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Post by jamie75 on Apr 9, 2008 20:19:25 GMT
If and I know its a big if.....
If Hull loose just one game out of the next 5 its back in our hands?
If we win every game which is unlikely but not impossible and they loose just one we are promoted?
I'm probably wrong but thats what it looks like to me.
Keep the faith. Funny how things change.
J
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Post by jezzascfc on Apr 9, 2008 20:24:04 GMT
On current form, just one problem with your fiendishly cunning plan:
"If we win every game"
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 9, 2008 20:25:02 GMT
Don't think you're far off Jamie. We have just got to get that elusive win at the Ricoh on Saturday. If we do, it sets up the Brizzle match and then it's really game on. I think after Brazil's excellent win last night they may well go on and win the title but 2nd spot is wide open still.
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Post by fentonbadger on Apr 9, 2008 20:28:23 GMT
Nice to see someone putting it back in perspective after Mondays and last nights results Jamie, so Karma for you my old mucker. Makes the Brizzle match even more important now, doesn't it?
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Post by You want salad on kebab boss? on Apr 9, 2008 20:28:55 GMT
It hurts me too say but the baggies are nailed on for promotion probably even champions, but like you say JOTW 2nd spot really is there for the taking, I will put my neck on the line and say it will be us or brizzle, I think Hull will fade away !
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 9, 2008 20:29:54 GMT
reckon with Watford getting a slapping tonight it makes our match with Brizzle mega mega uber
if we can get three points at Cov then i think the momentum will be back with us and the Holy grail will be in touching distance.
goal difference could be absolutely crucial
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Post by ianrb1 on Apr 9, 2008 20:47:36 GMT
I'm sure that ten points would be enough but we are just out of form and the Palace loss will have knocked confidence. We just need to consolidate a play-off spot and see where we go from there.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 9, 2008 20:51:57 GMT
consolidate a play-off place..
fook me, the last of the eternal optimists.
tell you what, if we haven't got the ability to secure a play-off spot at this stage there is something seriously wrong.
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Post by stokeny on Apr 9, 2008 20:53:14 GMT
Bristol City v Wolverhampton, West Brom v Watford, Wolverhampton v West Brom, Watford v Crystal Palace, Hull v Crystal Palace, Still to come.
They can't all win
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Post by potters11 on Apr 9, 2008 20:54:03 GMT
All to play for!
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Post by jemma1989 on Apr 9, 2008 20:54:33 GMT
hull's stupid game in hand is looking bad for us.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 9, 2008 20:57:14 GMT
Not if Barnsley play like they have tonight jemma!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2008 20:59:47 GMT
I agree jamie75 but I have had to smite you for typing 'loose' twice instead of lose.
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Post by ianrb1 on Apr 9, 2008 21:05:47 GMT
consolidate a play-off place.. fook me, the last of the eternal optimists. tell you what, if we haven't got the ability to secure a play-off spot at this stage there is something seriously wrong. It's gonna be very tough Archie, Coventry have a great record at home under Coleman and need to win given Barnsley's result tonight. I can't see us getting anything there with current form. The Bristol game will be tight and a draw is the prediction, whilst the Colchester game is their last at Layer Road and they will be looking to sign off with a win. Last up is Leicester and they may need a result, even if they don't Holloway will do his best to stop TP, so just 2 points from the remaining games is a strong possibility. I'm not sure 71 would be enough.
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 9, 2008 21:08:28 GMT
As someone whose glass is not only always half empty, but some fucker's gone and pissed in it, even I can't see Hull winning all five of their remaining games.
I reckon they'll get ten points maximum, and if someone offered me three wins and a draw out of our last four games, I'd probably take it, as long as we beat Bristol.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 9, 2008 21:09:59 GMT
If Hull get the points out of :
QPR H Barnsley A Sheff U A Palace H Ipswich A
they'll deserve to go up.
That's tricky.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 9, 2008 21:12:57 GMT
Agreed Grapey, but I think it's a shoe in that they'll beat QPR on Saturday so we absolutley must win at the Ricoh.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 9, 2008 21:15:28 GMT
consolidate a play-off place.. fook me, the last of the eternal optimists. tell you what, if we haven't got the ability to secure a play-off spot at this stage there is something seriously wrong. It's gonna be very tough Archie, Coventry have a great record at home under Coleman and need to win given Barnsley's result tonight. I can't see us getting anything there with current form. The Bristol game will be tight and a draw is the prediction, whilst the Colchester game is their last at Layer Road and they will be looking to sign off with a win. Last up is Leicester and they may need a result, even if they don't Holloway will do his best to stop TP, so just 2 points from the remaining games is a strong possibility. I'm not sure 71 would be enough. Ian, you can make a case for EVERY game in this leage being tricky. I'd take our run-in over Hull's any day of the week. And shouldn't teams be fearing us, as title pretenders with all our millions of pounds worth of investment and soaring wage bill which must dwarf the overwhelming majority of this league? Agreed, Jamo. You'd think that'd be Hull's easiest game left, but if QPR turn up in the right mood, who knows?
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 9, 2008 21:22:24 GMT
Ian would talk up the opposition if we were playing Merryfields School reserve team.
We ARE now among the bigger boys in the championship, and whilst we may not be the ex-prem hard nuts that grab everybody else's dinner money, we are certainly in the group that give nasty chinese burns and should be feared by the smaller kids.
They'll all be tough games, but we shouldn't be werriting about the likes of Colchester in our position...we've got to wade in there, slap them about and bring home three points, not be dithering about like fannys and thinking that sneaking a draw is a good result.
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Post by CrazyPotter on Apr 9, 2008 21:23:31 GMT
Lets throw the fooking kitchen sink at Cov and get our season back on track!
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 9, 2008 21:29:46 GMT
I like that analogy, Trousers ;D "Oi, you snotty-nosed little piece of s**t. Give me your f*****g dinner money or your head's got an appointment with the bogs" "Do you know who I f*****g am?" " No-one messes with Stoke f*****g City any more"
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Post by Lesalanos on Apr 9, 2008 21:49:33 GMT
Ian,
Tough? We're playing a team already relegated, and two others in the bottom 6 with four games to go.
As one of Pulis' biggest backers if you really tihink that it's likley that we'll get 2 points from now to the end of the season then we've got problems. That would make it 9 points from a possible 39.
That's relegation form, despite having at his disposal Stokes best squad in 25 years.
Nothing less than 3 wins and a draw is acceptable against that opposition. I actually think we'll, acheive it to.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 9, 2008 22:08:47 GMT
Against all odds, I'm all optimistic again.
Didn't think it was possible after Monday night.
We just need to pull out one performance on Saturday to shift the momentum.
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Post by Davef on Apr 9, 2008 22:48:33 GMT
It's gonna be very tough Archie, Coventry have a great record at home under Coleman and need to win given Barnsley's result tonight. I can't see us getting anything there with current form. The Bristol game will be tight and a draw is the prediction, whilst the Colchester game is their last at Layer Road and they will be looking to sign off with a win. Last up is Leicester and they may need a result, even if they don't Holloway will do his best to stop TP, so just 2 points from the remaining games is a strong possibility. I'm not sure 71 would be enough. I think we'll do enough to clinch at least a play off place, but if your scenario panned out Ian, then we would have ended the season probably out of the play offs, with a record of one win in our last twelve matches, having almost certainly spent the most money on our squad in the Championship this season. There would be no defence for that, it would be a failure of the highest order. Pulis would have to go I'm afraid.
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Post by skip on Apr 9, 2008 23:17:06 GMT
"if your scenario panned out Ian, then we would have ended the season probably out of the play offs, with a record of one win in our last twelve matches, having almost certainly spent the most money on our squad in the Championship this season."
put like that, this season could end with joyous scenes for all Stoke fans or, well, the shittest end to the most promising season in donkeys years.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Apr 10, 2008 6:54:24 GMT
Bristol City v Wolverhampton, West Brom v Watford, Wolverhampton v West Brom, Watford v Crystal Palace, Hull v Crystal Palace, Still to come. They can't all win Dull v Palarse Dull will no doubt win this one, Palarse must be knackered after the "best away performance of the season" as described by Warnock. Fucking typical they saved it for us. Fookers!
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 10, 2008 9:26:48 GMT
Palce could really help us out. Their 'goals conceded away' figure is the best in the division by an absolute mile.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Apr 10, 2008 12:16:58 GMT
Amazing piece of rhetoric from Pulis's right hand man!! Ian, don't Stoke City have a say in all this or do we just roll over and let the opposition dictate that it's only them that can decide the outcome of a football match, with no say at all from ourselves.
Or, maybe you are just protecting your hero and softening everyone up just in case the nightmare scenario happens?
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 10, 2008 12:22:59 GMT
We're obviously the divisional punchbags, y-oh-y. Despite spending millions of quid and having an astronomical wage bill. Poor us. We should be grateful to be on the same pitch as the likes of Coventry and Colchester
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Apr 10, 2008 12:33:18 GMT
................. many a true word said in jest my friend!
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