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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2010 1:24:38 GMT
It has been mentioned that we should have an academy thread on here so I think I'll start it. I was just looking on wiki and noticed the squad list for the academy had been updated on there. It is a squad of 22 if it is to believed which I believe is bigger than it's ever been. Here it is; GK Dave Parton DF Zack Foster DF Alexander Hedley DF Craig Sinclair DF Laton Wint DF Nicky Jackson DF Connor Roberts-Nurse DF Andrew Hall DF Travis Gray DF Jordan Galloway MF Cameron Mitchell MF Jack Harrison MF Michael Clarkson MF Lucas Dawson MF Florent Cuvelier MF Jordan Richardson MF Unpha Koroma MF Allen Bossman FW Ryan Brunt FW Tunji Jordan FW Andrew Musungu FW Sam Whitehurst I know bugger all about most of these so maybe some other posters can tell us about them  According to wiki they're all English bar Cuvelier who is Belgian and Bossman (great name) who is Ghanaian. Seeing as the club seem to be taking the academy seriously this season, I think we should at least keep a closer grasp on it. Good luck to all the lads in the forth coming season! |
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Post by Roy Cropper on Aug 23, 2010 1:29:01 GMT
I know fuck all about any of them but Cuvelier, and i've heard good things about Parton.
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Post by prettyricky on Aug 23, 2010 1:36:31 GMT
I know fuck all about any of them but Cuvelier, and i've heard good things about Parton. Ditto, sept I don't know Parton and I've heard Bad things about Connor Roberts-Nurse ant actually seen him play myself but I heard he featured in some poncey game we played pre season and he was shite |
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 23, 2010 2:20:18 GMT
Dave Parton is Mark Wolstanton's lad - hope he makes it! ;D
Cuvelier is supposed to be a real talent, look forward to hearing how he does.
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Post by magwitch on Aug 23, 2010 10:02:54 GMT
I cannot understand why the Stoke website does not give more information on the Academy, especially some data on each player rather than just a list of names. This would create interest and perhaps increase the attendance at Academy games.
Nicky Jackson is a midfield playmaker, or at least he was last season when I saw him play a couple of times, and he shows some promise in this position. If he's now become a defender, he must have changed dramatically in a few months.
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Post by gnosallpotter on Aug 23, 2010 10:08:20 GMT
Magwitch, am i being stupid or is it perhaps that they can't make public information about U18's as they are minors?
I agree though, that a bit more marketing could help increase the image of the academy.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 23, 2010 10:37:26 GMT
Magwitch, am i being stupid or is it perhaps that they can't make public information about U18's as they are minors? I agree though, that a bit more marketing could help increase the image of the academy. I'm sure Stoke could make more info available than they do but they choose not to. After all we got planty of info on teenagers such as Rooney and Walcott when they were under 18. It may be something simple like "we haven't got the manpower to do the research or write the articles" - this is Stoke after all! ;D |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 23, 2010 11:59:19 GMT
Magwitch, am i being stupid or is it perhaps that they can't make public information about U18's as they are minors? I agree though, that a bit more marketing could help increase the image of the academy. Have a look at the majority of official club sites from liverpool to Crewe where you will see photos and penpics in an abundance. Academy games are screened live on MUTV and you get extensive highlight packages on Liverpool and Chelsea TV. On websites you get extensive game highlights, goals, interviews the lot. See for example Sunderland and Aston Villa which you can access via your Premium TV deal. Its not anything to do with being able to, it seems more about the lads running our website logging off the Oatcake finding the time to do something for those interested! ;D |
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Aug 25, 2010 16:00:50 GMT
Any news on the U18's first game v. Southampton last saturday?
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Post by knowingeye on Aug 25, 2010 16:24:35 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2010 16:26:53 GMT
Cheers KE! It would be lovely to see something similar on our site. How hard can it be?  |
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Post by PoisonedDonkey on Aug 25, 2010 16:32:10 GMT
Hopefully they don't end up getting loaned out to lower league clubs and actually get a chance with the first team.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2010 22:05:53 GMT
heard some of um talking on the way to the match last night - arrogant little gobshites the lot
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Post by Big J on Aug 26, 2010 10:53:41 GMT
Unpha Koroma
Tunji Jordan
Andrew Musungu
We do have some strange names ;D
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 26, 2010 11:31:56 GMT
Unpha Koroma Tunji Jordan Andrew Musungu We do have some strange names ;D All three came in from Chelsea as it happens. |
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Post by deadleg on Aug 26, 2010 11:53:07 GMT
Florent Cuvelier isn't an academy player, he was signed on a professional contract.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 26, 2010 12:15:10 GMT
Florent Cuvelier isn't an academy player, he was signed on a professional contract. Academy players can have pro contracts immediately they reach their 17th birthday. In most clubs it is a formality they get one sorted on their birthday. |
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Post by Homzy on Aug 26, 2010 12:26:35 GMT
I know I'm always sticking up for the media team but it's worth pointing out there is just four of them, two of which take most of the workload, compared to other clubs that have teams of 8/9.
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Aug 26, 2010 13:26:33 GMT
Cheers KE! It would be lovely to see something similar on our site. How hard can it be? I'll be something on our official site this season. I should know because I am doing it I'll be going to every game home and away with the U18's plus letting everyone know about other age groups as Steve Martin wants people to see whats going on and get people involved more. Southampton was unlucky in that I had my last Saturday morning in work so couldn't go but contract now sorted and I'll be there from now on |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2010 13:28:03 GMT
How hard can it be though Homzy to write up some inane questions like "what's Your name?" "what position to You play?" etc etc. Print them off, give them to the coach to give to the players to fill in and then type it up. Spend an hour down the training ground taking a pen pic of them. It would take a day at most.
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Post by deadleg on Aug 26, 2010 15:04:47 GMT
Florent Cuvelier isn't an academy player, he was signed on a professional contract. Academy players can have pro contracts immediately they reach their 17th birthday. In most clubs it is a formality they get one sorted on their birthday. Cuvelier might be 17 but he has a pro contract, unlike the rest of them. In theory they could have contract at 16 if Stoke thought they were good enough. |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 26, 2010 15:29:22 GMT
Academy players can have pro contracts immediately they reach their 17th birthday. In most clubs it is a formality they get one sorted on their birthday. Cuvelier might be 17 but he has a pro contract, unlike the rest of them. In theory they could have contract at 16 if Stoke thought they were good enough. It's not a question of if Stoke think they are good enough. It is a question of that is the way things are/have been done at Stoke. That is exactly why Louis Moult wasn't offered a pro contract until April of this year. It is the way the manager likes to operate the academy ultimately. I can see his point to a degree. I can guarentee you that pro contracts cannot be signed until the boys reach 17. Anything before that is a scholarship contract. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2010 15:31:22 GMT
Have we got any reserve games lined up do You know Mark?
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Post by deadleg on Aug 27, 2010 7:41:35 GMT
Cuvelier might be 17 but he has a pro contract, unlike the rest of them. In theory they could have contract at 16 if Stoke thought they were good enough. It's not a question of if Stoke think they are good enough. It is a question of that is the way things are/have been done at Stoke. That is exactly why Louis Moult wasn't offered a pro contract until April of this year. It is the way the manager likes to operate the academy ultimately. I can see his point to a degree. I can guarentee you that pro contracts cannot be signed until the boys reach 17. Anything before that is a scholarship contract. Well they didn't wait for Cuvelier to turn 18 before they offered him a full pro contract so clearly there are excepetions - if they think they're good enough. Dunno why they waited until Moult was 18, suspect it is Stoke policy to wait until they last possible day until they make them an offer or show them the door (thereby saving themselves some money.) Why don't you ask them yourself? |
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Post by offthewall on Aug 27, 2010 7:47:42 GMT
Good to see Brunt on the list, no Hancocks or other Potteries names though
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 27, 2010 7:53:07 GMT
It's not a question of if Stoke think they are good enough. It is a question of that is the way things are/have been done at Stoke. That is exactly why Louis Moult wasn't offered a pro contract until April of this year. It is the way the manager likes to operate the academy ultimately. I can see his point to a degree. I can guarentee you that pro contracts cannot be signed until the boys reach 17. Anything before that is a scholarship contract. Well they didn't wait for Cuvelier to turn 18 before they offered him a full pro contract so clearly there are excepetions - if they think they're good enough. Dunno why they waited until Moult was 18, suspect it is Stoke policy to wait until they last possible day until they make them an offer or show them the door (thereby saving themselves some money.) Why don't you ask them yourself? dedleg - I don't see the point of your question - the one I have underlined. For reasons I won't go into here, Mark W knows more about the operation of the Academy than any other poster on this board. He doesn't need to ask the club about their academy policy because he knows what that policy is and (as he has said above) he can, to an extent, see their point. |
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Post by deadleg on Aug 27, 2010 16:46:55 GMT
Which bit don't you get?
Yes we know Mark W's son is with the Academy (not exactly a secret Lakeland, read this thread) so he could ask them himself why Cuvelier got his contract at 17 while Moult didn't. OK?
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Post by musik on Aug 27, 2010 16:50:26 GMT
If the Academy players advanced to the First team, all things have been so much easier and we could avoid all the transfer rumours.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 27, 2010 16:59:02 GMT
Which bit don't you get? Yes we know Mark W's son is with the Academy (not exactly a secret Lakeland, read this thread) so he could ask them himself why Cuvelier got his contract at 17 while Moult didn't. OK? The bit I don't get is why you suggest Mark W should ask the club. What is the point in him asking a question to which he knows the answer? |
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Aug 27, 2010 17:04:12 GMT
Have you ever thought he might not have been good enough at 17 to deserve a contract but knuckled down, improved remarkebly, matured as a person and now more than deserves one at 18?
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According to wiki they're all English bar Cuvelier who is Belgian and Bossman (great name) who is Ghanaian.
