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Post by ST5-POTTER on Aug 23, 2012 5:33:05 GMT
Wow can't believe some are happy for Ryan to go to let's face it a positional rival of ours and for a measly 9-10 mill.
I think you people are on drugs.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 23, 2012 5:51:41 GMT
I never said i heard anything about rangers? I said if they tried to join the fa wouldnt be able do much to refuse but they didnt? At least get your facts right before you try and question me, jesus What do you mean, "the FA couldn't do much to refuse"? In footballing terms Scotland is a different country so of course the ENGLISH FA can refuse an application from a SCOTTISH side. If they had to accept applications from a Scottish side they would have to accept applications from sides in Northern Ireland, Southern Ireland or even France. You are basing your claim on the fact that there are Welsh sides in the English leagues and Berwick play in Scotland. But there is no rule FORCING the respective FAs to accept them. The respective FAs have a choice and CHOOSE to accept them. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2012 5:51:55 GMT
Wow can't believe some are happy for Ryan to go to let's face it a positional rival of ours and for a measly 9-10 mill. I think you people are on drugs. Think it's just a couple of kids who spend too much time on football manager |
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Post by jeycov on Aug 23, 2012 7:26:29 GMT
Letting Ricardo move on was always going to be on the cards - he wouldn't have got much pitch time here, despite being a massive favorite.
As for Shawcross MOST FANS WOULD BE IN UPROAR IF HE WAS ALLOWED TO LEAVE! not only is he a massive favorite he is also our team captain doing a great job for the side
Having secured Robert Huth (not sure that he would be too pleased to see Ryan move away) it would make no sense at all to sell Ryan.
Maybe JP will be on twitter again to bring us up to date???
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Post by salopstick on Aug 23, 2012 10:22:50 GMT
I don't think he would want to go to QPR anyway. he does not want to move south |
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Post by stokeyadam on Aug 23, 2012 10:32:03 GMT
wasn't the valuation for him 20 mil not long ago ???
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Post by cliffo23 on Aug 23, 2012 10:33:10 GMT
I think there's only one other English club Shawcross will leave Stoke to join, and that's if/when he goes back to Man Utd. Im fairly certain that old whiskey nose had some buy-back clause in the deal when we took him from Utd permanent deal. QPR, couldn't see the attraction there for ryan really, no better off there than here unless its all about the £££'s (which i dont think is a motivation for ryan). Anyway, he's our captain & that bumps up any transfer fee for him. He's our most valuable asset!!
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Post by huntlypotter on Aug 23, 2012 10:34:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2012 10:34:40 GMT
I do laugh at the £25 million talk.
Stoke would take anything over £10 million. Decent centre halves are plenty and he has no international experience.
I'd rather we kept Huth and Shawcross as they have years in them but dont be silly in thinking it would a) take £25 million to sell him and b) someone would come in even close to that.
Im not saying he's not a good player as he is great for us, that said its much easier replace a decent centre half than a forward, wingers etc...
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Post by stokeyadam on Aug 23, 2012 10:41:28 GMT
I do laugh at the £25 million talk. Stoke would take anything over £10 million. Decent centre halves are plenty and he has no international experience. I'd rather we kept Huth and Shawcross as they have years in them but dont be silly in thinking it would a) take £25 million to sell him and b) someone would come in even close to that. Im not saying he's not a good player as he is great for us, that said its much easier replace a decent centre half than a forward, wingers etc... joe allen has gone for 15 mil, fletcher 15 mil, downing went for 20 mil, phil jones 16 mil, we should be looking for at least 15 mil for ryan |
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Post by jeycov on Aug 23, 2012 11:57:24 GMT
If he goes anywhere it'll be to manure! If we get anybody in it will be mr own goal dunne! Just hope that all this fuss re Ramsay and Wales hasn't upset Ryan too much. He may prefer have the chance to play for England anyway and now think that this can only be via a top club I would be very surprised if he moved anywhere other than Man Utd. www.stoke.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?With the interest in Shawcross growing, this may cause Shawcross` former club Manchester United to finally make a move to recapture their former trainee, as it is reported that the 'Red Devils` have a clause in which they have the first option on Shawcross if he were to leave Stoke, and with the injury crisis at Old Trafford, this could be the ideal time for Sir Alex Ferguson to move for the Chester born defender. |
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Post by thevoid on Aug 23, 2012 13:40:13 GMT
Well I 'want' a hand-job off Jennifer Aniston, and that's not going to happen either ;D
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Post by dozintheseventees on Aug 23, 2012 13:45:43 GMT
Well I 'want' a hand-job off Jennifer Aniston, and that's not going to happen either ;D You're easily pleased.  ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2012 13:47:11 GMT
Would not swap Ryan for Dawson for a gold pig
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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 23, 2012 13:55:25 GMT
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Post by unknown182 on Aug 23, 2012 14:00:31 GMT
i'd sell him for 14m.
play cameron alongside huth.
offer tottenham 14m for defoe.
ooosh
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Post by qualityperfectreal on Aug 23, 2012 14:09:28 GMT
Can't see us (QPR) getting Shawcross tbh, why would Pullis sell him? Have to say the general concensus on QPR boards is we would rather spend £10mill on him than £9mill on Dawson.
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Post by KevinWhimper on Aug 23, 2012 14:09:37 GMT
QPR can fuck right off!
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 23, 2012 22:09:57 GMT
Keith Walesþ@SentinelSportEd
Want to know what the future holds for Ryan Shawcross? See tomorrow's Sentinel ...
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 23, 2012 22:54:04 GMT
Ha ha Ha HaHa ha Ha HaHa ha Ha HaHa ha Ha HaHa ha Ha HaHa ha Ha HaHa ha Ha Ha
QPR are interested in my missus FFS but shes under contract
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Post by stokeramblers on Aug 23, 2012 22:58:46 GMT
Ha ha Ha HaHa ha Ha HaHa ha Ha HaHa ha Ha HaHa ha Ha HaHa ha Ha HaHa ha Ha Ha QPR are interested in my missus FFS but shes under contract Everyone has their price ;D |
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Post by Roy Cropper on Aug 23, 2012 23:12:48 GMT
Ryan wouldn't leave for QPR.
Couldn't blame him for moving to Spurs though if the price was right, might finally get the international chances he deserves.
We don't need the money though, so they'd have to cough up for a 24 year old, experienced, English, Premier League captain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2012 23:47:40 GMT
Ryan wouldn't leave for QPR. Couldn't blame him for moving to Spurs though if the price was right, might finally get the international chances he deserves. We don't need the money though, so they'd have to cough up for a 24 year old, experienced, English, Premier League captain. “@itk_Footy_Agent: Tottenham have made a 17m bid for Ryan Shawcross of Stoke. #THFC #SCFC” |
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Post by potterpalm on Aug 23, 2012 23:56:18 GMT
if top money comes in so be it !!! but ryan is a stokie till otherwise known but really cud 17 mill buy a top player like our ryan ? this is prob unknown territory for us !!!
a player worth that much !!!
i do think hes top drawer but who replaces someone that gives his ALL for us !!
thats a big problem in itself
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Post by This is the year on Aug 24, 2012 0:19:20 GMT
Ryan wouldn't leave for QPR. Couldn't blame him for moving to Spurs though if the price was right, might finally get the international chances he deserves. We don't need the money though, so they'd have to cough up for a 24 year old, experienced, English, Premier League captain. “@itk_Footy_Agent: Tottenham have made a 17m bid for Ryan Shawcross of Stoke. #THFC #SCFC” 17 mill id bite your hand off for that ! then slap down a 9 mill bid for defo then its all gravy Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=197522&page=2#ixzz24PzEsgA6 |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 24, 2012 0:27:00 GMT
QPR???!!! It would be like when Sheron went there and even worse when Biggins went to Barnsley.
You don't mind being dumped because you're wank but you don't expect her to rock up with John Merrick in tow.
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Post by mozzer68 on Aug 24, 2012 8:07:08 GMT
Qpr can fuck right off, cheeky southern bastards.
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Post by metalhead on Aug 24, 2012 8:12:04 GMT
I think if Shawcross goes anywhere, it'll be up. Man Utd, Spurs etc, not down.
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Post by stokeramblers on Aug 24, 2012 8:31:42 GMT
TP: Shawcross will not be sold |
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Post by ladyinred on Aug 24, 2012 9:47:46 GMT
I think, looking at the big picture, that it would make 'BUSINESS' sense to CASH in on Shawcross within the next couple of years.
Selling him at peak value, not at the moment as I think his value will increase slightly.
The club has spent alot of money on players that had/have/will have very little re-sale value.
Soares - Lost £2 Mill
Tonge - Will lose £2 Mill
Davies - Lost £2 Mill
Arismendi - Will lose £3 Mill
Jones - Will lose at least £3 Mill
Crouch? - Paid £10 Mill, will we ever recoup any of that?
Palacios - Paid £6-8 Mill, will we ever recoup any of that?
Collins - Lost £2 Mill
Whitehead - Cost £5 Mill - I'd try to cash in now for approx £2 Mill
Shawcross and Begovic are our most saleable assests, and it would make BUSINESS sense to actually realise some of that value - at the appropriate time.
Defoe/Dawson, are more players that will depreciate in value.
If the club continues to buy 'depreciating' players, then other assets must be sold at peak value - unless the Coates family is happy to keep throwing money at SCFC.
Cameron/Kightly could both be great deals, as there is a chance of getting 2/3 seasons of football out of them, and doubling their value.
In summary - Ryan Shawcross is my favourite Stoke City player - but when the price/time is right, he should be sold.
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