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Post by mcfcbob on Apr 18, 2011 17:41:37 GMT
City have gone 35 years without a trophy, and despite being in the Premier League since 2002 we have been playing terrible football and we were going nowhere. Yet we still had crowds of almost 48,000 during our worst season in the last ten years.
You think City fans don't know what it's like to be crap? Oh we really, really do.
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Post by steventweed on Apr 18, 2011 17:52:25 GMT
City have gone 35 years without a trophy, and despite being in the Premier League since 2002 we have been playing terrible football and we were going nowhere. Yet we still had crowds of almost 48,000 during our worst season in the last ten years. You think City fans don't know what it's like to be crap? Oh we really, really do. Surely the very fact you've been in the Premiership that long isn't really "terrible" as such? I know you've been down to the 3rd tier, but you back in the prem within 2 seasons, while Stoke had two spells at that level in the 90s, one 3 year, another 5 years! Sustained crapness is a bit of an odd thing to measure really. Either way, it's a long long way from that horrible final day of 97/98 for the both of us.
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Post by steventweed on Apr 18, 2011 17:56:04 GMT
But just to add to that, when I lived and worked in Manchester last year, some City fans really got my goat. My boss fella thought it was a "farce" that a club like Fulham could be in Europa final ("Who next? Sunderland!?!?") and hadn't even heard of the likes of Richard Edghill and Gerard Wiekens when I mentioned them, whilst proudly flashing about his "Mancini Scarf" and complaining about the likes of Pulis dressing with no decorum on the sideline. It'd be harsh to stereotype all of your fans with the nu-money-ignorant twatcandle brush though.
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Post by mcfcbob on Apr 18, 2011 17:58:20 GMT
City have gone 35 years without a trophy, and despite being in the Premier League since 2002 we have been playing terrible football and we were going nowhere. Yet we still had crowds of almost 48,000 during our worst season in the last ten years. You think City fans don't know what it's like to be crap? Oh we really, really do. Surely the very fact you've been in the Premiership that long isn't really "terrible" as such? I know you've been down to the 3rd tier, but you back in the prem within 2 seasons, while Stoke had two spells at that level in the 90s, one 3 year, another 5 years! Sustained crapness is a bit of an odd thing to measure really. Either way, it's a long long way from that horrible final day of 97/98 for the both of us. That's true. But I don't remember that game. I was only 4 years old when that game took place. But, like 'Damocles' said on the City forum, it's amazing what a cup final does to supporters. I can see we're not exactly your favourite team by reading this thread, and some of the things said in here can be proven wrong if they listen to City fans and not the major media institutions, that did the same thing seven years ago, when Abramovich took over at Chelsea - how they were 'ruining football' when they weren't really.
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Post by goodjobson on Apr 18, 2011 17:59:03 GMT
I find myself rooting for United in the Manchester Derby. I have never known a group of supporters get so big headed in such a short space of time. They talk about every other club as minnows except for those they would like to compete with.
United are established as a top club, these aren't and yet their fans are more arrogant than United fans ever were.
I have never witnessed such deluded arrogance.
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Post by boscfc on Apr 18, 2011 17:59:43 GMT
City have gone 35 years without a trophy, and despite being in the Premier League since 2002 we have been playing terrible football and we were going nowhere. Yet we still had crowds of almost 48,000 during our worst season in the last ten years. You think City fans don't know what it's like to be crap? Oh we really, really do. Interesting that you come on here boring the piss out of everyone with your attendence figures .. and then go running back to the bluemoon board saying Stoke "fucking hate us" when you fail to get a necessary rise.
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Post by wuzza on Apr 18, 2011 18:09:23 GMT
They are and always have been as arrogant as their neighbours - even when they were shite.
The 'wonderful local supporters' stuff is utter tripe.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 18, 2011 18:17:58 GMT
City have gone 35 years without a trophy, and despite being in the Premier League since 2002 we have been playing terrible football and we were going nowhere. Yet we still had crowds of almost 48,000 during our worst season in the last ten years. You think City fans don't know what it's like to be crap? Oh we really, really do. I don't dispute you've had dark days at Citeh but they have been interspersed with periods back in the top flight. Our club was in a long, terminal decline that many established top flight clubs will never suffer but happily we're now well back on the road to recovery. Fortunately for you Citeh's days in the third tier were fairly short. We endured two spells kicking around in a division we never really want to get back to. Nobody this end will (successfully) argue that your club isn't bigger than ours but we are a good club that is now well run and is on the up. Both our clubs have had similar bad press (for different reasons) but it does make you stronger in the end. The cup final will be a great day, you with all your resources will quite rightly think you can win whereas (and no disrespect) your team doesn't fill us with the same fear that your city rivals do (as our record against them illustrates.) We're happy, we are in our first F.A. Cup Final and we have a chance of winning. Things are great for Stoke City and a few keyboard warriors aren't about to change that fact.
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Post by emery1985 on Apr 18, 2011 18:18:58 GMT
erm... no
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Post by steventweed on Apr 18, 2011 18:26:25 GMT
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Post by mcfcbob on Apr 18, 2011 18:27:30 GMT
They are and always have been as arrogant as their neighbours - even when they were shite. The 'wonderful local supporters' stuff is utter tripe. Evidence of this arrogance? In fact, be more specific. Give me evidence before the takeover.
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Post by emery1985 on Apr 18, 2011 18:29:51 GMT
Also this is the best post of the lot : doesn't their owner own bet365? so they basically have money that they take from people by gambling so basically allowing people to drive themselves to financial ruin and not giving a fuck about them, just taking the profits and damaging people's lives. our owner invests in various companies which make money and create jobs for people across the world, is redeveloping a deprived part of Manchester whilst investing in natural and renewable energies to provide our future's. So one man is preying on vulnerable people, the other securing the future's of millions of people that is pure genius! ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 18:32:33 GMT
Decades in the shadows of their infinitely more successful neighbours, but it appears that when the sun does shine on them it just turns out they are collectively a bunch of loathing, self obsessed, self pity filled wankstains who have become everything that they once hated. They say about how we have copied them with everything, would this be the one song ponies whose celebration comes freshly stolen from a Lech Poznan? So, by that, they wish they were Lech Poznan. Over £1BN spent on them and this is their first sniff of success, with an absolutely astronomic wage bill. If it wasn't for the bottomless oil pit that they have for now, there's no chance that they could have afforded and attracted the likes of tevez, da silva, milner, barry, viera, given etc, and they'd be scrapping about playing however they needed to stay in the league each season. But now that doesnt matter, because they've been able to buy in such players who should be turning over many teams in the league and they can now play self professed beautiful football. What about when they were taken over too... 'nobody deserves this more than us', 'we've suffered more than anybody else has'...what a bunch of self pitying arsewipes. What about the likes of Rochdale? Coz they've been mega successful havent they and they don't deserve a shot of success. They go on about their crows in league 2. well, didn't our crowds stay pretty similar too?? Greater Manchester, an area with 2.5 million inhabitants...thats a fair bigger target audience to attract attendees compared to 400'000 of stoke. The City of Manchester stadium, built using £110M of taxpayers money and paying £3M a year rent to the council to call it home. A team that not even three years ago, under the control of that Thai fella who seemed like a jolly decent above board fella, lost 8-1 away to Boro, go on about other teams being a disgrace to the premier league and now expect to drub at least half of the teams of the league. Its not exactly like Boro at that time had £1BN of investment. Some of them need to think about exactly where they were 3 years ago and be fuckin honoured and privilaged that they can now see top quality players and gareth barry challenge for the champions league and expect success to come soon. three years ago, we were wondering if we'd blown our big chance of sitting at the top table with the big boys. Man City, no doubt some of those who, when their more successful neighbours spunked £50M on two players were moaning about how its not fair that these teams can just come along and buy who they wanted. Man City, who sit there saying that we're a bunch of inbred thugs, but last year had the 4th highest number of fans arrested in the premier league. Who have Nigel do Jong in midfield most famous for nearly kicking a guys head off in the world cup final! Who go on about fashion and style (not that they were at all responsible for it??) who are stereotyped by long haired scruffy cuntrags which makes Shameless look like a reality tv show. the other fashion tip being wearing a flashers coat and that gay little scarf around his neck. Who haven't won anything major since 1976 yet have the nerve to think that they should be challenging for titles. Who think that peoples growing hatred for them for all of the above reasons is out of jealousy and wanting to be like them...we've heard it all before from the red side of manchester/surrey. It is true, that years of being in the shadows have turned them in to ugly, self pitying loathsome cuntrags, and only now you step in to the spotlight can people see how ugly you are. Congratulations blue mooners, you are now exactly like them vile pricks from old trafford. mind you, your heads are so far up your own arse that you wont be able to see it for yourself. Theres such thing as having a bit of dignity in how you go about things, its a shame you've taken the complete opposite route. I'm not going to make a guess about speaking for everybody else, but I certainly would like to just say... go f ck yourselves
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Post by PolPotter on Apr 18, 2011 18:32:57 GMT
Manchester City are the last club I'd want Stoke City to emulate.
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Post by goodjobson on Apr 18, 2011 18:43:51 GMT
Proudofourboys, absolutely thoroughly and in every way shape and form, correct.
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Post by swampmongrel on Apr 18, 2011 18:46:19 GMT
You think City fans don't know what it's like to be crap? Oh we really, really do. That's true. But I don't remember that game. I was only 4 years old when that game took place. So you're about 17 year olds and all you've known is PL football since you were 8/9 years old. Perhaps we have different ideas of what a 'crap' side is. P.S. Check my 'multiquote'
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Post by mcfcbob on Apr 18, 2011 19:52:56 GMT
Decades in the shadows of their infinitely more successful neighbours, but it appears that when the sun does shine on them it just turns out they are collectively a bunch of loathing, self obsessed, self pity filled wankstains who have become everything that they once hated. They say about how we have copied them with everything, would this be the one song ponies whose celebration comes freshly stolen from a Lech Poznan? So, by that, they wish they were Lech Poznan. Over £1BN spent on them and this is their first sniff of success, with an absolutely astronomic wage bill. If it wasn't for the bottomless oil pit that they have for now, there's no chance that they could have afforded and attracted the likes of tevez, the silva, milner, barry, viera, given etc, and they'd be scrapping about playing however they needed to stay in the league each season. But now that doesnt matter, because they've been able to buy in such players who should be turning over many teams in the league and they can now play self professed beautiful football. What about when they were taken over too... 'nobody deserves this more than us', 'we've suffered more than anybody else has'...what a bunch of self pitying arsewipes. What about the likes of Rochdale? Coz they've been mega successful havent they and they don't deserve a shot of success. They go on about their crows in league 2. well, didn't our crowds stay pretty similar too?? Greater Manchester, an area with 2.5 million inhabitants...thats a fair bigger target audience to attract attendees compared to 400'000 of stoke. The City of Manchester stadium, built using £110M of taxpayers money and paying £3M a year rent to the council to call it home. A team that not even three years ago, under the control of that Thai fella who seemed like a jolly decent above board fella, lost 8-1 away to Boro, go on about other teams being a disgrace to the premier league and now expect to drub at least half of the teams of the league. Its not exactly like Boro at that time had £1BN of investment. Some of them need to think about exactly where they were 3 years ago and be fuckin honoured and privilaged that they can now see top quality players and gareth barry challenge for the champions league and expect success to come soon. three years ago, we were wondering if we'd blown our big chance of sitting at the top table with the big boys. Man City, no doubt some of those who, when their more successful neighbours spunked £50M on two players were moaning about how its not fair that these teams can just come along and buy who they wanted. Man City, who sit there saying that we're a bunch of inbred thugs, but last year had the 4th highest number of fans arrested in the premier league. Who have Nigel do Jong in midfield most famous for nearly kicking a guys head off in the world cup final! Who go on about fashion and style (not that they were at all responsible for it??) who are stereotyped by long haired scruffy cuntrags which makes Shameless look like a reality tv show. the other fashion tip being wearing a flashers coat and that gay little scarf around his neck. Who haven't won anything major since 1976 yet have the nerve to think that they should be challenging for titles. Who think that peoples growing hatred for them for all of the above reasons is out of jealousy and wanting to be like them...we've heard it all before from the red side of manchester/surrey. It is true, that years of being in the shadows have turned them in to ugly, self pitying loathsome cuntrags, and only now you step in to the spotlight can people see how ugly you are. Congratulations blue mooners, you are now exactly like them vile pricks from old trafford. mind you, your heads are so far up your own arse that you wont be able to see it for yourself. Theres such thing as having a bit of dignity in how you go about things, its a shame you've taken the complete opposite route. I'm not going to make a guess about speaking for everybody else, but I certainly would like to just say... go f ck yourselves You see, the sun is shining on us because we’ve beaten the best football team on the planet in an FA Cup Semi-final nobody thought we would win. You’ll be the same if you beat us in May. You say ‘they’ as if every City fan has accused you of copying what we did. It was one point made my one poster in one thread on one forum. We haven’t had over £1bn spent on us. I don’t know where you’re getting that figure from. Unless you’re including wage bills etc. but my guess is as good as yours with that one. And it’s not our first sniff of success. We were 45 minutes from the League Cup final in January 2010. Of course we wouldn’t attract the likes of Tevez without the money. That’s why teams lower down the league don’t attract those players (because they don’t have the money City do). I don’t really see your point with that, or with our ‘self-professed beautiful football.’ The closest we’ve ever got to that is ironically singing ‘Boring Boring City’. Did you watch us play Fulham at Craven Cottage? Jamie Redknapp said that City’s performance was ‘the best first half [he’d] ever seen.’ I don’t remember any City fan saying that we deserved the takeover above anyone else either. We were never in League 2. But we were attracting average attendances of 28,000 in the same league and season that you were attracting 12,000. Working it out through percentages and normalisations of town populations is complete bollocks really, because how many City and Stoke fans do you reckon live outside of the towns and travel greater distances for the odd game? Yes, but the £3m we give per year for rent goes back into Manchester Council and back to the tax payers in the form or eyesores being renovated or public areas being improved. We lost 8-1 away to Boro, we did. But at that point, there was turbulence in the board room and Sven was out of a job. A lot of the players played poorly in protest. How many of the players that played that day are in our starting 11 now? Exactly. You can see what we, the fans, thought of them. Yes, we are honoured. You honestly don’t watch us enough if you think Barry is still what he was, because he is far from that. We do feel privileged, but the Sheikh wants a return on his investment. Once again, another ‘possible’ that you’re having a go at us for. Do you know any City fans that moaned about United spending so much on players? If they did, they won’t be now because they have a better understanding of what it is like to be a team with a large cash-pot. The ‘inbred thugs’ thing is a joke. Why can’t you see that? It’s like you calling us ‘Citeh’ for example. It’s all banter and fun and games. Oh here we go, with that De Jong tackle. I take it you’re forgetting just how your team play football sometimes? And Shawcross’ tackle on Ramsey? The fact that you kick teams around to win points. Don’t give us the De Jong shite. Fashion and style? I think that was the well known City fans like Oasis and nobody else. Frank Gallagher is a ridiculously unfair stereotype of a small section of Manchester. Let’s be honest. And the scarf? He did that at Inter as well. It’s just what he does to keep warm. At least he doesn’t hide his bald head under a hat. We know you’re bald, Tony, we know you’re bald. Then why DO you hate us? If it’s not about our new found wealth that a lot of teams would like, then what is it? I’d rather have a filthy rich sugar daddy instead of a relatively wealthy owner who’ll be able to stump up enough cash to finish mid-table.
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Post by kstand on Apr 18, 2011 20:12:46 GMT
City have gone 35 years without a trophy, and despite being in the Premier League since 2002 we have been playing terrible football and we were going nowhere. Yet we still had crowds of almost 48,000 during our worst season in the last ten years. You think City fans don't know what it's like to be crap? Oh we really, really do. hahahahahha crowds of 48k ? are you fucking kidding me you blue cunt. why dont you tell all of stoke about how man city only got 3007 for a home game mcivta.com/matchref/dec98.html20k against leciester this season ? empty seats galore for home games. never has your song "we're not really here" been so true go back to bluemoon (fantasy land) and make up lies about united fans attacking kids and women oh and also the lie about how a city fans family died on the same day we beat you 2-1 this season to take the attention away manchester is red. and you can publish all your fucking lies and myths but deep down you know it.
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Post by mcfcbob on Apr 18, 2011 20:17:40 GMT
In the 2003/04 season - a season when we finished 16th - we had averages of 46,000+. Well, Leicester in an early cup round when the game is on the TV and there was school the next morning for all of the kids that may have been in the North Stand as part of the new Family Stand scheme. I think that's fairly respectable, to be honest. I didn't see the attacks on City fans. And I have no idea about a City fan dying when you beat us 2-1. When did you beat us 2-1? It was 1-1.
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Post by werrington on Apr 18, 2011 20:26:44 GMT
The deluded wankers couldnt even sell out their allocation of 2800 tickets towards the end of last season when they were challenging for a Champions League place....and we must not forget the feeble away support for the FA cup replay....a distance of less than 40 miles at that.......big club my fucking arse!!....they dont even compare to Everton etc never mind Man Utd. and Liverpool etc
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Post by kstand on Apr 18, 2011 20:27:41 GMT
so thats 1 season ? well done on that 1 season. what about all the half empty away ends this season ? what about the other seasons ? no wonder you lot are nicknamed the liars.
city have blamed low attendences on the kids, school and even church goers on sunday missing games. you were charged a tenner and fiver for kids for cup games and europa cup games. uni students could go for free too. so manchester is still blue yes ? do me a favour.
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Post by Silvio on Apr 18, 2011 20:50:31 GMT
I find myself rooting for United in the Manchester Derby. I have never known a group of supporters get so big headed in such a short space of time. They talk about every other club as minnows except for those they would like to compete with. United are established as a top club, these aren't and yet their fans are more arrogant than United fans ever were. I have never witnessed such deluded arrogance. As someone who lives in Manchester, this has been my general experience. Most of the real Man Yoo fans I come across are bearable (just about) and generally pretty complimentary towards Stoke. In the last couple of years, Citeh fans have turned into arrogant cunters who genuinely think they are now in the same league as Madrid, Barce etc. I hope we do them in the final, they miss out on the Champs League and the sheikhs fuck off back to whence they came leaving the nouveau riche tossers up shit creek.
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Post by mcfcbob on Apr 18, 2011 20:53:23 GMT
so thats 1 season ? well done on that 1 season. what about all the half empty away ends this season ? what about the other seasons ? no wonder you lot are nicknamed the liars. city have blamed low attendences on the kids, school and even church goers on sunday missing games. you were charged a tenner and fiver for kids for cup games and europa cup games. uni students could go for free too. so manchester is still blue yes ? do me a favour. No, we were charged nearly £30. Believe me, my mum paid for them.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 18, 2011 21:23:04 GMT
so thats 1 season ? well done on that 1 season. what about all the half empty away ends this season ? what about the other seasons ? no wonder you lot are nicknamed the liars. city have blamed low attendences on the kids, school and even church goers on sunday missing games. you were charged a tenner and fiver for kids for cup games and europa cup games. uni students could go for free too. so manchester is still blue yes ? do me a favour. No, we were charged nearly £30. Believe me, my mum paid for them. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by march4 on Apr 18, 2011 21:40:43 GMT
Stoke City will win the FA Cup this season.
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Post by granthampotter on Apr 18, 2011 21:52:13 GMT
all your fans can do on blue moon is ave ago at stoke this club of ours has performed miracles and not ad the money u lot have had eg1 robinio total waste of money eg 2 if u domt win the cup mancini out thats how loyal yer owners are and also to question the great city of ours stoke on trent and are great support u lot are just talking rubbish cos stoke have great support .
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Post by mcfcbob on Apr 18, 2011 22:18:49 GMT
No, we were charged nearly £30. Believe me, my mum paid for them. ;D ;D ;D ;D Well, I am 16 and I'm focussing on my A-Levels instead of having a job and a bank account.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 18, 2011 22:29:18 GMT
I was laughing because your just a lad who thinks he can come onto a Stoke mesageboard and give us a history lesson.
On your way son, believe me when I tell you that no-one on here gives a rats ass.
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Post by johnnypotter on Apr 18, 2011 22:31:48 GMT
The thing that sticks in the throat of Citeh fans, is that they never have and never will be able to intimidate Stoke on or off the pitch.
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Post by wattie on Apr 18, 2011 22:37:56 GMT
Personally i think both of our clubs are on the up . Stoke due to a gradual step by step progression under Pulis and Coates and Man Citys much faster rise to the top due mainly to huge amounts of money.
Despite the majority of fans being decent you are always going to get a few idiots who want to abuse and try and wind up the opposition but in general i believe most of us are just happy to be finally getting some success after years and years of depressing weekends.
Having read both forums recently i dont think either of us should be acting so arrogant, lets leave that to Utd and Arsenal surely? Afterall neither of us have won f all as of yet have we?
Hopefully Stoke will win the FA cup final and City will make it into the Champions league .
GO onnnn Stoke.
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