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Post by waitingforwaddo on Mar 1, 2011 16:00:27 GMT
Here. Have a fuckin hankerchief. Nobody else wants it.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Mar 1, 2011 16:04:18 GMT
PULIS WILL NOT LEAVE AND HE WILL NOT GET SACKED. Im sorry but he has the safest job in the league bar none. He has a close relationship with the chairman. the chairman is a businessman getting huge returns on his investment every season stoke are in the premier league. he therefore will not have much care how the results are achieved as long as his business remains in the elite. Im not criticising Coates or Pulis here at all in any way, just looking at it from a business perspective. Peter Coates has made a serious outlay in terms of buying the stadium, new training ground and transfer funds etc. He is entitled to his investment returns. Pulis will never change his style of football, everywhere he has been, he has used the same tactics and style of football. The best it could get for us, is a decent ball player in the midfield and a goalscoring forward. We will never progress from the style of play we use now with Pulis in charge, he has always been direct and always will be, its the way he knows, it is the way that got us in this league and has kept us there since. So if you don't like it realise sooner rather than later it will not change and get on with supporting Stoke City FC rather than Mr Pulis. Can't argue with that, especially the last bit, getting het up about it is completely futile unless you are prepared to go the whole way and instigate a (red card?) protest etc. Cobham Stokie - Allardyce in for Pulis as a top down overhaul? Seriously?
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Post by tazi on Mar 1, 2011 16:05:44 GMT
Yes its time for him to go because afterall he's achieved fuck all 'at our many years of underachieving' football club. Oh, hold on though, maybe it's a little bit of a flat spot we've hit even a hell of a flat spot because it aint as if pace, power and football on the deck hasn't ever being achieved. Sack him now Mr Coates so that the anti's can say they were right.... ;D
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Post by wandonlodge2 on Mar 1, 2011 16:09:06 GMT
I hope you're wrong Northy. Our first success in a quarter of a century and the supporters force out the manager. Why do the morons always have to win? As I've said before, Stoke is like a swimming pool - all the noise comes from the shallow end. To coin a phrase.... ahh diddums Tell you what - you win. I cannot be bothered to argue with people like you anymore. So you, Fromafar, Lord Eff, Waiting, Wolstanton, Dave Eff, Spiderman, Jarhead, etc. have got the better of me, I officially give in. Too many people don't like the manager and this board has become Groundhog Day. It will carry on like this until TP leaves so I may as well bite the bullet and give in. Let's get rid of the manager then and maybe this board can get back to being fun. So what is the plan then? Get a petition on here and outside the ground on matchdays perhaps? Hand it in to Coates? A protest at a match?
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Post by mayf on Mar 1, 2011 16:19:10 GMT
When I read that Pulis is gonna walk away at the end of the season my initial thought is WHAT UTTER BOLLOCKS !
But then,let's think about it a minute. Pulis always does what's best for himself,not the club he's at,the players or the fans but himself,he proved that with what he said after the binary season....deliberately sending out a team in the hope it wouldn't win to force the Icelanders hand was downright dispicable.
We know he is really proud of his record of never being relegated. We can all see he's struggling with his evolution not revolution change of style. He + Coates had a 3 year plan to stay in the Prem
Maybe,just maybe he thinks the time is right to go out on a high,having achieved all he set out to when he returned those 5 years ago,rather than risk his record by playing some football and the danger of possible relegation in the future.
A far fetched theory ? This is Pulis we're talking about,he rarely conforms.It would perhaps explain his not get relegated at all costs approach to recent games.
Nah I still can't see it. My own preference would be for Pulis to see out this season,keep us up and replace him with Moyes in the summer,but I can't see that happenng either
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 1, 2011 16:19:29 GMT
To coin a phrase.... ahh diddums Tell you what - you win. I cannot be bothered to argue with people like you anymore. So you, Fromafar, Lord Eff, Waiting, Wolstanton, Dave Eff, Spiderman, Jarhead, etc. have got the better of me, I officially give in. Too many people don't like the manager and this board has become Groundhog Day. It will carry on like this until TP leaves so I may as well bite the bullet and give in. Let's get rid of the manager then and maybe this board can get back to being fun. So what is the plan then? Get a petition on here and outside the ground on matchdays perhaps? Hand it in to Coates? A protest at a match? Perhaps some red cards.....?
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Post by jarhead on Mar 1, 2011 16:22:45 GMT
Play positive with the strongest team available and players in correct positions is all EVERYBODY wants and to attempt to play football when possible not like last nights shambles of midfielders at full-back crap midfielders on the wing TWO target men ffs and one who clearly does not give a fuck!!! Is it really to much to ask of proffesional people to work out????? Is it???
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Post by hooftastic on Mar 1, 2011 16:25:21 GMT
To coin a phrase.... ahh diddums Tell you what - you win. I cannot be bothered to argue with people like you anymore. So you, Fromafar, Lord Eff, Waiting, Wolstanton, Dave Eff, Spiderman, Jarhead, etc. have got the better of me, I officially give in. Too many people don't like the manager and this board has become Groundhog Day. It will carry on like this until TP leaves so I may as well bite the bullet and give in. Let's get rid of the manager then and maybe this board can get back to being fun. So what is the plan then? Get a petition on here and outside the ground on matchdays perhaps? Hand it in to Coates? A protest at a match? Rule number 1 of the internet - Don't feed the trolls. If you feel like replying but know your points have already been put across then give them the Ackbar treatment, in fact if you prefer someone/thing else from Star Wars then feel free to expand. Ackbar treatment - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _________ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ./ It’s a trap! \ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _,,,--~~~~~~~~--,_ . . . .\ _________/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,-‘ : : : :::: :::: :: : : : : :º ‘-, . . \/. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .,-‘ :: : : :::: :::: :::: :::: : : : o : ‘-, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,-‘ :: ::: :: : : :: :::: :::: :: : : : : : O ‘-, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .,-‘ : :: :: :: :: :: : : : : : , : : :º :::: :::: ::’; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .,-‘ / / : :: :: :: :: : : :::: :::-, ;; ;; ;; ;; ;; ;; ;\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . /,-‘,’ :: : : : : : : : : :: :: :: : ‘-, ;; ;; ;; ;; ;; ;;| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . /,’,-‘ :: :: :: :: :: :: :: : ::_,-~~,_’-, ;; ;; ;; ;; | . . . . . . . . . . . . _/ :,’ :/ :: :: :: : : :: :: _,-‘/ : ,-‘;’-‘’’’’~-, ;; ;; ;;,’ . . . . . . . . . . . ,-‘ / : : : : : : ,-‘’’ : : :,--‘’ | /,-‘-‘--‘’’__,’’’ \ ;; ;,-‘ . . . . . . . . . . . \ :/,, : : : _,-‘ --,,_ : : \ :\ ||/ /,-‘-‘x### ::\ \ ;;/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \/ /---‘’’’ : \ #\ : :\ : : \ :\ \| | : (O##º : :/ /-‘’ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . /,’____ : :\ ‘-#\ : \, : :\ :\ \ \ : ‘-,___,-‘,-`-,, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ‘ ) : : : :’’’’--,,--,,,,,,¯ \ \ :: ::--,,_’’-,,’’’¯ :’- :’-, . . . . . . . . . . . . . .) : : : : : : ,, : ‘’’’~~~~’ \ :: :: :: :’’’’’¯ :: ,-‘ :,/\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\,/ /|\\| | :/ / : : : : : : : ,’-, :: :: :: :: ::,--‘’ :,-‘ \ \ . . . . . . . . . . . . .\\’|\\ \|/ ‘/ / :: :_--,, : , | )’; :: :: :: :,-‘’ : ,-‘ : : :\ \, . . . . . . . . . . ./¯ \ |\ : |/\ :: ::----, :\/ / :: :: ,-‘’ : :,-‘ : : : : : : ‘’-,,_ . . . . . . ..| : : :/ ‘’-(, :: :: :: ‘’’’’~,,,,,’’ :: ,-‘’ : :,-‘ : : : : : : : : :,-‘’’\\ . . . . . ,-‘ : : : | : : ‘’) : : :¯’’’’~-,: : ,--‘’’ : :,-‘’ : : : : : : : : : ,-‘ :¯’’’’’-,_ . ./ : : : : :’-, :: | :: :: :: _,,-‘’’’¯ : ,--‘’ : : : : : : : : : : : / : : : : : : :’’-, / : : : : : -, :¯’’’’’’’’’’’¯ : : _,,-~’’ : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :¯’’~~~~~~’’’ : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : | : : : : : : : : :
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Post by wandonlodge2 on Mar 1, 2011 16:26:16 GMT
Tell you what - you win. I cannot be bothered to argue with people like you anymore. So you, Fromafar, Lord Eff, Waiting, Wolstanton, Dave Eff, Spiderman, Jarhead, etc. have got the better of me, I officially give in. Too many people don't like the manager and this board has become Groundhog Day. It will carry on like this until TP leaves so I may as well bite the bullet and give in. Let's get rid of the manager then and maybe this board can get back to being fun. So what is the plan then? Get a petition on here and outside the ground on matchdays perhaps? Hand it in to Coates? A protest at a match? Perhaps some red cards.....? Whatever. Maybe if you started a petition on here it would be a good start. It would give an idea of support and maybe help to organise a database of people who wish to participate in any protests. Although I do not wish to take an active part I will sign a petition if it helps bring about an end to the division in our support.
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Post by tazi on Mar 1, 2011 16:38:00 GMT
Perhaps some red cards.....? Whatever. Maybe if you started a petition on here it would be a good start. It would give an idea of support and maybe help to organise a database of people who wish to participate in any protests. Although I do not wish to take an active part I will sign a petition if it helps bring about an end to the division in our support. Dont sign anything mate.
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Post by MrDBrent on Mar 1, 2011 16:38:47 GMT
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Mar 1, 2011 16:43:51 GMT
I incline to agree with what sarge has said here, it's something i have been thinking myself. His recent interviews about the support etc. He's had enough and this is why we have reverted back to the good old pulisball mark 1, it's his way of sticking the v's up at people who sing fuller's name when he's on the bench and tuncay before that, the booing, the mocking of jones. He sees it as disrespect and stubbornly has backed into his own little corner and has his own personal seige mentality going on. The crowd never sing his name, he's probably fully aware that people are bored shitless of the football but just doesn't give two shits. It's where we go after TP that will define our future, he's laid the foundations and with coates put the club on an amazingly sound footing and that is something we would be foolish to forget. It's sink or swim time after TP's reign because we won't sink while he's here that's for sure but the blueprint will always be the same, the pairing of carew and jones clarifies that. Exactly, out fickle fans have driven him to this IMO. We were evolving, playing some good stuff, then around about December, everyone started turning on him again. People would rather have had Tuncay starting than Jones, even though at the start of the season, Jones was a reliable goal scorer. The bloke has never been able to win and I don't blame if he leaves. I personally think it's bad news for the club. If he does go in the summer, we won't get Martin O'Niell etc. The biggest name we'd get is Allardyce, and his brand of football is exactly the same as Pulis'. I think the day Pulis goes will be a sad day for this football club, he's giving a generation of fans the best few years we may ever experience with Stoke, and yet a few shit performances and everyone wants him out.
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Post by andystokie321111 on Mar 1, 2011 16:49:17 GMT
yeah thats get rid of the manager who has against all odds kept us up for the past near 3 years and took us up with a small budject of cash load of shite this thread is
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Post by elystokie on Mar 1, 2011 16:51:28 GMT
I incline to agree with what sarge has said here, it's something i have been thinking myself. His recent interviews about the support etc. He's had enough and this is why we have reverted back to the good old pulisball mark 1, it's his way of sticking the v's up at people who sing fuller's name when he's on the bench and tuncay before that, the booing, the mocking of jones. He sees it as disrespect and stubbornly has backed into his own little corner and has his own personal seige mentality going on. The crowd never sing his name, he's probably fully aware that people are bored shitless of the football but just doesn't give two shits. It's where we go after TP that will define our future, he's laid the foundations and with coates put the club on an amazingly sound footing and that is something we would be foolish to forget. It's sink or swim time after TP's reign because we won't sink while he's here that's for sure but the blueprint will always be the same, the pairing of carew and jones clarifies that. I hope you're wrong Northy. Our first success in a quarter of a century and the supporters force out the manager. Why do the morons always have to win? As I've said before, Stoke is like a swimming pool - all the noise comes from the shallow end. If the supporters have the power to force him out how come they didn't have the power to prevent his return when around 85% opposed his appointment? Why are people 'morons' for having a different viewpoint to yourself?
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Post by tazi on Mar 1, 2011 16:57:13 GMT
I hope you're wrong Northy. Our first success in a quarter of a century and the supporters force out the manager. Why do the morons always have to win? As I've said before, Stoke is like a swimming pool - all the noise comes from the shallow end. If the supporters have the power to force him out how come they didn't have the power to prevent his return when around 85% opposed his appointment? Why are people 'morons' for having a different viewpoint to yourself? 85% of who.................The oatie?....... Glad i was one of the fifteenpercentrighters....... ;D
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Mar 1, 2011 16:58:08 GMT
Perhaps some red cards.....? Whatever. Maybe if you started a petition on here it would be a good start. It would give an idea of support and maybe help to organise a database of people who wish to participate in any protests. Although I do not wish to take an active part I will sign a petition if it helps bring about an end to the division in our support. It won't stop when Pulis leaves though will it, how long did this board spend constantly in the throes of the pros and cons of Pulis vs Boskamp? No doubt the next manager will be held up to some idealised image of pulis by some and never given the time to make the team his, whilst others will laud the sexy football of the new guy as some sort of Brazil 1970esque stuff no matter how direct, both factions will drown out anyone with objective opinions and on it will go for years until no-one can be arsed anymore.
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Post by mayf on Mar 1, 2011 17:06:13 GMT
He would have to take us down to League 1 before the rimmers would accept any flaws in Pulis
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Post by elystokie on Mar 1, 2011 17:06:19 GMT
If the supporters have the power to force him out how come they didn't have the power to prevent his return when around 85% opposed his appointment? Why are people 'morons' for having a different viewpoint to yourself? 85% of who.................The oatie?....... Glad i was one of the fifteenpercentrighters....... ;D Thought they did a poll in the Sentinel at the time? Where the poll was is, to me, irrelevant. I'm 'naive' enough to think that, given the number of people that frequent this board, it's fairly representative of the support in general. Of course, those who's viewpoint this doesn't suit would argue strongly against that The 85% could also have been 'right' we'll never know if another manager could have achieved the same result or not given the backing available at the time will we?
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Post by tazi on Mar 1, 2011 17:08:48 GMT
85% of who.................The oatie?....... Glad i was one of the fifteenpercentrighters....... ;D Thought they did a poll in the Sentinel at the time? Where the poll was is, to me, irrelevant. I'm 'naive' enough to think that, given the number of people that frequent this board, it's fairly representative of the support in general. Of course, those who's viewpoint this doesn't suit would argue strongly against that The 85% could also have been 'right' we'll never know if another manager could have achieved the same result or not given the backing available at the time will we? indeed.....
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Post by wandonlodge2 on Mar 1, 2011 17:13:08 GMT
85% of who.................The oatie?....... Glad i was one of the fifteenpercentrighters....... ;D Thought they did a poll in the Sentinel at the time? Where the poll was is, to me, irrelevant. I'm 'naive' enough to think that, given the number of people that frequent this board, it's fairly representative of the support in general. Of course, those who's viewpoint this doesn't suit would argue strongly against that The 85% could also have been 'right' we'll never know if another manager could have achieved the same result or not given the backing available at the time will we? Well it's time to resolve this mess now. The current unrest is not good for anyone - players, manager, supporters, the club as a whole or for our public image. To be constantly fighting amongst ourselves about the same thing is just ridiculous.
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Post by stevebigsmokestoke on Mar 1, 2011 17:14:13 GMT
TOOK US AS FAR AS HE CAN WELL DONE TONY TIME TO GO BUD
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Post by Davef on Mar 1, 2011 17:16:05 GMT
To coin a phrase.... ahh diddums Tell you what - you win. I cannot be bothered to argue with people like you anymore. So you, Fromafar, Lord Eff, Waiting, Wolstanton, Dave Eff, Spiderman, Jarhead, etc. have got the better of me, I officially give in. Too many people don't like the manager and this board has become Groundhog Day. It will carry on like this until TP leaves so I may as well bite the bullet and give in. Let's get rid of the manager then and maybe this board can get back to being fun. So what is the plan then? Get a petition on here and outside the ground on matchdays perhaps? Hand it in to Coates? A protest at a match? What are you naming me for? Oh, I see, sometimes our manager pisses me off with his negativity and I'm not particularly happy with the standard of some of our football at the moment and that automatically means I want him sacked does it? I'll freely admit that I wasn't in the least bit bothered when the Icelanders sacked him, and I openly admit that I didn't want him back, but when I have ever said that I want Tony Pulis sacked? Come on, when?
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Post by Trubritt on Mar 1, 2011 17:25:55 GMT
I incline to agree with what sarge has said here, it's something i have been thinking myself. His recent interviews about the support etc. He's had enough and this is why we have reverted back to the good old pulisball mark 1, it's his way of sticking the v's up at people who sing fuller's name when he's on the bench and tuncay before that, the booing, the mocking of jones. He sees it as disrespect and stubbornly has backed into his own little corner and has his own personal seige mentality going on. The crowd never sing his name, he's probably fully aware that people are bored shitless of the football but just doesn't give two shits. It's where we go after TP that will define our future, he's laid the foundations and with coates put the club on an amazingly sound footing and that is something we would be foolish to forget. It's sink or swim time after TP's reign because we won't sink while he's here that's for sure but the blueprint will always be the same, the pairing of carew and jones clarifies that. Exactly, out fickle fans have driven him to this IMO. We were evolving, playing some good stuff, then around about December, everyone started turning on him again. People would rather have had Tuncay starting than Jones, even though at the start of the season, Jones was a reliable goal scorer. The bloke has never been able to win and I don't blame if he leaves. I personally think it's bad news for the club. If he does go in the summer, we won't get Martin O'Niell etc. The biggest name we'd get is Allardyce, and his brand of football is exactly the same as Pulis'. I think the day Pulis goes will be a sad day for this football club, he's giving a generation of fans the best few years we may ever experience with Stoke, and yet a few shit performances and everyone wants him out. ditto
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Post by elystokie on Mar 1, 2011 17:32:06 GMT
Thought they did a poll in the Sentinel at the time? Where the poll was is, to me, irrelevant. I'm 'naive' enough to think that, given the number of people that frequent this board, it's fairly representative of the support in general. Of course, those who's viewpoint this doesn't suit would argue strongly against that The 85% could also have been 'right' we'll never know if another manager could have achieved the same result or not given the backing available at the time will we? Well it's time to resolve this mess now. The current unrest is not good for anyone - players, manager, supporters, the club as a whole or for our public image. To be constantly fighting amongst ourselves about the same thing is just ridiculous. Only 2 people on the planet have the capacity to resolve the situation. TP by evolving his methods and using the resources available to him effectively enough to quell the discontent. PC by employing someone else to use said resources. Supporters can do fuck all about it even if they wanted to. There's been a divide on here since TP was appointed the first time and it will probably continue until he leaves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 17:32:48 GMT
To coin a phrase.... ahh diddums Tell you what - you win. I cannot be bothered to argue with people like you anymore. So you, Fromafar, Lord Eff, Waiting, Wolstanton, Dave Eff, Spiderman, Jarhead, etc. have got the better of me, I officially give in. Too many people don't like the manager and this board has become Groundhog Day. It will carry on like this until TP leaves so I may as well bite the bullet and give in. Let's get rid of the manager then and maybe this board can get back to being fun. So what is the plan then? Get a petition on here and outside the ground on matchdays perhaps? Hand it in to Coates? A protest at a match? You know what, wandon, I'm inclined to agree with you. I'm turning against Pulis from now on, may even start booing him in the ground to try and hasten his exit. I want the PHWs to get their way so that, if nothing else, we don't have to come across their endless criticism and depressing negativity on here. What happens to the club is irrelevant, at least TP will be gone. Fuck off Tony, and hurry up about it.
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Post by roby55 on Mar 1, 2011 19:12:48 GMT
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 1, 2011 19:16:07 GMT
yes it is
let him go now Sir Pete
with grateful thanks, dignity and a big fat cheque.
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Post by MrMagic on Mar 1, 2011 19:28:42 GMT
Not this tired old rubbish for gods sake...... Not every club who changes their manager automatically gets relegated to League One. If anyone either pro or anti or sitting on the fence truely beleives that only one person on the face of planet earth is capable of keeping Stoke in the Premier League, then they are puddled. Rather than churning out this tired old dross every time anyone questions the actions of Tony, why don't we try to construct a decent debate with both opionions or facts? I'd love someone to highlight the positives of our change in approach to games over the past few weeks.
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Post by stokemark on Mar 1, 2011 19:37:10 GMT
I incline to agree with what sarge has said here, it's something i have been thinking myself. His recent interviews about the support etc. He's had enough and this is why we have reverted back to the good old pulisball mark 1, it's his way of sticking the v's up at people who sing fuller's name when he's on the bench and tuncay before that, the booing, the mocking of jones. He sees it as disrespect and stubbornly has backed into his own little corner and has his own personal seige mentality going on. The crowd never sing his name, he's probably fully aware that people are bored shitless of the football but just doesn't give two shits. It's where we go after TP that will define our future, he's laid the foundations and with coates put the club on an amazingly sound footing and that is something we would be foolish to forget. It's sink or swim time after TP's reign because we won't sink while he's here that's for sure but the blueprint will always be the same, the pairing of carew and jones clarifies that. Exactly, out fickle fans have driven him to this IMO. We were evolving, playing some good stuff, then around about December, everyone started turning on him again. People would rather have had Tuncay starting than Jones, even though at the start of the season, Jones was a reliable goal scorer. The bloke has never been able to win and I don't blame if he leaves. I personally think it's bad news for the club. If he does go in the summer, we won't get Martin O'Niell etc. The biggest name we'd get is Allardyce, and his brand of football is exactly the same as Pulis'. I think the day Pulis goes will be a sad day for this football club, he's giving a generation of fans the best few years we may ever experience with Stoke, and yet a few shit performances and everyone wants him out. There may well be some truth in Root's original email but I think the 'spat' is with Coates not releasing funds. Im sorry but Cupids comments are re-writing history. 'Around December everyone started turning on him' That is UTTER BOLLOCKS Things started to deteriorate when the Fuller news started to leak. We then had the Ba fiasco and the closing of the transfer window with the loss of one of our better players who provided us with options and the FAILURE TO STRENGTHEN THE SQUAD. The Liverpool away game became TP's 'Waterloo' and really it has been a rollercoaster since then with the only real 'ups' being in the FA Cup. IF we were to get relegated and IF Pulis was to go then the blame can only be laid at his door - Of course we are now starting to get the pathetic 'Charlton' and 'its the supporters fault' comments from those that simply cant see beyond the end of their noses. I remain a Tony Pulis fan but its time that some on here opened their eyes to his limitations and weakness's
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 19:39:02 GMT
I incline to agree with what sarge has said here, it's something i have been thinking myself. His recent interviews about the support etc. He's had enough and this is why we have reverted back to the good old pulisball mark 1, it's his way of sticking the v's up at people who sing fuller's name when he's on the bench and tuncay before that, the booing, the mocking of jones. He sees it as disrespect and stubbornly has backed into his own little corner and has his own personal seige mentality going on. The crowd never sing his name, he's probably fully aware that people are bored shitless of the football but just doesn't give two shits. It's where we go after TP that will define our future, he's laid the foundations and with coates put the club on an amazingly sound footing and that is something we would be foolish to forget. It's sink or swim time after TP's reign because we won't sink while he's here that's for sure but the blueprint will always be the same, the pairing of carew and jones clarifies that. Exactly, out fickle fans have driven him to this IMO. We were evolving, playing some good stuff, then around about December, everyone started turning on him again. People would rather have had Tuncay starting than Jones, even though at the start of the season, Jones was a reliable goal scorer. The bloke has never been able to win and I don't blame if he leaves. I personally think it's bad news for the club. If he does go in the summer, we won't get Martin O'Niell etc. The biggest name we'd get is Allardyce, and his brand of football is exactly the same as Pulis'. I think the day Pulis goes will be a sad day for this football club, he's giving a generation of fans the best few years we may ever experience with Stoke, and yet a few shit performances and everyone wants him out. People are pissed off BECAUSE he went back to his uber-negativity, he didn't do it as a response to that. I don't want Pulis out by the way. I just want him to go back to playing less negatively and treating games as winnable.
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