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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 20, 2011 22:49:18 GMT
You can just tell can't you?
This is just another game for us. Sure, none of us especially like the opposition, but it's just a run of the mill league game. I look out for the games against West Brazil, Wolves and Arsenal when the fixtures come out long before I've even begun thinking about the Manchester United game. They're just not that big a draw, as shown by the fact that it was one of the few games where the home section didn't sell out last season.
There are more Manchester United supporter's accounts on here than even Sunderland supporters. Off the top of my head I can think of redman, busbybabes, Ki, redarmyvet and there are countless others. It doesn't just happen around our matches, they're on here 365 days of the year popping up on any thread where Manchester United are mentioned even tenuously to tell us all that Manchester United invented every single thing in football ever and that we're all obsessed with them. They really don't see the blinding hypocrisy in that statement. Then again, they try to make out that Stoke have stolen all of their songs, conveniently forgetting that they took 'There's only one Steino' and 'Orlygsson running down the wing' and adapted them for Roy Keane and Ryan Giggs respectively. The word 'small time' doesn't even begin to sum them up. They're perhaps the poxiest, pettiest, most clueless supporters in the league. Arsenal's supporters are effeminate football haters, but they don't have the same small time attitude as Manchester United's supporters.
It's the biggest game of the season for the local gloryhunters as well. We all know that gloryhunting is a sign of a lifetime of underachievement and chronic mental weakness. It's the preserve of people who don't give a damn about football, and those who are so disliked among their peers, and who have so little worthy of remark in their life, that they choose to 'follow' a club who they perceive as winners. They think that it gives them something in their life that they can gloat about and impress people with. "Your team are shit, I support a proper team because I'm really good." Some of them actually think that real supporters are impressed by their hollow victory cries. As we all know, the prevalent response to them is one of overriding pity. Back to my point, this is the one time of the year when the small time local gloryhunting sub-human thinks that he'll get one over those nasty Stoke supporters who think they're so much better than him because they go to see their team and don't care that his team win stuff. Beating Stoke at the Britannia Stadium for him means more than winning the treble in 1999. Even more so than the rest of the Manchester United support, he sees it as his cup final.
I'm slightly embarrassed for them if I'm honest. They're just a small time club who are going to enjoy their day in the sun on Saturday. Of course, their supporters won't actually turn up vocally. For all the bravado, when we played them for the first time after promotion they sat on their hands for 90 minutes in complete silence, only stirring when they scored their late winner. Even then, they gave a quick burst of 'Argentina' and shut up again. The year after they outsung us, and last season it was about 50-50. They're not a patch on Hajduk Split, for example. They're not even the best away supporters in the league. I'm not sure they even get into the top four. Lots of bravado, lots of small time mentality, very little actual product.
I reiterate: Manchester United supporters are a small time mob obsessed with Stoke City.
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Post by theloudest on Sept 20, 2011 22:50:28 GMT
TBH I think there all the same person.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 20, 2011 22:59:15 GMT
If they are, doubtless one or more of the iterations will be on this thread soon enough without even reading it. I guarantee the word 'obsessed' is used.
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Post by theloudest on Sept 20, 2011 23:01:19 GMT
His obsession with us is quite disturbing.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 20, 2011 23:08:50 GMT
What do you reckon? Local gloryhunting pondlife, gloryhunting pondlife from somewhere else or an actual Manchester United supporter?
My money is on the first option.
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Post by theloudest on Sept 20, 2011 23:11:48 GMT
Born and bread in Salford.
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 20, 2011 23:17:26 GMT
Why the hell would Man United supporters be "obsessed with Stoke City"?
We're not even in the same planet as them.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Sept 20, 2011 23:17:34 GMT
I appreciate that the post is riddled with pathos, irony and vaguely hinted sarcastic wit, but unfortunately I don't understand a word of it.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 20, 2011 23:19:55 GMT
Why the hell would Man United supporters be "obsessed with Stoke City"? We're not even in the same planet as them. You'd think they wouldn't be, but they are. All the evidence is there to see. Blogs written about our supporters. Countless Manchester United accounts registered to this board. They treat the game against us at The Brit like it's their cup final. Why, I don't know. The local gloryhunters see it as their day in the sun, definitely, but what exactly the obsession that the rest of their supporters have with us is based around I don't know. |
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 20, 2011 23:32:54 GMT
Why the hell would Man United supporters be "obsessed with Stoke City"? We're not even in the same planet as them. You'd think they wouldn't be, but they are. All the evidence is there to see. Blogs written about our supporters. Countless Manchester United accounts registered to this board. They treat the game against us at The Brit like it's their cup final. Why, I don't know. The local gloryhunters see it as their day in the sun, definitely, but what exactly the obsession that the rest of their supporters have with us is based around I don't know. From what I've seen, there's been about 4 articles written about us on their boards in the last twelve months. I'd hardly call them obsessed. Bear in mind you've just written a 600 word article on them, it looks slightly hypocritical to label them as "obsessed". I'm not here to argue, I just don't buy into your argment.  |
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 20, 2011 23:35:30 GMT
You'd think they wouldn't be, but they are. All the evidence is there to see. Blogs written about our supporters. Countless Manchester United accounts registered to this board. They treat the game against us at The Brit like it's their cup final. Why, I don't know. The local gloryhunters see it as their day in the sun, definitely, but what exactly the obsession that the rest of their supporters have with us is based around I don't know. From what I've seen, there's been about 4 articles written about us on their boards in the last twelve months. I'd hardly call them obsessed. Bear in mind you've just written a 600 word article on them, it looks slightly hypocritical to label them as "obsessed". I'm not here to argue, I just don't buy into your argment. I find it peculiar that there are some real frothing at the mouth articles written about our support when we're apparently not even on their radar. I find it more peculiar that there are several supporters of theirs on here who seem to monitor this board 365 days of the year to throw in garbage comments. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2011 8:30:03 GMT
The problem MysticalDescent is that you've written this post to get a response to prove your post...and they haven't bitten. Kind of makes your post a bit silly now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 8:58:14 GMT
Not really though is it. Man Utd have far bigger fish to fry than us. If anything last weekend was their cup final. The only "fans" that go on here that are Man Utd supporters are usually ones that are from stoke. So, glory hunters, actual United season ticket holders will probably just see it as a routine 3 points.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 21, 2011 9:28:00 GMT
You'd think they wouldn't be, but they are. All the evidence is there to see. Blogs written about our supporters. Countless Manchester United accounts registered to this board. They treat the game against us at The Brit like it's their cup final. Why, I don't know. The local gloryhunters see it as their day in the sun, definitely, but what exactly the obsession that the rest of their supporters have with us is based around I don't know. From what I've seen, there's been about 4 articles written about us on their boards in the last twelve months. I'd hardly call them obsessed. Bear in mind you've just written a 600 word article on them, it looks slightly hypocritical to label them as "obsessed". I'm not here to argue, I just don't buy into your argment. In fact, just as a further little thing, you say there are only 4 articles, but how many Stoke articles can you find written about them in the same period? How many Stoke supporters are on their message boards 365 days of the year? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 9:42:12 GMT
You can just tell can't you? This is just another game for us. Sure, none of us especially like the opposition, but it's just a run of the mill league game. I look out for the games against West Brazil, Wolves and Arsenal when the fixtures come out long before I've even begun thinking about the Manchester United game. They're just not that big a draw, as shown by the fact that it was one of the few games where the home section didn't sell out last season. There are more Manchester United supporter's accounts on here than even Sunderland supporters. Off the top of my head I can think of redman, busbybabes, Ki, redarmyvet and there are countless others. It doesn't just happen around our matches, they're on here 365 days of the year popping up on any thread where Manchester United are mentioned even tenuously to tell us all that Manchester United invented every single thing in football ever and that we're all obsessed with them. They really don't see the blinding hypocrisy in that statement. Then again, they try to make out that Stoke have stolen all of their songs, conveniently forgetting that they took 'There's only one Steino' and 'Orlygsson running down the wing' and adapted them for Roy Keane and Ryan Giggs respectively. The word 'small time' doesn't even begin to sum them up. They're perhaps the poxiest, pettiest, most clueless supporters in the league. Arsenal's supporters are effeminate football haters, but they don't have the same small time attitude as Manchester United's supporters. It's the biggest game of the season for the local gloryhunters as well. We all know that gloryhunting is a sign of a lifetime of underachievement and chronic mental weakness. It's the preserve of people who don't give a damn about football, and those who are so disliked among their peers, and who have so little worthy of remark in their life, that they choose to 'follow' a club who they perceive as winners. They think that it gives them something in their life that they can gloat about and impress people with. "Your team are shit, I support a proper team because I'm really good." Some of them actually think that real supporters are impressed by their hollow victory cries. As we all know, the prevalent response to them is one of overriding pity. Back to my point, this is the one time of the year when the small time local gloryhunting sub-human thinks that he'll get one over those nasty Stoke supporters who think they're so much better than him because they go to see their team and don't care that his team win stuff. Beating Stoke at the Britannia Stadium for him means more than winning the treble in 1999. Even more so than the rest of the Manchester United support, he sees it as his cup final. I'm slightly embarrassed for them if I'm honest. They're just a small time club who are going to enjoy their day in the sun on Saturday. Of course, their supporters won't actually turn up vocally. For all the bravado, when we played them for the first time after promotion they sat on their hands for 90 minutes in complete silence, only stirring when they scored their late winner. Even then, they gave a quick burst of 'Argentina' and shut up again. The year after they outsung us, and last season it was about 50-50. They're not a patch on Hajduk Split, for example. They're not even the best away supporters in the league. I'm not sure they even get into the top four. Lots of bravado, lots of small time mentality, very little actual product. I reiterate: Manchester United supporters are a small time mob obsessed with Stoke City. Disagree on the gloryhunting aswell to be honest. I love Stoke because I was bought up to do so. If you haven't had that influence and have your own choice on what's what then anyone would see that the more successful teams play better football. For example if I was ten again and didn't have the love for stoke that I do now, I'd probably have a Messi shirt on as Barca are bloody awesome. |
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Post by devonstokie on Sept 21, 2011 9:55:21 GMT
I agree with you MD, too be fair there is'nt that many Mancs on here probably due to the fact you've got to wait to have your account approved, whilst over on Facebook(Bearpit, Fortress Brit etc) and Youtube anything to do with Stoke is full of Utd idiots slating us, they just want to be us ha
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 21, 2011 9:58:47 GMT
You can just tell can't you? This is just another game for us. Sure, none of us especially like the opposition, but it's just a run of the mill league game. I look out for the games against West Brazil, Wolves and Arsenal when the fixtures come out long before I've even begun thinking about the Manchester United game. They're just not that big a draw, as shown by the fact that it was one of the few games where the home section didn't sell out last season. There are more Manchester United supporter's accounts on here than even Sunderland supporters. Off the top of my head I can think of redman, busbybabes, Ki, redarmyvet and there are countless others. It doesn't just happen around our matches, they're on here 365 days of the year popping up on any thread where Manchester United are mentioned even tenuously to tell us all that Manchester United invented every single thing in football ever and that we're all obsessed with them. They really don't see the blinding hypocrisy in that statement. Then again, they try to make out that Stoke have stolen all of their songs, conveniently forgetting that they took 'There's only one Steino' and 'Orlygsson running down the wing' and adapted them for Roy Keane and Ryan Giggs respectively. The word 'small time' doesn't even begin to sum them up. They're perhaps the poxiest, pettiest, most clueless supporters in the league. Arsenal's supporters are effeminate football haters, but they don't have the same small time attitude as Manchester United's supporters. It's the biggest game of the season for the local gloryhunters as well. We all know that gloryhunting is a sign of a lifetime of underachievement and chronic mental weakness. It's the preserve of people who don't give a damn about football, and those who are so disliked among their peers, and who have so little worthy of remark in their life, that they choose to 'follow' a club who they perceive as winners. They think that it gives them something in their life that they can gloat about and impress people with. "Your team are shit, I support a proper team because I'm really good." Some of them actually think that real supporters are impressed by their hollow victory cries. As we all know, the prevalent response to them is one of overriding pity. Back to my point, this is the one time of the year when the small time local gloryhunting sub-human thinks that he'll get one over those nasty Stoke supporters who think they're so much better than him because they go to see their team and don't care that his team win stuff. Beating Stoke at the Britannia Stadium for him means more than winning the treble in 1999. Even more so than the rest of the Manchester United support, he sees it as his cup final. I'm slightly embarrassed for them if I'm honest. They're just a small time club who are going to enjoy their day in the sun on Saturday. Of course, their supporters won't actually turn up vocally. For all the bravado, when we played them for the first time after promotion they sat on their hands for 90 minutes in complete silence, only stirring when they scored their late winner. Even then, they gave a quick burst of 'Argentina' and shut up again. The year after they outsung us, and last season it was about 50-50. They're not a patch on Hajduk Split, for example. They're not even the best away supporters in the league. I'm not sure they even get into the top four. Lots of bravado, lots of small time mentality, very little actual product. I reiterate: Manchester United supporters are a small time mob obsessed with Stoke City. Disagree on the gloryhunting aswell to be honest. I love Stoke because I was bought up to do so. If you haven't had that influence and have your own choice on what's what then anyone would see that the more successful teams play better football. For example if I was ten again and didn't have the love for stoke that I do now, I'd probably have a Messi shirt on as Barca are bloody awesome. You can't just blame poor parenting, though. I know Stoke supporters who were spawned by gloryhunting no marks. I know Stoke supporters born of people with no interest in football. Back in my day, it was always the same people who were the gloryhunters, the ones I described in my initial post. |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Sept 21, 2011 11:55:33 GMT
A few points:
I detest United. Always have, always will. Written plenty of anti-United stuff including an Oatcake article that drew in letters of disgust in The Sentinel from local gloryhunters who were shown it/had it read to them, but...
Anyone who thinks their away support over the past 2 seasons at Stoke hasn't been probably the best in the league then they're wrong or deaf. That's because their daytrippers can't/won't get tickets and what you will see Saturday is 90% Mancunian/Salfordian lads with a shedload of songs. Anyone thinking on Saturday their end will be full of gloryhunters/non-Mancs is 100mph wrong.
Their home support is scandalous but that's when the daytrippers and gloryhunters can get tickets. And after the ace job the Glazers are doing, getting tickets for United is relatively simple. Indeed, they advertise on national and local radio, so much for their famous waiting list, eh?
I'm meeting a mate and his kid for a beer pre-match. Manc lad who goes everywhere in the world to watch them and has done since a nipper. He's no different than me. Not as good-looking, obv.
I can manage to put stereotypes and generalisations aside and still detest them for the right reasons, why can't others?
I still hate United with a furious, one-eyed passion and I will still be giving as much stick as anyone to Giggs etc. I will still write stuff having a go at them as they are one of the reasons, imho, that football has changed for the worse.
But you'll find that their support detests their daytrippers as much as we do. That's the truth, sorry if it doesn't really register with some on here.
Matches at Old Trafford are a completely different entity to their away matches.
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 21, 2011 12:12:22 GMT
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Post by lordb on Sept 21, 2011 12:28:09 GMT
WOOOOSH
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 21, 2011 12:35:31 GMT
I have noticed United fans have been unusualy quiet this week - Are they slightly concerned that we will end their winning streak on Saturday?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 21, 2011 12:36:43 GMT
MD has a point to be fair because for many local/localish Manure supporters, and I use supporters loosely, the game against Stoke is their biggest of their season.
My real dad is a Manure fan and for him, the two games against Stoke are his biggest events of the season. Not because he will be there, but purely because beating us satisfies every glory hunting bone in his body and gives him the assurance he needs to convince himself that he chose wisely in the team he supports.
Gloryhunters throughout Staffordshire will be the same no doubt.
However, for genuine Manure fans, who travel up and down the country with them, our fixture on Saturday is no more than another game for them. Last nights game against Leeds would have been bigger to those supporters than the game against us is on Saturday.
Like Bunny, I can't stand Manure like the next self respecting football fan, but their away support is and always has been very impressive and to say otherwise does us no favours in our claims that we are not obsessed with them.
Credit where it is due. They have very good away support and usually handle what other teams consider a very difficult fixture quite easily. I still can't stand them and I still hope we give them the beating that they deserve on Saturday.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 21, 2011 14:01:12 GMT
See, they're at it again on another thread: The media are all over this at the moment, so much so, they will be reporting on Stoke fans who sing the Munich chants at the weekend and do aeroplane jestures as is always the case at stoke (Even seen coming from exec boxes). So it might be worthwhile stopping and think about what your actions and songs are going to portray in the media. While we are on the subject of chants, if you sing "we support our local team" then it will be nothing more than laughable given your attendance last night, as the attendance clearly shows, you dont actually support your team. As for glory hunters, how many did you take to the FA Cup semi and final? Same old crap about us being obsessed and Mancheser United being the bestest supporters ever and so on - completely oblivious to his own smal time attitude and obsession with Stoke. |
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Post by rigsby on Sept 21, 2011 14:16:03 GMT
It's not my cup final, that was Saturday May 14th.
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Sept 21, 2011 14:25:31 GMT
A few points: I detest United. Always have, always will. Written plenty of anti-United stuff including an Oatcake article that drew in letters of disgust in The Sentinel from local gloryhunters who were shown it/had it read to them, but... Anyone who thinks their away support over the past 2 seasons at Stoke hasn't been probably the best in the league then they're wrong or deaf. That's because their daytrippers can't/won't get tickets and what you will see Saturday is 90% Mancunian/Salfordian lads with a shedload of songs. Anyone thinking on Saturday their end will be full of gloryhunters/non-Mancs is 100mph wrong. Their home support is scandalous but that's when the daytrippers and gloryhunters can get tickets. And after the ace job the Glazers are doing, getting tickets for United is relatively simple. Indeed, they advertise on national and local radio, so much for their famous waiting list, eh? I'm meeting a mate and his kid for a beer pre-match. Manc lad who goes everywhere in the world to watch them and has done since a nipper. He's no different than me. Not as good-looking, obv. I can manage to put stereotypes and generalisations aside and still detest them for the right reasons, why can't others? I still hate United with a furious, one-eyed passion and I will still be giving as much stick as anyone to Giggs etc. I will still write stuff having a go at them as they are one of the reasons, imho, that football has changed for the worse. But you'll find that their support detests their daytrippers as much as we do. That's the truth, sorry if it doesn't really register with some on here. Matches at Old Trafford are a completely different entity to their away matches. On the way to the Liverpool game, I passed a young dad in Chell, pushing a pram and he was wearing ...a Liverpool shirt. As teh final whistle blew on our 1-0 win over the Scousers, I thought of that young dad and thought Hah! - I hope your offspring grows up and supports a proper (local) team. I sincerely hope I pass a Man U gloryhunter on Saturday and think the same thing. P.S. Looking forward to a clear run down the M6 on Saturday from this neck of the woods. (Think about it folks  ) |
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Post by nott1 on Sept 21, 2011 14:29:36 GMT
I hate their inarticulate buffoon of a manager with a passion. He's treated like a God for doing what many others have done before him e.g Busby, and that is spend a vast income(or borrowings) on good players. A chimp could do the same!
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Post by Zero on Sept 21, 2011 15:17:40 GMT
They're challenging for the title, I think that they have greater concerns than one match against Stoke. The 'cup final' thing might make sense for a club that are unlikely to get a trophy, and compensate by putting greater emphasis on games against specific teams, but to be frank Manchester United are not so far looking like such a club. Their 'cup final' last season was in the Champion's League. In any case, I don't think that one can make such extrapolations from a bunch of people on the web. Even for Stoke, it's pretty clear that generalizing some views held by a few fans on this website could make us look pretty bad, but Manchester United have a far greater number of supporters, making some people on the internet even less representative of the whole.
They just beat Chelsea, for that matter, so I don't think that a match against Stoke is going to be particularly massive to them. This is because, as said, they are going for the title, and Chelsea are title rivals, making that game probably far more important to most supporters than one against Stoke.
How many Stoke supporters are there?
This seems about accurate.
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Post by geriatricoatcake on Sept 21, 2011 15:18:14 GMT
I hate their inarticulate buffoon of a manager with a passion. He's treated like a God for doing what many others have done before him e.g Busby, and that is spend a vast income(or borrowings) on good players. A chimp could do the same! A little harsh Bexhill, you obviously were not around when Utd did not win the league for was it 20 yrs (?),were relegated and generally played second fiddle to Liverpool. Granted they are at a level now which will be easier to maintain but like it or not he will go down as one of the greatest managers. Not my favourite person either but glad he doesnt spit his chewing gum out onto the pitch anymore and sticks it under his seat instead ! |
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Post by musfc on Sept 21, 2011 15:50:13 GMT
I would imagine as the weekend draws nearer, that the media will again turn their attention to David De Gea and the use of the long throw and the freak that is Peter Crouch.
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Sept 21, 2011 15:57:45 GMT
for their supporters (i mean mancs not the tourists) it is going to be like a cup final for them. An atmosphere, proper supporters and no Japs with cameras and bags full of cheap club shop merchandise. Its not every week they get to experience what an afternoon at the match should be like.
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