope.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 21, 2011 16:28:14 GMT
I’d love to have a look at him but as far as I’m aware there is no interest from top Championship clubs in him, which probably tells you how close to being a Premier league footballer he is
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Post by ratters on Nov 21, 2011 16:28:35 GMT
He may be only 20 and have no premier league experience but you can bet he would put a fuckin shift in, given the chance, unlike Jamane can't be fuckin arsed Pennant. what has Pennant done exactly to deserve becoming a boo-boy all of a sudden? we have some weird so-called "supporters" Lazy performances and lazy application, like the namby pamby little flick he did at the ball that should have cost us a 4th goal but helguson was offside. He doesn't put his foot through the ball, its tippy tappy stuff from him all the time, rather than basic passing etc. and his delivery has been woeful of late. Its not just him thats not performing, but he stands out like a sore thumb for a lack of effort and just looking uninterested when on the pitch. No fight in him
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 21, 2011 16:31:25 GMT
what has Pennant done exactly to deserve becoming a boo-boy all of a sudden? we have some weird so-called "supporters" Lazy performances and lazy application, like the namby pamby little flick he did at the ball that should have cost us a 4th goal but helguson was offside. He doesn't put his foot through the ball, its tippy tappy stuff from him all the time, rather than basic passing etc. and his delivery has been woeful of late. Its not just him thats not performing, but he stands out like a sore thumb for a lack of effort and just looking uninterested when on the pitch. No fight in him What utter bollocks. He chases back as much as anyone.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Nov 21, 2011 16:34:04 GMT
Lazy performances and lazy application, like the namby pamby little flick he did at the ball that should have cost us a 4th goal but helguson was offside. He doesn't put his foot through the ball, its tippy tappy stuff from him all the time, rather than basic passing etc. and his delivery has been woeful of late. Its not just him thats not performing, but he stands out like a sore thumb for a lack of effort and just looking uninterested when on the pitch. No fight in him What utter bollocks. He chases back as much as anyone. and i think he puts in good tackles when hes on form...
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Post by Clem Fandango on Nov 21, 2011 17:44:52 GMT
Didn't TP give Gary O'Neil his league debut at 16 when he was at Portsmouth? whats happened to that TP was O'Neils debut that bad that it put him off young players forever??? I do find his mistrust in young players from our own setup extremely worrying they might not be good enough but surely having at least one on the bench each game would help. It must also look awful when we are trying to recruit new youth players.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2011 1:58:16 GMT
With the way JP is playing he should be starting here.
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Nov 22, 2011 2:10:42 GMT
He may be only 20 and have no premier league experience but you can bet he would put a fuckin shift in, given the chance, unlike Jamane can't be fuckin arsed Pennant. I can see no reason why he shouldn't get a chance - except that it's against TP's principles........
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Post by Etain Tur-Mukan on Nov 22, 2011 11:02:02 GMT
They've got bob hope of getting him.
He'll be back with us in January and pushing Matty and JP for a place.
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Post by Pirate on Nov 22, 2011 11:14:59 GMT
Harsh on Pennant to say the least, he has no support & this season is being tracked by up to 3 players at a time? He receives no support from the central midfield players & is forced to try & create openings when receiving the ball on the halfway line or even deeper. TP probably instructs him to play for set-pieces. granted he is not in last seasons form but do not think he has been any worse or less committed than a lot of the other players!
( for Matty Etherington, see above )
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 22, 2011 11:31:35 GMT
he is not in last seasons form but do not think he has been any worse or less committed than a lot of the other players! He hasn't, it's just stuff made up by idiots.
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Post by pez75 on Nov 22, 2011 11:48:42 GMT
he is not in last seasons form but do not think he has been any worse or less committed than a lot of the other players! He hasn't, it's just stuff made up by idiots. Exactly. He was poor against QPR on sat but other than that he has been one of our most consistent players this season. It is not his fault that any manager with a modicum of common sense can see that doubling up on him & Etherington (which is what has been happening in nearly all our home games) will essentially nullify any attacking options we have apart from the big hoof. Someone above suggested he could not wait to get off the pitch against Bolton which is also horseshit as the camera close-ups as he came off made it very clear that he was not a happy bunny.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 22, 2011 12:19:15 GMT
I'm still sticking by my first impression of Pennant. When he came to Stoke I didn't want him here, my mates slated me, but I stood by my decision even when he was scoring last season. He's a one season wonder and I've been proved right as my mates are seeing what I saw at the start of his tenure at Stoke. Now they are slating him and not me. He got his ticket back to prem from la liga and his feet are firmly under the Stoke table as he takes his huge wage for little return. Pulis needs to get some youthful enthusiasm in like Marshall.
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Post by manchesterpotter on Nov 22, 2011 12:27:26 GMT
Wednesday fans up here are fucking raving about him non-stop. I've been told by many people that he's easily ready to have a go in the Premier League - and why not? What's the worst that could happen?
I say give him a go and actually get some fucking youth into the team. After all, I thought we were supposedly looking for "young, British talent."
However, I would not be surprised if we fucking sold him. And knowing how shit we are at commanding fees, then it would be no wonder if he went for 50 quid and a bag of revels.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 22, 2011 12:43:43 GMT
The worst bit is we'll flog him for peanuts and they'll sell him for millions with no sell on clause. Then he'll come back and scored a hat trick against us
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 22, 2011 12:54:10 GMT
I'm clinging to the hope that as TP stopped him from being cup tied that he may have plans for him at Stoke after Jan. Saying that Ben would be an appealing proposition to a champ team especially if he available fo FA cup matches.
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