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Post by xxstokiestanxx on Aug 5, 2011 17:49:50 GMT
This is why I have no interest whether England win or lose anymore. Will that ugly Eyetie please Fu@k off and give us our team back, useless prick!!!! this
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Post by wickerman on Aug 5, 2011 18:46:57 GMT
Unbelievable! Really angered me this has. It wasnt as if he was mind blowingly immense in the under 21's this summer either. Cant stand our England setup! Absolutely ...that pairing maybe the future but Ryan really does deserve a run in the squad at least .I would have been interested to see if he made the squad if still at Blackburn?? Still if nothing else it will piss Ferguson off
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Post by senojbor on Aug 5, 2011 18:52:20 GMT
Phil Jones a good player don't get me wrong but for him to get called up now before he's even played a professional game for United is a disgrace! How does the likes of Upson and Dawson even get considered when shawcross has been playing the way he has over the past 3 seasons. Bar Ferdinand (who is also on the decline), I don't see an English central defender better than Ryan (Terry is past it) Rubbish! Although Ryan should be getting in the squad ahead of Phil Jones. Cahill, Jagielka, Dawson, Terry and Ferdinand are all far better defenders than Shawcross is. As Scotty says, Terry and Ferdinand will be well into their 30's by the time the next world cup comes along. (If we qualify which isn't guaranteed) I personally think Shawcross is better than the others you mention. But anyway, the point is why overlook Ryan and pick Jones? Jones won't even get the nod in front of Vidic or Ferdinand so basically Capello prefers a Utd reserve than our captain. The sooner Capello goes the better!
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Post by oldgit57 on Aug 5, 2011 19:04:00 GMT
Agree with the sentiment about Ryan, most certainly should have had his chance by now! Think we can blame the media tosspots for that tbh. As for Jones, well its just always been this way hasn't it. Ok that doesn't make it fair but thats the way it is, there are unfashionable teams ( us ) and fashionable teams ( almost everyone else ) and guess which players get international recognition!
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Post by watcher on Aug 5, 2011 19:11:58 GMT
Anyone remember Peter Beagrie getting called upto the England B squad(i think it was) only a day or so after his transfer to everton?
Its complete bullshit.If ryan signed for arsenal he would be an england regular. simples.
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Post by onionman on Aug 5, 2011 19:32:24 GMT
Anyone remember Peter Beagrie getting called upto the England B squad(i think it was) only a day or so after his transfer to everton? Its complete bullshit.If ryan signed for arsenal he would be an england regular. simples. That's right, and that was Bobby Robson who was one of England's more sensible managers. It borders on neglect that an England manager, with incredible scouting resources at his disposal, doesn't judge players for himself and picks them simply because they've been validated by Alex Ferguson.
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 5, 2011 20:20:43 GMT
Good fucking thread. England can fuck off for me. Certainly whilst that daft cabbage head is running the show
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