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Post by spitthedog on Dec 12, 2009 18:38:59 GMT
Really very, very poor again today
Delap, Whitehead and Diao totally outplayed for most of the game
couldn't get a kick first half, couldn't put 3 passes together
3 defensive midfielders at home is just embarrassing
We improved slightly when Whelan came on
We desperately need some creative input in midfield (Understatement of the Year)
Tuncay was a breathe of fresh air
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Post by EXORCIST on Dec 12, 2009 18:41:53 GMT
Are you blind? Whitehead played well today IMO
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Post by banburypotter on Dec 12, 2009 18:45:06 GMT
and to be honest our midfield has been mostly non existant for the majority of the season so far, and anyone who disagrees with that needs to check the rose tinteds
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Dec 12, 2009 18:45:26 GMT
Agree entirely.
Whitehead looks garbage everytime and Delap had a poor game today.
Id honestly play Amdy Faye ahead of whitehead.
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Post by mattovstoke on Dec 12, 2009 18:53:39 GMT
and to be honest our midfield has been mostly non existant for the majority of the season so far, and anyone who disagrees with that needs to check the rose tinteds agree 100%, need more creativity and flair in the midfield, apart from Ethers who have we got? |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 12, 2009 18:54:49 GMT
I thought Delap and Diao were very poor. But I thought Whitehead had a good game and so did Ethers although he was less good in the first half.
When Liam is fit again my midfield would be:
Lawrence, Whitehead, Whelan, Etherington
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Post by One-Two on Dec 12, 2009 18:57:50 GMT
Agree entirely. Whitehead looks garbage everytime and Delap had a poor game today. Id honestly play Amdy Faye ahead of whitehead. Even though he's put injured ??? what exactly did he do wrong today? passed well, tackled well, good turn and shot early on  |
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Post by miffmister on Dec 12, 2009 18:59:09 GMT
Whitehead "put it about" but to me is no better than well my aunt in an attacking sence. No disrespect to my aunt n that. Diaos best tackle was 15 secs before he was subbed. Dissapointed not to get 3 points but relieved to get 1 at the end.
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Post by will888 on Dec 12, 2009 19:00:16 GMT
Yup two defensive midfielders at home against teams we can beat is no good....if only we could start games with the players and attitude etc that we ended todays game on !
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Post by supacoopa101 on Dec 12, 2009 19:00:39 GMT
Whitehead is a lot more hard workin than Daio in the middle. Its not rocket science really. Swap delap for lawrence and daio for whelan. Now there is a proper midfield.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 12, 2009 19:04:01 GMT
Woody was good - Diao and Delap not. Whelan made little difference. We sooooo need a creative midfielder or Tp to show trust in WHelan from beginning. To be fair, maybe we need a fully fit right winger as the midfield always play better when we have balance BUT we need one defensive (Delap (middle not the bloody right flank), Diao (too inconsistent) and Woody (getting better) and one playmaker, Whelan on his day (jury still out over a season), plus O'Neill???
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Post by daveray26 nealy 27 on Dec 12, 2009 19:27:42 GMT
delap is finished in my opinion, i doubt he would get in any prem team apart from ours
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 12, 2009 19:29:59 GMT
Delap, Whitehead and Diao would not get in any other Premiership team.
I am totally convinced of that.
All 3 are lucky to be playing at this level, very lucky to have such strong defense and goalkeeper behind them
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Post by adri2008 on Dec 12, 2009 20:00:45 GMT
More urgent than central midfielders is some backup/competition for etherington and lawrence imo. I think with diao, delap, whelan and whitehead we have players that can do a job in the middle (when on their game).
The midfield just looks totally unbalanced when we try to shove a cm on to either flank.
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Post by nptnstokie on Dec 12, 2009 20:08:46 GMT
i cant believe we played a deffenceive midfield against a poor team like wigan.
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Post by tawafij70 on Dec 12, 2009 20:24:45 GMT
Midfield surely needs to be
Lawrence Whelan Whitehead/Delap/Diao Ethers
Only 1 of the three 'holding' midfielders who played today should make the starting eleven.
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Post by 811 on Dec 12, 2009 20:32:53 GMT
agreed, it comes to somthing when we think that whitehead offered somthing going forward, it just shows how much we've been starved of midfield creativity over the past few seasons.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Dec 12, 2009 20:33:38 GMT
Really very, very poor again today Delap, Whitehead and Diao totally outplayed for most of the game couldn't get a kick first half, couldn't put 3 passes together 3 defensive midfielders at home is just embarrassing We improved slightly when Whelan came on We desperately need some creative input in midfield (Understatement of the Year) Tuncay was a breathe of fresh air Agree, they were wank. If he persists in playing Delap it has got to be in the middle as the "holding" midfielder. Plus we wont have to wait as long as he trots from one side of the pitch to the other. This long throw palaver is getting on my tits. |
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Post by jonnynico on Dec 12, 2009 21:15:29 GMT
WHAT MIDFIELD
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Post by isoza on Dec 12, 2009 21:26:16 GMT
Thought Whitehead was OK - Diao was the worst of the central pair.
Delap though was desperate and beginning to think he is the new Cresswell - being played out wide when he simply can't do it. Breaking it up in the middle and passing it 5 yards to someone else, fair enough. He offered nothing going forward and the throw-ins caused nothing.
Don't know why Beattie didn't come on for Delap and Tuncay moved to the right - would have got the crowd going mental and we were on top second half. The problems came when Fuller went off as the Wgan defence realised we had no real pace up front and could play 20yards further up the pitch - bringing their only bit of decent pressure in the 2nd half.
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Post by stokemark on Dec 12, 2009 21:26:18 GMT
Delap and Whitehead need to be competing for one central midfield slot
We need Lawrence / cover on the right / left
We need creativity and someone better than Whelan
All in all and other than Ethers, midfield is costing us dearly
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 12, 2009 21:29:19 GMT
The problems came when Fuller went off as the Wgan defence realised we had no real pace up front and could play 20yards further up the pitch - bringing their only bit of decent pressure in the 2nd half. Spot on mate, if Beattie had to come on, then Tuncs should've replaced Rory on the right and Ric should've stayed on the pitch. |
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Post by cousindupree on Dec 12, 2009 21:40:38 GMT
The continued choice of 3 defensive midfield at home is mystifying. I cant think of a decent performance since TP has decided on this being his preferred combination.....its not even working defensively....Diao lost his player for the first goal. The midfield creates nothing going forward and offers no goal threat....it has to be Lawrence/Whelan/Whead or Rory/Ethers
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Post by alster on Dec 13, 2009 0:41:30 GMT
Our midfield has to be the poorest in the prem. I can't think of a worse one. I truly believe this is why our scoring record is so poor, the forwards are OK they just don't get enough help from the rest of the team. I can't really see it changing either unless the cage concept is dropped. I'd like to see a much younger defensive midfielder in the mould of Cattermole (I'd try Arismendi but have not seen enough of him to assess whether he is the answer) giving his centre mid partner more freedom to join the play and link with the forwards (not sure we posess the right player for this role Pulis hates them).
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Post by audlemstokie on Dec 13, 2009 1:02:51 GMT
To me Whitehead offers nothing to the performance of the team. He does not mark up, plays most of his passes backwards and has no vision. In all a very poor signing
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Post by jacka118 on Dec 13, 2009 1:24:07 GMT
Whitehead was alrite imo
Ethers was good
Whelan, wen he came on was good
Tuncay = qualirty
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Post by tuum on Dec 13, 2009 3:27:19 GMT
Etherington had a shocker in the 1st half along with the rest of the midfield. Diao needs to stop giving away unnecessary fouls in our half...absolutely no need for it. He was the worst of a bad bunch yesterday. Delap's distribution was poor. Whitehead had a steady game throughout and Ethers improved 2nd half. Our midfielders over 90mins = 4/10 for me.
I get really frustrated with our overall inability to a) control the ball and b) to complete a simple pass. Professional footballers should be capable of the basics. Frankly, at times we are embarrassing!
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Post by hanibal7 on Dec 13, 2009 4:44:33 GMT
Whatever we say about the midfield,good or bad,the biggest problem is we cant control the frigging ball.We have to be the worst in the whole football league for a lack of control of the ball.Also we are starting to look a team of cloggers,18 fouls for us and 9 for wigan,but i do agree that Wilko should never have been booked for a hard challenge but fair,and Huth would not have ben booked if the linesman had fucking eyes.All in all we got away with it again but we are conceding too many goals from set pieces again,and considering we have a huge back 4 we seem to be static at times.However we look at it,2 goals,2 set pieces again.We had a total of about 15 minutes in the game when we could have scored 2-3 but the other problem is scoring,and we are ther worst in Premiership.Overall a point gained and lets see a 1-0 at villa.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 7:22:17 GMT
I was about to post exactly what spitthedog has written, the midfield yesterday were shocking at best. Please Pulis get rid of Delap, Whitehead and Diao during the transfer window they are not worth their wages.
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Post by Northy on Dec 13, 2009 7:37:46 GMT
really is poor and the reason why we are now looking over our shoulders and not feeling comfortable.
From what I've seen and who we have now our best would be
Arismendi
Lawrence Whelan Etherington
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