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Post by Admin on Aug 22, 2010 17:24:50 GMT
No, we try and clamp down on every instance of it. Unfortunately, we don't spot everything and that's why we have the report feature.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2010 17:26:36 GMT
Fair enough but obviously admin didn't read the Mama injury thread into the early hours then
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Post by elystokie on Aug 22, 2010 17:26:40 GMT
Tuncay worshipers, have you not heard TP's interview on BBC Radio. Tuncay did nothing but miss two open goals and TP said it just like I have. Flatters to deceive - Tuncay Sanli. March - it isn't obligatory to start running a player down on the basis the manager clearly has an agenda....again! The change up in pace and movement leading to the creation of chances that had been none existent in open play prior to Tuncays arrival on the pitch cannot be denied. To suggest otherwise it is necessary to wear Tony's 1D glasses or spend games with his jockstrap obscuring their view. Worse still is agreeing with every word the manager farts just for the sake of it. Precisely
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 22, 2010 17:29:17 GMT
The change yesterday came because we had pace and width on both sides once Delap went inside. tunny did well but so did Fuller, Ethers and Walters. Our best front 4 at home is Walters, Fuller,Jones and Etherington with Tuncay as the impact sub. Away it may be sensible to swop Fuller and Tuncay and play Jones further forward tuncay has lots of energy and drive but an odd and unreliable technique which let's him down especially in front of goal. When men are tight at home, Fuller is like a magician, one dummy yesterday in the first half was worth the admission price alone. With Jones we will pose teams real problems and on the break Tuncay running at people could be a real threat with Walters and Etherington breaking Get 2 pacey fullbacks that can defend and an all round CM and we have a top 10 team. We have added Whitehead, Walters, Jones, Huth as a CB and Tuncay to the team from our first season. With either Goalie, Shawcross,Fuller and , we have 9-10 players of the required standard. A few signings and we are in good shape
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Post by stokelad84 on Aug 22, 2010 17:31:53 GMT
And Danny Collins was the Sunderland player of the season... I couldn't give a shit if he won player of the year for the universe, 3 years running. The bloke is a liability. That was my point bayern, juut because a player has won an award for one club, it doesn't mean he will be the same at his new club. It's a clean slate
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Post by Paddypotter on Aug 22, 2010 17:32:30 GMT
March4, Tuncay crap......... Mama Immense, you're either mentaly challanged or just a windup merchant, I think the latter. If Tuncay is crap the manager wanst shooting for buying him, if Tuncay is a good player TP should be praised,,,,,,, then shot for not playing him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 22, 2010 17:36:02 GMT
I couldn't give a shit if he won player of the year for the universe, 3 years running. The bloke is a liability. That was my point bayern, juut because a player has won an award for one club, it doesn't mean he will be the same at his new club. It's a clean slate It is and based on what I've seen on Tuncay for Stoke I think he has been under used and treated pretty badly by the manager.
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Post by rambo61 on Aug 22, 2010 17:37:11 GMT
Tuncay worshipers, have you not heard TP's interview on BBC Radio. Tuncay did nothing but miss two open goals and TP said it just like I have. Flatters to deceive - Tuncay Sanli. March - it isn't obligatory to start running a player down on the basis the manager clearly has an agenda....again! The change up in pace and movement leading to the creation of chances that had been none existent in open play prior to Tuncays arrival on the pitch cannot be denied. To suggest otherwise it is necessary to wear Tony's 1D glasses or spend games with his jockstrap obscuring their view. Worse still is agreeing with every word the manager farts just for the sake of it. Surely,this thread wouldn,t even exist if Tuncay could manage a one out of two score ratio? The truth is he comes on,runs around a lot,creates a bit of excitement, then misses a sitter!!! Was it Bolton last season when he had an open goal, fucked up then we lost?!!! He,s definately a crowd pleaser but only if we win. We dont make enough chances to have the gift of missing two thirds of them!!!
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Post by Paddypotter on Aug 22, 2010 17:49:06 GMT
Rambo, Petty things like that didn't stop TP playing Mama, who missed plenty of sitters and wasn't as you put it, a crowd pleaser.
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Post by KyleLightbulb on Aug 22, 2010 18:01:54 GMT
Rambo, Petty things like that didn't stop TP playing Mama, who missed plenty of sitters and wasn't as you put it, a crowd pleaser. Exactly, I remember Mama falling over his own legs last season in the dying seconds of a game when he was through on the keeper, oddly this doesn't matter though, because of cause 'e worked 'aarrrd
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Post by elystokie on Aug 22, 2010 18:02:16 GMT
March - it isn't obligatory to start running a player down on the basis the manager clearly has an agenda....again! The change up in pace and movement leading to the creation of chances that had been none existent in open play prior to Tuncays arrival on the pitch cannot be denied. To suggest otherwise it is necessary to wear Tony's 1D glasses or spend games with his jockstrap obscuring their view. Worse still is agreeing with every word the manager farts just for the sake of it. Surely,this thread wouldn,t even exist if Tuncay could manage a one out of two score ratio? The truth is he comes on,runs around a lot,creates a bit of excitement, then misses a sitter!!! Was it Bolton last season when he had an open goal, fucked up then we lost?!!! He,s definately a crowd pleaser but only if we win. We dont make enough chances to have the gift of missing two thirds of them!!! Out of interest, what is Mamas goalscoring ratio? Anywhere near 1 in 2 d'you reckon? ;D If Tuncay had a 1 in 2 ratio we couldn't have afforded him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 22, 2010 18:04:00 GMT
Rambo, Petty things like that didn't stop TP playing Mama, who missed plenty of sitters and wasn't as you put it, a crowd pleaser. Exactly, I remember Mama falling over his own legs last season in the dying seconds of a game when he was through on the keeper, oddly this doesn't matter though, because of cause 'e worked 'aarrrd That's because TP is a hypocritical, stubborn old mule.
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Post by alster on Aug 22, 2010 18:04:48 GMT
March - it isn't obligatory to start running a player down on the basis the manager clearly has an agenda....again! The change up in pace and movement leading to the creation of chances that had been none existent in open play prior to Tuncays arrival on the pitch cannot be denied. To suggest otherwise it is necessary to wear Tony's 1D glasses or spend games with his jockstrap obscuring their view. Worse still is agreeing with every word the manager farts just for the sake of it. Surely,this thread wouldn,t even exist if Tuncay could manage a one out of two score ratio? The truth is he comes on,runs around a lot,creates a bit of excitement, then misses a sitter!!! Was it Bolton last season when he had an open goal, fucked up then we lost?!!! He,s definately a crowd pleaser but only if we win. We dont make enough chances to have the gift of missing two thirds of them!!! Truth is the best strikers in the world don't put away one out of two chances. Its not a coincidence that the chances come when creative attacking players are on the pitch instead of the bench, if we have them there often enough we'll score more goals, if we play a more balanced side we'll create many more chances and put a fair percentage of them away. This may lead to conceeding a few more but the points will come and as a bonus the football will be much better to watch. 2nd half yesterday was good to watch even though we ultimately lost because there was a good balance between attacking and defensive players on the pitch for a change, I bet Pulis hated it. I enjoy watching Tuncay I think he's got a good football brain but to be honest I've no real loyalty to any particular players if the balance is right I don't care what there name is, unfortunately more often than not the balance is all wrong far too nagative and defensive with a lack of creativity and guile.
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Post by rambo61 on Aug 22, 2010 18:06:17 GMT
I thought the thread was about Tuncay and not Mamma!!! If anyones interested I think Mammas not good enough either!!
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Post by KyleLightbulb on Aug 22, 2010 18:11:29 GMT
Surely,this thread wouldn,t even exist if Tuncay could manage a one out of two score ratio? The truth is he comes on,runs around a lot,creates a bit of excitement, then misses a sitter!!! Was it Bolton last season when he had an open goal, fucked up then we lost?!!! He,s definately a crowd pleaser but only if we win. We dont make enough chances to have the gift of missing two thirds of them!!! Out of interest, what is Mamas goalscoring ratio? Anywhere near 1 in 2 d'you reckon? ;D If Tuncay had a 1 in 2 ratio we couldn't have afforded him. Mama's career ratio is somewhere between 1 in 9 and 1 in 10 He scores 0.14 goals per game. At stoke this falls to 0.10 goals per game. Or exactly 1 in 10. This is the same if we exclude the goals he scored in the Championship and focus only on his Premier League appearances to goals ratio. Tuncay's goals to games ratio for Stoke City is 0.19 goals per game, or just under 1 in 5 with most of these being substitute appearances (and including his sub on and off at Hull) Now you tell me who's the more effective player for Stoke City.
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Post by stokelad84 on Aug 22, 2010 18:16:21 GMT
Tuncay has only scored 4 goals for Stoke City, not exactly a Stoke City legend is he
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Post by KyleLightbulb on Aug 22, 2010 18:18:01 GMT
Tuncay has only scored 4 goals for Stoke City, not exactly a Stoke City legend is he He scored more than Mama did last season though, double the number in fact, in the same number of appearances.
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Post by stokelad84 on Aug 22, 2010 18:19:48 GMT
He scored more than Fuller too... And Shawcross... And Huth...
Why is it always a Mama vs Tuncay debate?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 22, 2010 18:20:30 GMT
Tuncay has only scored 4 goals for Stoke City, not exactly a Stoke City legend is he So what's your point? It's hardly contributing to the discussion is it? Here's the news, we played infinitely better when he came on and I would like to see more of him. And before you say we still lost, we were already losing before he came on. Should we dump the starting XI while we're at it?
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Post by elystokie on Aug 22, 2010 18:20:41 GMT
Tuncay has only scored 4 goals for Stoke City, not exactly a Stoke City legend is he And the frustrating thing is he has the potential to be a legend, but if Pulis has his way we'll never get to see it materialise, why he refuses to start him is a total mystery to most of us, you, march and a few others excepted of course
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Post by KyleLightbulb on Aug 22, 2010 18:23:12 GMT
He scored more than Fuller too... And Shawcross... And Huth... Why is it always a Mama vs Tuncay debate? Because both players play off of an out and out striker. Since Ricardo seems to be nailed on for this position since Kitson has been frozen out for most of last season it was a question of Tuncay v Mama.
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Post by wisdommaster on Aug 22, 2010 18:29:11 GMT
stokelad84 i think u r clueless.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 22, 2010 18:29:49 GMT
He scored more than Fuller too... And Shawcross... And Huth... Why is it always a Mama vs Tuncay debate? Er it's because weapons like you and march make it so. For the record Tuncay came on yesterday sparked us for 5 minutes, missed a sitter then did the square root of fook all and went missing. Jones and Fuller with Kitson/Tuncay back up will do for me. Other areas of the pitch need looking at NOW to avoid the debacle of yesterdays first half.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 22, 2010 18:34:43 GMT
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Post by starkiller on Aug 22, 2010 18:41:41 GMT
Tony agrees? then he's equally as big an idiot as you March. I saw the bloke, we can't all be wrong and you and TP be right, all on your own Why not ;D Being serious, I just cannot see why the fuss over Tuncay. He achieves nothing, just a lot of fuss over nothing. I try, but I just can't appreciate him. Now Cressers and Mama, they are proper footballers and I was very impressed by Walters' graft and aggression. Take your annoyance out on TP. He chose to sign Tuncay for £6 million. I'm still waiting for you to raise the issue of his judgement on signing Tuncay. Until you address this issue, your comments are without validity.
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Post by icelandpotter on Aug 22, 2010 21:05:19 GMT
Thing about Tuncay I think people should consider is that he's not a striker.
He's being played out of position by Pulis which is not helping him as he's being compared to Mama and Fuller, he's not that kind of player.
Yesterday I think we saw for one of the few times the real Tuncay, which was playing as an attacking midfielder. I agree with the people who thought our game really stepped up a gear when he came on, there was movement and forward thinking with quick passing to feet, it really was some of our best football for months.
Whelan is so uninterested and useless this season so far, it'd be such an easy thing to do to replace him with Tunners just for a try!! He did cost £5M after all. This and the right back situation is a real gripe of mine with Pulis lately.
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Post by stokelad84 on Aug 22, 2010 21:19:49 GMT
I always thought it would be Tuncay + £5m
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Post by Chris1863 on Aug 22, 2010 22:39:39 GMT
the 2nd arf team should play every week.fact
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Post by wisdommaster on Aug 22, 2010 23:44:05 GMT
Tony pulis has ruined his confidence.
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Post by PONTAFCE on Aug 23, 2010 8:55:45 GMT
Tuncay came on and changed the game he was unlucky not to hit th back of the net,mama is wank and as bad as it sound it might be a good thing for us that he does miss the rest of the season.
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