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Post by Davef on Mar 3, 2010 17:36:17 GMT
Clumsy? Reckless? No thought for his opponent? Should he have even been going to clear that ball? You decide...
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Post by serpico on Mar 3, 2010 17:49:20 GMT
“I don’t think Diaby’s tackle was malicious, it was more protective.” - Arsene Wenger "There was a bit of an over reaction with the way it was treated, yes," said Wenger. "If it is a bad, malicious tackle I can understand that it is shown every half an hour, but the way that happened, it can happen every game. "I said after the game if Gallas has injured the player, we are sorry, we will have a look at the tackle and if it is malicious we will come out and make a statement. "We looked at it carefully and we saw that it was just a mistimed tackle. "That is why we didn't see why such a story could flare up and make a national story if the intention of the player was completely right. "I cannot say that all the tackles that we have got in the last two games were completely accidental. "The problem in England is that the sensitivity of one media dictates what the whole country has to think and I raise big question marks over the competence and the objectivity of the guys who make these kind of decisions." Amazing, what a hypocritical tosser. It's ok though, when his players do it it "protective" . The sooner he's goes to spain the better .
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Post by stokebill on Mar 3, 2010 19:03:52 GMT
If you do slide in from behind to take out a player, be prepared for that player to land on your head.
Adebayor - Made in Arsenal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2010 19:11:54 GMT
Youtube must be part of this Anti Arsenal conspiracy the garlic eating surrender monkey keeps harping on about.
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Post by stokebill on Mar 3, 2010 19:32:29 GMT
Youtube must be part of this Anti Arsenal conspiracy the garlic eating surrender monkey keeps harping on about. In all seriousness, I can't imagine that there is a football club with more poor challenges than Arsenal on YouTube. It's just too easy. Thugs.
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 3, 2010 19:46:05 GMT
There's some quite remarkable videos on here. The one with Ronaldo is a pretty terrible dive and bit of play acting, but that assault on the Barcelona player, bloody hell. Anybody got one of the Adebayor attack on Shawcross last year?
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 3, 2010 19:53:02 GMT
And not a Patrick Vieira one in sight. ;D
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Post by Davef on Mar 3, 2010 20:54:50 GMT
There's some quite remarkable videos on here. The one with Ronaldo is a pretty terrible dive and bit of play acting, but that assault on the Barcelona player, bloody hell. Anybody got one of the Adebayor attack on Shawcross last year? The Match of the Day highlights didn't include the Adebayor foul on Ryan. They did include Ryan's foul on Adebayor though.
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Post by stokebill on Mar 5, 2010 7:52:51 GMT
I woke to find this in my inbox. Thought I'd share it.
I blame the parents*
*Wenger
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Fabregas' growing pains risk stunting rare talent
The young Arsenal captain, a shining light in Wenger's team, is developing a tendency to show his darker side, says Sam Wallace
Cesc Fabregas' ability is being undermined by his strange obsession with settling arguments that have little to do with him
At the beginning of his brilliant teenage career it was just great expectations that followed Cesc Fabregas around. Now it is great expectorations. In the space of less than 24 hours, Arsenal's captain has issued two denials that he is the spitting type, but even if you take his version of events at face value it is fair to ask: what exactly was Fabregas's problem on Tuesday night?
After the game, Fabregas issued a hasty response to Phil Brown's allegation that he had spat at the Hull City assistant manager Brian Horton. Come yesterday afternoon he also denied that he could be seen spitting in Michael Ballack's face in footage from a Champions League game against Bayern Munich from March 2005 that is still on YouTube. The question Fabregas was not prepared to answer was why on earth he felt it appropriate to get involved in the row with Hull players and staff in the first place.
Therein lies the problem for "Saint Cesc", the kid from Barcelona who has become a revelation at Arsenal and epitomises Arsène Wenger's evangelical faith in young players. He might be a brilliant, visionary midfielder but his latest scrape demonstrates that he has a dark side, too. Perhaps he believes that his growing stature in the game justifies him running onto the pitch at full-time to settle his own grievances, but it is hardly becoming of a player with ambitions to be among the best in the world.
There seems little doubt that Fabregas was subject to a fairly unpleasant tirade from Horton in the tunnel after the match. He might even have had to endure insults that were beyond the pale. But why was he there in the first place? Having seen off a tough Hull team and come back from one goal behind to win 2-1 in dubious circumstances, Fabregas's Arsenal team-mates seemed largely relieved to find themselves in the FA Cup semi-final against Chelsea. Their non-playing captain, however, was on the pitch in his jeans and hoodie letting rip at Hull staff.
On matchdays the non-playing Arsenal squad members – injured, suspended or dropped – are required to sit in an area known as the "paddock" behind the dugout. Some of them have executive boxes at the Emirates Stadium, but they are liable to be fined if they do not turn up without good reason to support the team. There is nothing in the club rules that says they have to antagonise the opposition.
There were a lot of heated exchanges between the two benches during the match, much of it from Horton on the Hull side because for most of the first half Brown was in the stands. Nevertheless it was not regarded as sufficiently bad for Pat Rice, Wenger's assistant, not to shake hands with Brown at the end of the match. Fabregas, it would appear, decided to take matters further.
He may only be 21 years old, but what is wrong with the Arsenal captain's judgment? He has already had to issue a grovelling apology to Mark Hughes who, when he was Blackburn Rovers manager, was subject to another tiresome dig from Fabregas after a draw in the FA Cup fifth round in February 2007. Fabregas mocked Hughes, a former Barcelona player, by telling him that he had not set up his team to play in the style of that club.
Hughes might have pointed out that while Fabregas, great talent that he is, is a lifelong fan of his hometown club he has never actually played for Barcelona. Instead, Hughes embarrassed Fabregas by making the exchange public. And he has not been the only one. In the manner of a sulky teenager, Fabregas has snapped at Teddy Sheringham, landing a lame punch on him after a game at West Ham United. He has given Harry Redknapp a mouthful at Portsmouth. All of this prompting those in the game to wonder if Fabregas's opinion of himself is rather too high.
It was also Fabregas, then just 17, who allegedly threw the pizza at Sir Alex Ferguson in the famous "Battle of the Buffet" at Old Trafford in 2004. For most Arsenal supporters that ensured him cult status regardless of what he did as a player, but it also demonstrated his propensity to lose his temper in difficult situations.
Fabregas's defenders say that he is simply imbued with the winning mentality and is battling the old guard of English football. Why should someone so talented respect those whose teams cannot aspire to the kind of football he plays? But when he comes onto the pitch after a game in which he has not featured and starts dishing it out to the opposition it is fair to ask whether the ego is running out of control.
Fabregas will no doubt point in indignation at the way in which Horton goaded him, but if the Arsenal captain really believes he is as good as he thinks he is, why does he care what the assistant manager of Hull thinks? Away from the pitch Fabregas can be charming, a great interviewee and a mature thinker about the game for one so young. Now he prefers to restrict his interviews to The Sun – with whom he has a commercial deal – despite Arsenal having one of the best-run press offices in the Premier League.
In his young career Fabregas has, of course, already witnessed one of the most extraordinary egos in football – and we are not talking about William Gallas and his £350,000 chrome-plated Mercedes McLaren car. The ego in question belonged to Thierry Henry, who by the time he departed for Barcelona in 2007 could not bear to be in the wrong about anything. He left behind a group of young footballers who looked like they could not be happier to be liberated from his incessant moaning.
It would be a pity if Fabregas was to become like Henry, who towards the end of his time at Arsenal perceived slights in even the most innocuous questions and carried around a very tedious sense of injustice. What Fabregas brought to the game as a teenager was the joy of playing and thriving despite effectively being a boy in such a competitive, aggressive world. Now he seems to have developed a strange obsession with settling arguments that have nothing to do with him.
Previous? Ballack in line of fire
Tuesday was not the first time Cesc Fabregas has been embroiled in – and denied – a spitting controversy. During a Champions League tie with Bayern Munich in March 2005, the then 17-year-old appeared to spit on Michael Ballack (see video clip, above), earning a booking from the referee.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 8:18:42 GMT
I woke to find this in my inbox. Thought I'd share it. I blame the parents* *Wenger ----- Fabregas' growing pains risk stunting rare talent
The young Arsenal captain, a shining light in Wenger's team, is developing a tendency to show his darker side, says Sam Wallace
Sam Wallace is rapidly becoming my favourite journo. I may have to change my daily paper to the Independant.
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Post by greyman on Mar 5, 2010 9:05:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 9:14:49 GMT
Who has done that? Absolutely fu**ing quality ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Mar 5, 2010 9:25:24 GMT
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Post by stokebill on Mar 5, 2010 9:32:51 GMT
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Post by jen on Mar 5, 2010 10:20:50 GMT
That's brilliant. I love the captions.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 5, 2010 10:43:55 GMT
Love that site. But there is just so much material in Wenger's vile hypocrisy and his loveable team.
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Post by hew on Mar 5, 2010 10:53:08 GMT
Agreed ....Same old Arsenal , always cheating........and playing the bullied victim.. AAAARRRGGHHH I HATE THEM! i hate them more than any team! i think the prem and the pundits have a new grudge match to hype !
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Post by despotter on Mar 5, 2010 10:58:49 GMT
That's brilliant. I love the captions. There's no doubt that every side in the Prem behave like this from time to time, but when you're going to act a prissy and holier-than-thou as Wenger has, and as vile as some of the fans who've been criticising Ryan, the stuff on that site, and on this thread, is just a joy to behold. Now all we need to do is start posting links on every Arsenal message board and youtube video which criticises Ryan. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by greyman on Mar 5, 2010 12:21:58 GMT
It's too easy really isn't it? And these are only the bits I've found or other people have found and had time to put up. All contributions gratefully received
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Post by stokebill on Mar 5, 2010 13:04:02 GMT
It's borderline for inclusion on the website, but funny nevertheless.
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Post by foxyscfc on Mar 5, 2010 18:15:30 GMT
It's borderline for inclusion on the website, but funny nevertheless. Lesson 15 "Always Respect your fellow opposition manager. Whether you win, lose, or draw"
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Post by Davef on Mar 6, 2010 20:00:04 GMT
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Post by mac on Mar 6, 2010 20:21:23 GMT
It's borderline for inclusion on the website, but funny nevertheless. Lesson 15 "Always Respect your fellow opposition manager. Whether you win, lose, or draw" are you talking about Wenger or the other one? Cause, as much as I think Wenger is an irritating, hypocrite bastard, in this case I can understand him. The other coach is making gestures at him, so it's that manager who starts is. Childish reaction of Wenger true, but kinda understandable
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coggy1972
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Mama to get Freedom of the City!
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Post by coggy1972 on Mar 6, 2010 20:55:41 GMT
What amazing talented players they have at ARSEnal. ARSEne must be so proud of them!!!!!!!!! W*****s, the lot of em....I hate them all!
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Post by serpico on Mar 6, 2010 21:43:25 GMT
Amazing, that article is even complete with whining Arsenal fans in the comment section .
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 6, 2010 21:47:31 GMT
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Mar 6, 2010 21:54:42 GMT
I Preferred the Arsenal fans of the mid 90s. The cardboard fans behind the goal at highbury. They didnt moan as much.
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 6, 2010 21:58:14 GMT
I Preferred the Arsenal fans of the mid 90s. The cardboard fans behind the goal at highbury. They didnt moan as much. Somehow, they made more of an atmosphere.
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kick and rush...
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Post by Banega23 on Mar 6, 2010 22:48:11 GMT
“I don’t think Diaby’s tackle was malicious, it was more protective.” - Arsene Wenger "There was a bit of an over reaction with the way it was treated, yes," said Wenger. "If it is a bad, malicious tackle I can understand that it is shown every half an hour, but the way that happened, it can happen every game. "I said after the game if Gallas has injured the player, we are sorry, we will have a look at the tackle and if it is malicious we will come out and make a statement. "We looked at it carefully and we saw that it was just a mistimed tackle. "That is why we didn't see why such a story could flare up and make a national story if the intention of the player was completely right. "I cannot say that all the tackles that we have got in the last two games were completely accidental. "The problem in England is that the sensitivity of one media dictates what the whole country has to think and I raise big question marks over the competence and the objectivity of the guys who make these kind of decisions." That's top drawer buddy. seriously.
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Post by padders01 on Mar 6, 2010 23:03:08 GMT
Loving the thread people
Keep it up
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