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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 7:13:15 GMT
Post by kylelightbourne on Sept 22, 2011 7:13:15 GMT
We moan like hell at huth being forced out to right back and now youre calling for upson to be played at left back??
And TP said when he signed that he cant play left back in an interview (and if TP openly says a centre back cant play full back it really is saying something)
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 7:18:22 GMT
Post by wembley4372 on Sept 22, 2011 7:18:22 GMT
Why don't we just play our slowest players at full back, it's not as if united will take advantage and exploit the weakness.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 7:19:41 GMT
Post by playstoke on Sept 22, 2011 7:19:41 GMT
We moan like hell at huth being forced out to right back and now youre calling for upson to be played at left back?? And TP said when he signed that he cant play left back in an interview (and if TP openly says a centre back cant play full back it really is saying something) i'm sure i remember upson playing left back at arsenal or brum but if he did it was certainly when he had a bit more pace, probably not suited to it any longer. our only real left back option other than wilson, and hopefully higgy when he comes back, is shotton - the lad seems to be able to play anywhere so what's the harm in trying him out there if we need to?
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 7:24:13 GMT
Post by jwhpotter on Sept 22, 2011 7:24:13 GMT
my team for saturday would be bego wilko huth shawcross upson pennant whelan delap etherington crouch walters we need a back four who will get in their faces especially how their form is in recent games whilst we still have the two crossers and crouch for the hight needed to even try get a goal past these lot I'd go with that team aswell m8
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 9:28:17 GMT
Post by stokelad84 on Sept 22, 2011 9:28:17 GMT
TP prefers Woodgate and Upson in the middle and not out wide.
I heard an interview the other week saying how he wanted to bring in experience in the center to help out the young Begovic and Shawcross.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 9:54:18 GMT
Post by jimmygscfc on Sept 22, 2011 9:54:18 GMT
Shotton at left back? What sort of option is that? You just know Huth will play right back and Wilson left. Macca.....don't you think Palacios will start or is it just that you don't think he's ready for a full 90 as surely he is going to be first choice sooner rather than later?
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 11:25:53 GMT
Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 22, 2011 11:25:53 GMT
Upson and Shawcross should be our centre back pairing based on this season. Upson looks a class above Huth at the minute.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 11:34:24 GMT
Post by werrington on Sept 22, 2011 11:34:24 GMT
Upson and Shawcross should be our centre back pairing based on this season. Upson looks a class above Huth at the minute. And we are off....I only said in the pub the other night how long it would be before people started knocking Huth
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 11:37:32 GMT
Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 22, 2011 11:37:32 GMT
Upson and Shawcross should be our centre back pairing based on this season. Upson looks a class above Huth at the minute. And we are off....I only said in the pub the other night how long it would be before people started knocking Huth Hold on a second. Upson looks very classy at the moment is playing incredibly well. How can you drop Upson because Huth was great for us last season? Difference for me is Upson's composure. He passes the ball out, reminds me a little of Faye. So what are you suggesting? Play Huth at right back? (Where he is absolutely woeful). Drop Upson? Its alright you making comments but your not giving any solutions yourself.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 11:43:08 GMT
Post by Davef on Sept 22, 2011 11:43:08 GMT
How can you drop Upson because Huth was great for us last season? Well why was Robert Huth taken out of the centre of defence in the first place? I've been very impressed with Upson so far and though Woodgate's had a couple of dodgy games recently, he performed very well against Chelsea and against Split. I'm all for competition for places, and I appreciate that our Europa League commitments mean that we're going to have to chop and change to a certain extent, but the point is that the place was Huth's and he did absolutely nothing to lose it. If his form had dropped in the centre of defence this season or an injury or suspension had given Upson or Woodgate their opportunity then the chance would've been there for them to stake their claim. We're not pissing about with Ryan in any of the full back positions are we?
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 11:44:47 GMT
Post by werrington on Sept 22, 2011 11:44:47 GMT
And we are off....I only said in the pub the other night how long it would be before people started knocking Huth Hold on a second. Upson looks very classy at the moment is playing incredibly well. How can you drop Upson because Huth was great for us last season? Difference for me is Upson's composure. He passes the ball out, reminds me a little of Faye. So what are you suggesting? Play Huth at right back? (Where he is absolutely woeful). Drop Upson? Its alright you making comments but your not giving any solutions yourself. Sorry if you took that personally mate...........Huth has done nothing wrong to justify being played full back......he is only 25 and was our player of the season so it made no sense to move him to full back but the trouble now with some on here is that if Huth does play centre half and make a mistake the certain few will jump on his back in defence of TPs decision to move him?.....I agree Upson played very well but better than Huth?....nah
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 11:46:50 GMT
Post by roby55 on Sept 22, 2011 11:46:50 GMT
Upson has been better than Huth,shawcross and Woodgate at the moment
It does not mean he is better than the other cb's but at the moment he has been incredible and always have motm performance
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 11:48:14 GMT
Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 22, 2011 11:48:14 GMT
Hold on a second. Upson looks very classy at the moment is playing incredibly well. How can you drop Upson because Huth was great for us last season? Difference for me is Upson's composure. He passes the ball out, reminds me a little of Faye. So what are you suggesting? Play Huth at right back? (Where he is absolutely woeful). Drop Upson? Its alright you making comments but your not giving any solutions yourself. Sorry if you took that personally mate...........Huth has done nothing wrong to justify being played full back......he is only 25 and was our player of the season so it made no sense to move him to full back but the trouble now with some on here is that if Huth does play centre half and make a mistake the certain few will jump on his back in defence of TPs decision to move him?.....I agree Upson played very well but better than Huth?....nah No worries. But Huth is 27. To be honest i've got no problem with Huth and Shawcross in the centre as long as he is not at full back. Upson i'd say certainly looked more composed than Huth against Spurs, but in fairness he hasnt been given much chance in the centre this season. But then can TP drop Upson after his recent performances? (im not sure we've conceded with him on the park).
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 11:51:54 GMT
Post by werrington on Sept 22, 2011 11:51:54 GMT
Sorry if you took that personally mate...........Huth has done nothing wrong to justify being played full back......he is only 25 and was our player of the season so it made no sense to move him to full back but the trouble now with some on here is that if Huth does play centre half and make a mistake the certain few will jump on his back in defence of TPs decision to move him?.....I agree Upson played very well but better than Huth?....nah No worries. But Huth is 27. To be honest i've got no problem with Huth and Shawcross in the centre as long as he is not at full back. Upson i'd say certainly looked more composed than Huth against Spurs, but in fairness he hasnt been given much chance in the centre this season. But then can TP drop Upson after his recent performances? (im not sure we've conceded with him on the park). Huth will be gone in January and it could all be avoided.....makes no sense to trade him out for two 33 somethings no matter how well they are playing?....sad but i reckon it will be true
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 11:59:57 GMT
Post by stokeramblers on Sept 22, 2011 11:59:57 GMT
No worries. But Huth is 27. To be honest i've got no problem with Huth and Shawcross in the centre as long as he is not at full back. Upson i'd say certainly looked more composed than Huth against Spurs, but in fairness he hasnt been given much chance in the centre this season. But then can TP drop Upson after his recent performances? (im not sure we've conceded with him on the park). Huth will be gone in January and it could all be avoided.....makes no sense to trade him out for two 33 somethings no matter how well they are playing?....sad but i reckon it will be true Where would Huth go? Redknapp has a hard on for Cahill and will probably get him as nobody else wants him now. Liverpool have signed Coates. Chelsea...don't need. United...not good enough. I honestly can't see him leaving. That said I think he should be back in the middle. Huth, Shawcross, Begovic etc. are the foundations that the club can be built on. Upson and Woodgate havent got many seasons left in them though (as good as they are)
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 13:36:01 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2011 13:36:01 GMT
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 13:53:17 GMT
Post by barndoorbanjo on Sept 22, 2011 13:53:17 GMT
Upson has been magnificent for us and doesn't deserve to be axed. My CB pairing on Saturday would be Upson & Shawcross.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 13:58:10 GMT
Post by jnb14 on Sept 22, 2011 13:58:10 GMT
Slightly off message, but does anyone else reckon that Upson looks like Will Young? Or does that say something about me?
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 14:06:10 GMT
Post by foxysgloves on Sept 22, 2011 14:06:10 GMT
And we are off....I only said in the pub the other night how long it would be before people started knocking Huth Hold on a second. Upson looks very classy at the moment is playing incredibly well. How can you drop Upson because Huth was great for us last season? Difference for me is Upson's composure. He passes the ball out, reminds me a little of Faye. So what are you suggesting? Play Huth at right back? (Where he is absolutely woeful). Drop Upson? Its alright you making comments but your not giving any solutions yourself. But Huth isn't woeful at right back. Certainly not his best position but how can you say he is woeful when he has been part of a very miserly back four.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 14:15:19 GMT
Post by tazi on Sept 22, 2011 14:15:19 GMT
Pulis doesn't play Ryan at fullback because he wants to see how other central defensive partnerships work, and why?, it's because Huth will be leaving.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 14:19:03 GMT
Post by foxysgloves on Sept 22, 2011 14:19:03 GMT
Pulis doesn't play Ryan at fullback because he wants to see how other central defensive partnerships work, and why?, it's because Huth will be leaving. Is this something you know or are guessing???
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 14:29:34 GMT
Post by sihanouk on Sept 22, 2011 14:29:34 GMT
Pretty much agree above. Upson been pretty dire for a couple of years at least but has done so well for us. Been our best player for me so far this season.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 15:25:29 GMT
Post by Mr Wheeze on Sept 22, 2011 15:25:29 GMT
I bloody love Matty Upson! Like most i didnt think he'd be a good signing for us but hes been superb, so fair play to him and if you are reading this Mr Upson please accept my grovelling apologies for doubting you
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 17:06:44 GMT
Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 22, 2011 17:06:44 GMT
Pulis doesn't play Ryan at fullback because he wants to see how other central defensive partnerships work, and why?, it's because Huth will be leaving. I'd say the main reason that TP doesn't play Shawcross at full back is that, when he was tried there, he looked much more shaky than Huth does. I'm not sure who I would play at full back against Man Utd but against Besiktas I wouldn't mind a back four of: Wilko, Huth, Shawcross, Upson. I'm not sure if Upson has the pace to play at left back against a speedy winger but I'd like to see the back four above given a run out.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 17:57:54 GMT
Post by howedy on Sept 22, 2011 17:57:54 GMT
Don't know why people are slating woody, give him a bloody chance, he's played well and been unlucky :s
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 19:19:53 GMT
Post by takeshikovacs on Sept 22, 2011 19:19:53 GMT
It's nice to have this 'problem' in having 4 quality centre backs in Huth, Shawcross, Upson and Woodgate. All of them capable of doing a job in their best positions. Rotation will be needed due to the large number of games to be played now we're in Europe and progressing in Cups further than we used to.
It just means we seriously need to address the issue of full backs and get in at least one quality specialist full back (preferably two) during the January window.
TP can then hopefully give Wilson a chance in central midfield alongside Palacios, which might end up being our best partnership. Not that I'm overly convinced about Wilson's ability, he looks a bit ponderous to me, but he deserves a chance.
Great to be in a situation where we can mix and match quality centre backs, and have decent cover for injuries etc.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 19:32:13 GMT
Post by numpty40 on Sept 22, 2011 19:32:13 GMT
I think Wilson is doing well at full back and is improving the more he plays there. He can knock a decent ball with his left foot and has the advantage that when he overlaps he can cut back on his right foot and knock a half decent cross in. He could turn out to be a very decent full back.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 19:36:42 GMT
Post by 2733517 on Sept 22, 2011 19:36:42 GMT
I think that at the moment that wether he is playing right back or centre half huthy has got a massive sulk on, and him and tp have got to have a little chat ,dont forget you are only as good as your last game and huths last good game was ???
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 19:46:44 GMT
Post by mamasbitch on Sept 22, 2011 19:46:44 GMT
If you put Palacios left back on fifa he goes up to 80 rating.
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UPSON
Sept 22, 2011 20:45:21 GMT
Post by wickerman on Sept 22, 2011 20:45:21 GMT
I think that at the moment that wether he is playing right back or centre half huthy has got a massive sulk on, and him and tp have got to have a little chat ,dont forget you are only as good as your last game and huths last good game was ??? He has a massive sulk on ?....only good as your last game ? Seriously ?
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