21stcenturystokie
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"Hello Harry I'm calling to take Wilson off of your handings"
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Post by 21stcenturystokie on Sept 18, 2011 8:08:53 GMT
Chelsea boss Andre Villas-Boas has revealed his first encounter with his Manchester United counterpart Sir Alex Ferguson was a chat about Stoke outside a gents toilets.Sounds about right the pair would meet there, it was always going to happen. But AVB goes on to say; 'We said hello and spoke about something … Stoke, funnily enough. Stoke were one of the main discussion points of the elite clubs' meeting.' Why would they be discussing us at an Elite Managers meeting? Because we are a threat or because they don't like us, and the way we play? EDIT: From the Metro. www.metro.co.uk/sport/875758-chelsea-boss-andre-villas-boas-in-unusual-first-encounter-with-sir-alex#ixzz1YEQkVxwB
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Post by french toast on Sept 18, 2011 8:14:44 GMT
fergie has had nothing but praise for us (not saying that wont change after we hammer them next week mind ) i think the whole league is scared of us we are progressing at a phenominal rate on and off the pitch, this makes managers take note.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 8:16:30 GMT
You cannot be offside from a throw-in as it stands and they are thinking changing that - clearly mainly because of Stoke, more specifically Rory Delap. When Arsene whinges, it is heard right at the top of the game.
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21stcenturystokie
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"Hello Harry I'm calling to take Wilson off of your handings"
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Post by 21stcenturystokie on Sept 18, 2011 8:18:35 GMT
You cannot be offside from a throw-in as it stands and they are thinking changing that - clearly mainly because of Stoke, more specifically Rory Delap. When Arsene whinges, it is heard right at the top of the game. Really? If that's true could you imagine Fergie unearthing a talent who could sling a ball. There would be bob hope of a rule to stop him. He does usually have good things to say about us, to the media, but behind closed doors who knows what he's saying, he's a sly old fox is Fergie.
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Post by french toast on Sept 18, 2011 8:18:57 GMT
arsene will be whinging from the dole queue soon ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 8:27:24 GMT
You cannot be offside from a throw-in as it stands and they are thinking changing that - clearly mainly because of Stoke, more specifically Rory Delap. When Arsene whinges, it is heard right at the top of the game. Really? If that's true could you imagine Fergie unearthing a talent who could sling a ball. There would be bob hope of a rule to stop him. He does usually have good things to say about us, to the media, but behind closed doors who knows what he's saying, he's a sly old fox is Fergie. Yes elite team managers get together every now and again and if they agree on certain things they use their combined influence to make that happen. As we know, if you have the freakishly brilliant Delap in your team, it can undo years of defence coaching and there is little in the manual to deal with it. Some of Europe's teams are beginning to feel uncomfortable about it now as well. We've clearly caused some ripples. I don't think it matters. By the time they change any rules, Rory will be retired and we will be in the same situation as other teams, with one or two long throwers, but I cannot see anyone ever again being able to throw a ball with such a missile-like trajectory as Rory. We've had the best of the current situation and frightened the best teams in the world, so much so they they are probably going to have to change the rules to deal with us.
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Post by drfootball on Sept 18, 2011 8:35:08 GMT
You cannot be offside from a throw-in as it stands and they are thinking changing that - clearly mainly because of Stoke, more specifically Rory Delap. When Arsene whinges, it is heard right at the top of the game. By the time they`ve changed the rule Rory will have retired!And Wenger will have gone too!
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Sept 18, 2011 8:36:16 GMT
i dont see why Wenger should have a problem with it, none of the 14 goals they have conceded in 5 games came from throw ins
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 8:39:38 GMT
i dont see why Wenger should have a problem with it, none of the 14 goals they have conceded in 5 games came from throw ins Where Wenger gets worked up is in the time it take for Rory to wind up for a throw. I've always thought that was a bit hypocritical when you consider how long the game stops for most dead ball specialists when there is a free kick within shooting distance.
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Post by french toast on Sept 18, 2011 8:52:39 GMT
i dont see why Wenger should have a problem with it, none of the 14 goals they have conceded in 5 games came from throw ins Where Wenger gets worked up is in the time it take for Rory to wind up for a throw. I've always thought that was a bit hypocritical when you consider how long the game stops for most dead ball specialists when there is a free kick within shooting distance. and how much time his players waste by rolling around on the floor and having tantrums
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Post by seddonstandviewer on Sept 18, 2011 8:54:25 GMT
roughly translated: "How can we get rid of the latest 'boil on the arse'?"
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 18, 2011 9:00:22 GMT
'We said hello and spoke about something … Stoke, funnily enough. Stoke were one of the main discussion points of the elite clubs' meeting.'
why the fuck would they be discussing us at such a meeting? Hearing things like this cant help but make me paranoid that everyone is out to get us!!
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 18, 2011 9:01:48 GMT
Stoke are doing something within the rules that we can't. We don't like it. Let's change the rules.
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Post by londonjamie on Sept 18, 2011 9:32:26 GMT
Maybe they were talking about asking Tony to join the Elite Managers Club?
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Post by mistersausage on Sept 18, 2011 10:33:30 GMT
I heard an excerpt from the elite managers meeting.
Wenger - "Eet simply is not right that a player can throw a ball as far as another playur can kick eet, zer foootbol should be played along zer floor no more than 6 feet tippetty tappetty pretty patterns and makes me feel nice inside"
Ferguson -"Shut the fuck up you french ponce there's sod all wrong with supertones football. You hve no frame of reference here. Now fuck off before I give you a glasgwegian kiss"
[Wenger minces toward the exit muttering about life being like a box of chocolates]
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Sept 18, 2011 10:38:15 GMT
Let's just hope no-one falls for all this bollox about us in the media......let's just continue developing and evolving at our own pace, and not get carried away......keep doing what we do best........giving all the visitors to the Brit a welcome they'll never forget ;D
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Post by potterpaul on Sept 18, 2011 10:52:32 GMT
Just maybe we were the talking point due to the new FIFA rules (Club finances) and as we were doing so well in PL and Euro we are looked at as benchmark in this area (outside of the elite clubs that is). I honestly don't think our style or tactics are of any interest as it as been around for a while.
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Post by stevoyork on Sept 18, 2011 10:58:14 GMT
I heard an excerpt from the elite managers meeting. Wenger - "Eet simply is not right that a player can throw a ball as far as another playur can kick eet, zer foootbol should be played along zer floor no more than 6 feet tippetty tappetty pretty patterns and makes me feel nice inside" Ferguson -"Shut the fuck up you french ponce there's sod all wrong with supertones football. You hve no frame of reference here. Now fuck off before I give you a glasgwegian kiss" [Wenger minces toward the exit muttering about life being like a box of chocolates]
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 11:05:01 GMT
Thing is, the way we use the long throw; we don't benefit from the offside rule anyway! There was one instance against Kyiv where they launched it to a player that would otherwise have been offside. Whinger can go fuck himself
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Post by LH_SCFC on Sept 18, 2011 11:19:29 GMT
Changing the rules so that you can be offside from a throw in would only work in our favour. Any throws level with the penalty spot and beyond can just be thrown backwards. Anything further back would see the defence holding a high line and our players can just time their runs through, beating the offside trap. Easy. Thanks for the suggestion Arsene, you buffoon.
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Post by vestanpance on Sept 18, 2011 11:35:15 GMT
To be honest, it would suit us. Giving our lot a run at a header would cause more problems than the current rules.
As for Fergie, he fucking loves us. Thinks we're a proper football club. That's why United always beat us, he never takes any liberties, and tells his team to man up when they come here.
And him and Tone are in cahoots. Look at what the bastards did to Preston last year. Uncle Tone which way his bread is buttered.
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Post by onionman on Sept 18, 2011 12:10:48 GMT
Stoke are doing something within the rules that we can't. We don't like it. Let's change the rules. That's exactly it. I don't care whether you can be offside from a throw-in or not. Rory will be retired by the time a rule like this comes into play. If he's still playing, changing the offside rule won't make any difference to its effectiveness anyway. But it would be a sad day for football if the authorities change the rules to appease cry-baby managers who haven't got the brain power to deal with a very straightforward tactic which is perfectly within the laws of football devised before any of them were even born.
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Post by march4 on Sept 18, 2011 12:20:16 GMT
If Whinger signed a young French version of Rory, he would soon shut his stupid mouth.
Yesterday he was complaining about the rain.
It's about time we had a government in this country who deported the useless cretin for the irreparable damage he is doing to our national game.
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 18, 2011 12:23:22 GMT
If Whinger signed a young French version of Rory, he would soon shut his stupid mouth. Yesterday he was complaining about the rain. It's about time we had a government in this country who deported the useless cretin for the irreparable damage he is doing to our national game. I don't personally think he's doing any damage March. I am yet to speak to a non-Arsenal supporting football fan who doesn't think he has become some sort of charicature of himself. Overwhelming opinion is that he's lost the plot and is nothing more than a fool. 7 or 8 years ago, people listened to him. I think now that people just laugh at him.
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Post by Funky on Sept 18, 2011 12:41:56 GMT
We must be the most talked about team out of the top 4, good or bad its all good for us, let them keep advertising us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 12:49:05 GMT
I heard an excerpt from the elite managers meeting. Wenger - "Eet simply is not right that a player can throw a ball as far as another playur can kick eet, zer foootbol should be played along zer floor no more than 6 feet tippetty tappetty pretty patterns and makes me feel nice inside" Ferguson -"Shut the fuck up you french ponce there's sod all wrong with supertones football. You hve no frame of reference here. Now fuck off before I give you a glasgwegian kiss" [Wenger minces toward the exit muttering about life being like a box of chocolates] I wish it was mate pisser,
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Post by stokerambler on Sept 18, 2011 13:30:52 GMT
Well, the media are talking about us a lot so it's hardly surprising that managers are too. This Fergie Villa-Bois thing comes from the coaches forum where Wenger called for offside from throw ins, Fergie and Villa-B were at that too.
As someone pointed out on another thread, introducing such a rule would not completely nullify what Wenger sees as a 'problem'. Rory's most potent throws come from the 18 yards from the corner flag to level with the edge of the penalty box. These throws are thrown sideways, not forward, so offside would not be an issue.
Such a rule won't get past first base as it is evidently aimed to nullify one team. If Stoke had a goalie who scored regularly from a big kick Wenger would want a rule saying goalies can't score. The guy needs to look at his own team's deficiencies instead of changing the rules to make it easier for his team.
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Post by jamrock on Sept 18, 2011 13:36:01 GMT
but I cannot see anyone ever again being able to throw a ball with such a missile-like trajectory as Rory. Shotton?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 13:40:55 GMT
but I cannot see anyone ever again being able to throw a ball with such a missile-like trajectory as Rory. Shotton? Shotton throws it a long way, but not so flat as Rory and that is what causes a lot of the problems for other teams
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